Despair incarnon

[White_Matter]

Is it bugged? I just shoot once and the incarnon ends. Spends all mag. I picked the "multishot draws from ammo" option. Is it how it is supposed to operate?

Also I run out of ammo quite fast.

[schilds]

How multishot normally works: each pull of the trigger consumes one ammo from your magazine which is magically multiplied into multiple bullets. 

How that perk makes multishot work: each trigger pull consumes one ammo from your magazine, and the extra bullets are not created from nothing, they are taken from your total ammo pool.

How that works in incarnon form: your ammo pool and magazine are one and the same thing, aka "charges", so each pull of the trigger will consume as many charges as your modded multishot.

 

All that said, the despair incarnon has 20 charges, so it shouldn't be instant unless you have somehow modded on 20x multishot. I've tested it with the +30% ms from the perk and +230% from Galv. Diff. it consumes 4 ammo/charges each time.

[White_Matter]

On 2023-06-05 at 5:27 PM, schilds said:

How multishot normally works: each pull of the trigger consumes one ammo from your magazine which is magically multiplied into multiple bullets. 

How that perk makes multishot work: each trigger pull consumes one ammo from your magazine, and the extra bullets are not created from nothing, they are taken from your total ammo pool.

How that works in incarnon form: your ammo pool and magazine are one and the same thing, aka "charges", so each pull of the trigger will consume as many charges as your modded multishot.

 

All that said, the despair incarnon has 20 charges, so it shouldn't be instant unless you have somehow modded on 20x multishot. I've tested it with the +30% ms from the perk and +230% from Galv. Diff. it consumes 4 ammo/charges each time.

So it is a counterproductive perk. Pretty sure that's not how it is supposed to be like. 

As for incarnon form, mine had 10 ammo and yes on certain occasions I consumed all of them at once with one press of a button(I also have multishot riven).

I reset the perks and I got the other one, now I have 20 ammo, each shot consumes 1 ammo from the mag and is much much better. that 30% additional multshot def ain't worth it.

Edited June 7 by White_Matter

[SpicyDinosaur]

5 minutes ago, White_Matter said:

So it is a counterproductive perk. Pretty sure that's not how it is supposed to be like. 

As for incarnon form, mine had 10 ammo and yes on certain occasions I consumed all of them at once with one press of a button(I also have multishot riven).

I reset the perks and I got the other one, now I have 20 ammo, each shot consumes 1 ammo from the mag and is much much better. that 30% additional multshot def ain't worth it.

All the weapons I've tried this perk with do it the same way so I believe it is working as intended. It's just a garbage perk. I would just pick other things on any weapon you get that gives that as an option because it is absolutely terrible.

[TheRoyalBrook]

3 hours ago, SpicyDinosaur said:

All the weapons I've tried this perk with do it the same way so I believe it is working as intended. It's just a garbage perk. I would just pick other things on any weapon you get that gives that as an option because it is absolutely terrible.

it depends on the weapon and build really. My braton vandal gets a pretty decent benefit from it since staying in incarnon form isn't always needed.  My incarnon mode is an ammo refiller. For some weapons though I feel it hurts them and it probably does less so if its not your primary weapon set since the MS damage bonuses are usually pretty big. Like miter hits like a truck with it... but you get like 3-4 shots

[(XBOX)TehChubbyDugan]

It's funny how all the "adds multishot but takes it from your ammo" work on incarnon forms, but none of the ammo efficiency perks work on incarnon forms.