Circuit rewards

[Merrcenary]

DE please remove those crossed items out and replace it with 10x pathos clamp
i don't really need it in SP mode

[Qriist]

See, now this is silly. Those are still useful items in the end game.

[(PSN)Gumby6506]

Yeah they'll get right on it just for you bud... 

[Mr.Holyroller]

You had me until you crossed out Rivens, Steel essence, and adapters

[_Anise_]

31 minutes ago, Mr.Holyroller said:

Rivens

sitting on 31 veiled rivens, 28 unvailed and half a million kuva, the riven system is overrated without really trying to engage with this system.

31 minutes ago, Mr.Holyroller said:

Steel essence

are easy enough to get and now way less useful since the relic packs are capped

I will give you adapters but I would also love the circuit to be capped at 5 tiers !

Edited June 5 by _Anise_

[Mr.Holyroller]

5 minutes ago, _Anise_ said:

sitting on 31 veiled rivens, 28 unvailed and half a million kuva, the riven system is overrated without really trying to engage with this system.

are easy enough to get and now way less useful since the relic packs are capped

I will give you adapters but I would also love the circuit to be capped at 5 tiers !

Not caring or wanting to engage with rivens at all is completely on you and a personal choice.
I would be okay if they removed the steel essence reward if each round gave like 1 steel essence and them maybe 2 essence per after like 5+ stages or something

[_Anise_]

for me I have a few nice rivens for weapons I really like otherwise the shards drop like candy now, there are dailies, and a few weeklies that reward them, though I can see the appeal that some people may want to chase these god roll rivens. actually still want to get my hands on sentinel rivens but sadly they are behind simaris which while easy is a bit of a bore to grind!

[Lord_Drod]

I have like 140 identified rivens, and another 100 unidentified.  Rivens are so easy to stockpile even if you use them from Iron wake - I've actually stopped buying them.  I would definitely rather have an arcane than a riven.  I'm not sure what 1 and 3 are, some duviri resources I think.  Exilus adapters are easy to craft.  I usually just buy the bps from my syndicates.  So I'd swap all those for arcanes, except the essence. 

They'll never put pathos clamps in the table because then people wouldn't farm the boss.

Edited June 5 by Lord_Drod

[jibbahjabbah]

6 minutes ago, Lord_Drod said:

I have like 140 identified rivens, and another 100 unidentified. 

Just out of curiosity, what percentage of the player base do you think can relate to this?

[_Anise_]

4 minutes ago, jibbahjabbah said:

Just out of curiosity, what percentage of the player base do you think can relate to this?

eventually anyone who sticks with warframe for the long run, I have almost 60 and I don't even try to get them anymore and thats after dissolving them like they were nothing so I could keep running sorties, id probably have closer to a hundred by now!

Edited June 5 by _Anise_

[jibbahjabbah]

 

1 minute ago, _Anise_ said:

eventually anyone who sticks with warframe for the long run, I have almost 60 and I don't even try to get them anymore and thats after dissolving them like they were nothing so I could keep running sorties, id probably have closer to a hundred by now!

You mean like a player who's been playing the game for a decade with a couple thousand hours in the game? Yeah, that's me and I got about fifteen. Reality is not what you think it is. 

[_Anise_]

3 minutes ago, jibbahjabbah said:

that's me and I got about fifteen

2 things, you can't ever have done sorties at all? or you are the unluckiest person on the planet!

also you can't have been handing in your weekly shards at iron wake, eximus enemies have been dropping the shards a while!

or you been doing all of that and selling them?

[Tiltskillet]

1 hour ago, _Anise_ said:

1 hour ago, Mr.Holyroller said:

Steel essence

are easy enough to get and now way less useful since the relic packs are capped

I like that there is essence in the rewards, since I'm spending less time in SP outside of Circuit.

[Lord_Drod]

29 minutes ago, jibbahjabbah said:

Just out of curiosity, what percentage of the player base do you think can relate to this?

Probably a high % of the group of players the SP circuit was designed for.  I don't even do sorties and haven't for years, but they can still drop from archons also.  I bought most of my rivens unrolled for cheap.

You can also get them from the essence store and I never purchase those either.

[jibbahjabbah]

1 minute ago, _Anise_ said:

2 things, you can't ever have done sorties at all? or you are the unluckiest person on the planet!

also you can't have been handing in your weekly shards at iron wake, eximus enemies have been dropping the shards a while!

or you been doing all of that and selling them?

None of the above. The whole riven system massive waste of time since the majority of time that I've invested into it has yielded me nothing of value. It's just not worth putting extra effort in.. at least for a filthy casual such as myself.

[jibbahjabbah]

5 minutes ago, Lord_Drod said:

Probably a high % of the group of players the SP circuit was designed for.  I don't even do sorties and haven't for years, but they can still drop from archons also.  I bought most of my rivens unrolled for cheap.

You can also get them from the essence store and I never purchase those either.

So you think it's the sweatiest of tryhards that are populating the SP circuits, not the filthiest of casuals wanting access to gear that will actually make an improvement to their power level?

Edited June 5 by jibbahjabbah

[Lord_Drod]

22 minutes ago, jibbahjabbah said:

So you think it's the sweatiest of tryhards that are populating the SP circuits, not the filthiest of casuals wanting access to gear that will actually make an improvement to their power level?

Yes?  Do casuals have that consistent dedicated time to give each week?

Judging by your comments, you'd group me in the former, but I won't do that mode because of the time requirement each week.  I wouldn't direct any casual player to that place.

If you only have 15 rivens, I can take a pretty good guess at your arsenal and without getting carried by some buddies I think it would take you like 10 hrs a week and not be very fun.  

Edited June 5 by Lord_Drod

[jibbahjabbah]

1 minute ago, Lord_Drod said:

Do casuals have that consistent dedicated time to give each week?

I don't understand why you're asking this question or why you think I, or anyone except for the individual themselves, could answer it. 

Ignoring that, this is all logic based reasoning, none of it is actually grounded in reality. As someone who has put time into running the SP circuit, I can say from actual experience that the majority of people I end up playing with are worse off than me when it comes to loadout quality and it takes me about three or four rolls before I get a loadout that's good enough to go further than one or two missions. So, yeah, I'm pretty sure the majority of people playing on the SP circuit aren't the kinds of people to be sitting on stockpiles of hundreds of riven mods.

[_Anise_]

50 minutes ago, jibbahjabbah said:

None of the above. The whole riven system massive waste of time

I agree, why waste time trying to make a bad gun good when you could just idk use a good gun ?

also I guess I misunderstood I thought you were arguing for having rivens as part of the circuit rewards ?

[Lord_Drod]

35 minutes ago, jibbahjabbah said:

I don't understand why you're asking this question or why you think I, or anyone except for the individual themselves, could answer it. 

Isn't it obvious?  What separates a casual from a hardcore player?  How much time they can put in.  You're basically saying I'm a tryhard, yet ironically grinding a mode that I don't think is worth my time.  A casual players time is more valuable to them so a time gated mode is harder for them to complete in general.

Edited June 5 by Lord_Drod

[jibbahjabbah]

35 minutes ago, _Anise_ said:

I agree, why waste time trying to make a bad gun good when you could just idk use a good gun ?

also I guess I misunderstood I thought you were arguing for having rivens as part of the circuit rewards ?

Lord no. I think it's a terrible reward from something that is such a time sync. It's just the argument "I've don't want it so you shouldn't have it" is just the weakest of arguments. So weak that I don't even feel comfortable calling it an argument. Yet, despite that, it seems to main the argument anyone has for anything. The intricate narratives people will craft to convince themselves and everyone else that reality is what they want it to be, it makes people delusional, incapable of understanding reality for what it is.  The consequence of this is neglect to which the consequence is unnecessary suffering. It's a terrible habit people have developed that creates never-ending cycles of misery and I would give anything to break it.  

At the end of the day there is no right or wrong way to play this game. Everyone has different reasons for wanting/enjoying different things. Any statements that would suggest otherwise are delusions of grandeur which only serves to devalue everything that isn't what those who suffer them want. 

Edited June 5 by jibbahjabbah

[jibbahjabbah]

34 minutes ago, Lord_Drod said:

ou're basically saying I'm a tryhard, yet ironically grinding a mode that I don't think is worth my time. 

Yeah, and that's what makes you a tryhard. Needing to min/max everything. Bro, you're playing a video game. It's all a waste of time. There is no more or less here, it's all just a waste of time. The idea that you can waste your time in a way that is less of a waste of time is just a silly justification you convince yourself of to make you feel as if you're better than others. 

[Lord_Drod]

38 minutes ago, jibbahjabbah said:

Yeah, and that's what makes you a tryhard. Needing to min/max everything. Bro, you're playing a video game. It's all a waste of time. There is no more or less here, it's all just a waste of time. The idea that you can waste your time in a way that is less of a waste of time is just a silly justification you convince yourself of to make you feel as if you're better than others. 

What is?  Because I have a bunch of rivens?  You're the one judging me and making assumptions based on how I play.  Then you asked me who I think is playing the SP Circuit more, and why would it be casuals, when its the most brutal mode they have introduced?  It isn't designed for casuals.  There's countless of threads of casuals complaining about it.  I'm not telling you how to play.  I'm saying, I personally wouldn't drag a casual there because I don't enjoy it for the same reasons many casuals have given.  You asked what I thought. I answered.  Then you're judging me and calling me names for how I play the game.  I could just as easily do the same to you for neglecting rivens.  There's nothing wrong with ignoring them, but they are easy to acquire and especially if you have been playing for as long as you claim.  Most of my rivens I have bought and unveiled are still unrolled just sitting there collecting dust. 

I'm not sitting here playing 8 hrs a day and ignoring that mode out of spite.  I'm not playing that mode, because I don't have time to complete it each week now and I don't believe it's worthwhile.  Apparently YOU do.  That's great!  There is nothing wrong with that.  At this stage in your life, you have more time to dedicate to the game than I do on a weekly basis, yet you are looking down at me based on my game time and number of rivens owned.   

Edited June 5 by Lord_Drod
typo

[jibbahjabbah]

1 minute ago, Lord_Drod said:

What is?  Because I have a bunch of rivens?  You're the one judging me and making assumptions based on how I play.  Then you asked me who I think is playing the SP Circuit more, and why would it be casuals, when its the most brutal mode they have introduced?  It isn't for designed casuals.  There's countless of threads of casuals complaining about it.  I'm not telling you how to play.  I'm saying, I personally wouldn't drag a casual there because I don't enjoy it for the same reasons many casuals have given.  You asked what I thought. I answered.  Then you're judging me and calling me names for how I play the game.  I could just as easily do the same to you for neglecting rivens.  There's nothing wrong with ignoring them, but they are easy to acquire and especially if you have been playing for as long as you claim.  Most of my rivens I have bought and unveiled are still unrolled just sitting there collecting dust. 

I'm not sitting here playing 8 hrs a day and ignoring that mode out of spite.  I'm not playing that mode, because I don't have time to complete it each week now and I don't believe it's worthwhile.  Apparently YOU do.  That's great!  There is nothing wrong with that.  At this stage in your life, you have more time to dedicate to the game than I do on a weekly basis, yet you are looking down at me based on my game time and number of rivens owned.   

Nice. Good job. You said some very convincing things here that I will take into consideration. Thank you and good day.

[(PSN)haphazardlynamed]

I'd suggest

that the 5000Credits and 1000Endo rewards for the tier 11+ rewards should be replaced with Pathos Clamps instead,

 

5000credits is Not worth the time of a 1hour run to rank a tier.