Mention Steel Path Level Cap DE?

[CriminallyInsaniac]

Hey,

First time someone reached level cap on steel path in an archwing mission.

Will DE mention it somehow?

It happened on stream on twitch on the channel of MiauDarinus and a VOD of that is still there if someone wanna see it.

PC SCREENSHOT

 

PLAYSTATION SCREENSHOT (one of them was on playstation and should be mentioned too!)

Edited September 18 by CriminallyInsaniac
Added screenshot and description of them

[(PSN)EntityPendragon]

1 minute ago, CriminallyInsaniac said:

Will DE mention it somehow?

Don't think it matters honestly

[CriminallyInsaniac]

vor 1 Minute schrieb (PSN)EntityPendragon:

Don't think it matters honestly

That would be honestly sad. Things that has been for the first time should be mentioned like in other games

[(XBOX)C11H22O11]

Don't see why they would mention it, at most an "impressive". 

[(PSN)EntityPendragon]

23 minutes ago, CriminallyInsaniac said:

That would be honestly sad. Things that has been for the first time should be mentioned like in other games

Archwing is not a very cherished mode. Not many would really care that much. I also highly doubt that this is the first time archwing levelcap has happened cause there is always that madlad that wants to do the impossible. In fact I am pretty sure world's first happened last year.

Understand the sentiment though. It is just not a very liked mode. Don't think current DE likes it either.

[LittleLeoniePrime]

what they should mention instead is your platinum count... what the actual f

[(PSN)EntityPendragon]

27 minutes ago, LittleLeoniePrime said:

what they should mention instead is your platinum count... what the actual f

I second this, god damn

[CosoMalvadoNG]

Those things only mattered in the first year of the game. The thing is that veterans are no longer competing to see who lasts the longest in any mission nowadays. 
The reasons are:

• There are no prizes for it.
• The bug exploiters.

Edited September 18 by CosoMalvadoNG
misspellings, Add text

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1 hour ago, CriminallyInsaniac said:

Things that has been for the first time should be mentioned like in other games

Every single day, a player does something that nobody else in Warframe has ever done.  A fashion frame that nobody else has ever done before, a mod setup that nobody else has done before, a dojo art piece that nobody else has ever done before, playing a specific mission with a specific loadout that nobody else has ever done before.

Which is to say, simply being the first time someone has done something can't be the only criteria, otherwise the devs would never be able to catch their breaths due to their constant need to recognize.  To be worthy of recognition, an act needs to somehow distinguish itself as meaningful beyond the simple fact that it was the first time it was done.  Personally, I don't see that for this.

Which isn't to say that the player who did this can't feel proud that they set a personal goal for themselves and completed it, because that's great; it's just the reality that it won't necessarily matter to anyone else.

[GPrime96]

3 hours ago, CriminallyInsaniac said:

Hey,

First time someone reached level cap on steel path in an archwing mission.

Will DE mention it somehow?

It happened on stream on twitch on the channel of MiauDarinus and a VOD of that is still there if someone wanna see it.

I don’t think they look at the leaderboards. I’ve been to level cap multiple times in SP Circuit and once in SP Disruption and i doubt that would get seen anytime soon.

[CriminallyInsaniac]

vor 6 Stunden schrieb (PSN)EntityPendragon:

Archwing is not a very cherished mode. Not many would really care that much. I also highly doubt that this is the first time archwing levelcap has happened cause there is always that madlad that wants to do the impossible. In fact I am pretty sure world's first happened last year.

Understand the sentiment though. It is just not a very liked mode. Don't think current DE likes it either.

Especially because it is not the cherished mode.

I have never seen anyone master this, there are no videos or leaderboard screenshots. And according to my research, no one has been there before.

[CriminallyInsaniac]

vor 6 Stunden schrieb CosoMalvadoNG:

Those things only mattered in the first year of the game. The thing is that veterans are no longer competing to see who lasts the longest in any mission nowadays. 
The reasons are:

• There are no prizes for it.
• The bug exploiters.

For what reason should this only count in the first year if no one has done it before? I think that's a very bold statement.

Why does everything have to have a price? Warframe in particular thrives on old players constantly setting themselves new goals that make the game interesting for them. Look at the screenshots. This guy has achieved so much that you can see it in the amount of platinum he has. You have to keep setting yourself new goals to keep the game interesting and not just wait for the next content update.

To your other point. 
The run was completed live on stream at twitch and you can watch the VOD.

Just a mention in the devstream or something would be cool.
Also, he would be stupid to use bugs, since he has been among the "featured dojos" many times and he is in contact with DE a lot.

vor 5 Stunden schrieb (PSN)Unstar:

Every single day, a player does something that nobody else in Warframe has ever done.  A fashion frame that nobody else has ever done before, a mod setup that nobody else has done before, a dojo art piece that nobody else has ever done before, playing a specific mission with a specific loadout that nobody else has ever done before.

Which is to say, simply being the first time someone has done something can't be the only criteria, otherwise the devs would never be able to catch their breaths due to their constant need to recognize.  To be worthy of recognition, an act needs to somehow distinguish itself as meaningful beyond the simple fact that it was the first time it was done.  Personally, I don't see that for this.

Which isn't to say that the player who did this can't feel proud that they set a personal goal for themselves and completed it, because that's great; it's just the reality that it won't necessarily matter to anyone else.

Putting a fasion frame on the same level as a 10 hour run is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?

vor 6 Stunden schrieb (PSN)EntityPendragon:

I second this, god damn

Thats not mine, thats his. This guy has 14.000h ingame, not steam ours, really MISSION HOURS :D

[CriminallyInsaniac]

vor 6 Stunden schrieb LittleLeoniePrime:

what they should mention instead is your platinum count... what the actual f

Thats his Platnum. This guy has 14.000h real ingame hours.. MISSION HOURS xD

vor 7 Stunden schrieb (XBOX)C11H22O11:

Don't see why they would mention it, at most an "impressive". 

Because it IS impressive

[CriminallyInsaniac]

Once to all who have responded here.
Play a single Archwing mission for 10 hours without leaving it until you reach the level cap. The point of this is that you don't play Warframe like normal. Many have already done that. You have completely different means and ways in the mode. The setup is very limited. The whole thing drifts quite a bit.

vor 3 Stunden schrieb GPrime96:

I don’t think they look at the leaderboards. I’ve been to level cap multiple times in SP Circuit and once in SP Disruption and i doubt that would get seen anytime soon.

Oh by the way. Circuit? Come on. With all the decrees getting there that is not really a chellange

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5 minutes ago, CriminallyInsaniac said:

5 hours ago, (PSN)Unstar said:

Every single day, a player does something that nobody else in Warframe has ever done.  A fashion frame that nobody else has ever done before, a mod setup that nobody else has done before, a dojo art piece that nobody else has ever done before, playing a specific mission with a specific loadout that nobody else has ever done before.

Which is to say, simply being the first time someone has done something can't be the only criteria, otherwise the devs would never be able to catch their breaths due to their constant need to recognize.  To be worthy of recognition, an act needs to somehow distinguish itself as meaningful beyond the simple fact that it was the first time it was done.  Personally, I don't see that for this.

Which isn't to say that the player who did this can't feel proud that they set a personal goal for themselves and completed it, because that's great; it's just the reality that it won't necessarily matter to anyone else.

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Putting a fasion frame on the same level as a 10 hour run is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?

I'm not putting it at the same level, I'm saying that your explanation of why it deserves recognition is flawed because it also encompasses the things I listed.  Ergo, better rationale is needed.

[CriminallyInsaniac]

vor 3 Minuten schrieb (PSN)Unstar:

I'm not putting it at the same level, I'm saying that your explanation of why it deserves recognition is flawed because it also encompasses the things I listed.  Ergo, better rationale is needed.

We have fundamentally different views on this. When developers implement a harder mode than the normal one into the game and there is also a more complicated variant for this mode, it should be mentioned when players manage to complete it this far for the first time.

[CosoMalvadoNG]

hace 23 minutos, CriminallyInsaniac dijo:

For what reason should this only count in the first year if no one has done it before? I think that's a very bold statement.

Because when the game started people were very competitive. There were literally even events that gave prizes based on the time you can stay in a infinite mision.  But all that its in the past.

Edited September 19 by CosoMalvadoNG

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2 minutes ago, CriminallyInsaniac said:

We have fundamentally different views on this. When developers implement a harder mode than the normal one into the game and there is also a more complicated variant for this mode, it should be mentioned when players manage to complete it this far for the first time.

Everyone is entitled to their subjective opinion, I guess I just don't see how playing a game for 10 hours straight should be seen as a good thing, rather than something to caution against.  And history has shown that when things like that get publicized, it can act as negative press for the game, because most people read it not as "wow, this person did a cool thing" but rather as "it takes 10 hours to do this game thing, that's ridiculous, why have the devs made such a monumental barrier that wastes people's time?"  A decade or two ago something similar happened in Final Fantasy 11, and the backlash was enough that it resulted in the developers restricting the way the game could be played to ensure that runs like that couldn't happen again.

If I were the developers, I would go out of my way to not mention a 10-hour run as if it were any kind of achievement.  Both to protect the game's brand, and to not risk the appearance of encouraging players to play this way.

(No shade to your friend, of course; if they determined that this was a healthy way for them personally to play, I respect that.)

[CriminallyInsaniac]

Of course, everyone has the right to their own opinion.

The game warns every hour that you are already playing for an hour and you should take a break. Moreover, it's not something you have to complete, but doing it means not only playing this game for 10 hours, but also performing certain feats in this game. And that's exactly the kind of performance a "grind shooter" is after. In addition, 10 hours in times of streaming are nothing more. Stream marathons nowadays go on for days or even weeks. I don't see any reason why the whole thing should have negative effects through the press or the like if you can prove enough.

Final Fantasy is designed quite differently. It's not designed to do a lot to have a lot. Warframe has always been known for exactly that. That's why it's called GRIND. 

Please don't take this personally, but if you were a developer of a game that was all about grinding, and you didn't mention it to protect yourself, you chose the wrong genre to develop that game in.

[Hexerin]

7 hours ago, LittleLeoniePrime said:

what they should mention instead is your platinum count... what the actual f

6 hours ago, (PSN)EntityPendragon said:

I second this, god damn

There's a dozen different things that give this amount of platinum. It's not anything impressive.

[CosoMalvadoNG]

hace 7 minutos, CriminallyInsaniac dijo:

Of course, everyone has the right to their own opinion.

The game warns every hour that you are already playing for an hour and you should take a break. Moreover, it's not something you have to complete, but doing it means not only playing this game for 10 hours, but also performing certain feats in this game. And that's exactly the kind of performance a "grind shooter" is after. In addition, 10 hours in times of streaming are nothing more. Stream marathons nowadays go on for days or even weeks. I don't see any reason why the whole thing should have negative effects through the press or the like if you can prove enough.

Final Fantasy is designed quite differently. It's not designed to do a lot to have a lot. Warframe has always been known for exactly that. That's why it's called GRIND. 

Please don't take this personally, but if you were a developer of a game that was all about grinding, and you didn't mention it to protect yourself, you chose the wrong genre to develop that game in.

I'm already bored of the topic. The fact is that what you want will not happen, whether you like it or not. It doesn't matter what your reasoning is, ''that''' is not ''a thing'' in Warframe.

Have a good day.

Edited September 19 by CosoMalvadoNG

[Waeleto]

Who cares about level cap lmfao

[(PSN)slightconfuzzled]

Very cool and impressive. 

A few things though, I don't think anyone in this thread is trying to downplay the achievement, just be realistic and practical about what DE could or should do. 

To be transparent, whilst I think its a cool accomplishment, and deserves kudos, such things in general, do not really interest me. Like who were the first players to get to Steel Path level cap? Have no idea myself. So when you talk about this, are you saying that DE has recognised and celebrated such milestones or firsts before? Like first solo to level cap? First team to get to level cap in Disruption? First solo person to get to level cap with all Warframes? Dozens of other firsts? Is it a common thing they mention on Dev Streams, or the other streams? Personally I tend to watch more Dev Streams than the variety streams they produce, because I care more about that content specifically... 

So if DE does... then great. Maybe you have a chance, but people who do the streams aren't mind readers. You may have to contact someone more directly and make a request. "Hey, these people did something cool, maybe they can be mentioned on the weekly Friday Stream?', if DE doesn't really do such things, because their may potentially be too many, and its not as important to them, then why should this be an exception? Again, acknowledgment can be nice for some, and I wouldn't want to say people shouldn't like that, but also, personally, I wouldn't care that much. Not all want such recognition, and since with this sort of thing, there could be a ton of firsts, past, present and future... well its a bit of a tricky bag to just assume they should all receive regular attention, celebration and acknowledgement. 

[NecroPed]

7 hours ago, LittleLeoniePrime said:

what they should mention instead is your platinum count... what the actual f

It actually kinda annoys me that they have that much, they couldn't possibly be using it, so it's surely just going to waste. "Why?" is all I can think of...

31 minutes ago, Hexerin said:

There's a dozen different things that give this amount of platinum. It's not anything impressive.

Name 1 thing that earns you 1 million platinum please, get any more than 1 thing and I'll be impressed before getting even remotely close to a dozen.. 1 million platinum isn't exactly impressive as far as I'm concerned (I don't think it's something that takes skill or anything so doesn't impress me), it's ABSURD. 

[Hexerin]

25 minutes ago, NecroPed said:

Name 1 thing that earns you 1 million platinum please, get any more than 1 thing and I'll be impressed before getting even remotely close to a dozen.. 1 million platinum isn't exactly impressive as far as I'm concerned (I don't think it's something that takes skill or anything so doesn't impress me), it's ABSURD. 

Oh. I didn't notice it in the first screenshot, I just saw the 1,000 in the second one.

Yea that's... something.

Edited September 19 by Hexerin