Tiltskillet Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) Fair amount of interesting stuff: https://wccftech.com/warframe-whispers-in-the-walls-and-beyond-qa-with-creative-director-rebecca-ford/ Highlights for me: Saving progress in endless Reducing bile costs for shard removal 5 new Incarnon Adapters Some ideas for frame reworks, one will be coming in 2024, but no firm plans yet. No modular Archwing edit: I missed the already existing thread about this here: Edited December 10, 2023 by Tiltskillet 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myscho Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Warframe 1999 probably after TennoCon 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Yes, some good stuff in there, but RIP archwing, I guess it's wings have been clipped. Oh well, at least we're still on for Stug Incarnon XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0Despair0o Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 28 minutes ago, Tiltskillet said: No modular Archwing God forbid we have an actual choice other than Amesha or Odonata Prime. See that actual nuke on Elytra? Yeah, Dagath's 4 deals like 20+ times the damage. I mean, come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle_of_Psi Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 40 minutes ago, Tiltskillet said: Reducing bile costs for shard removal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)jaggerwanderer Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 We've seen DE white board before and how outside forces not in DE's control impact their future plans. I'll wait until the next devstream before indulging in speculations. By that time, Reb Ford would have some formal speech about everything mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiltskillet Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, o0Despair0o said: God forbid we have an actual choice other than Amesha or Odonata Prime. "Highlights" as in particularly noteworthy details rather than details I'm most pleased about, if that wasn't clear. Not that a re-announcement of modular archwing on its own would have gotten my hype motor past first gear or anything. I'm super pleased about "Saving Progress in Endless" (Almost entirely because of bad host migrations in Circuit and the side-effects on player behavior these cause.) and happy they're lowering bile costs at least. I'm glad to hear more Incarnon are coming, but I hope it doesn't mean that only 5 are coming in 2024. Similarly I'm glad they've got ideas for frame reworks, but I'm hoping for at least two next year. There were other noteworthy things too, but I just picked out the things that interested me the most. Edited December 10, 2023 by Tiltskillet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loza03 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, o0Despair0o said: See that actual nuke on Elytra? Yeah, Dagath's 4 deals like 20+ times the damage. I mean, come on. THAT is the fault of flaws in the modding system. Namely scaling differences. Abilities need absurd power creep to keep up with the fact that almost any basic weapon mod will outstrip dedicating an entire build to power strength if they have even remotely similar base damage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiltskillet Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, (PSN)jaggerwanderer said: I'll wait until the next devstream before indulging in speculations. By that time, Reb Ford would have some formal speech about everything mention. You just indulged in a speculation. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)slightconfuzzled Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Just a heads up that this might get folded/merged into this thread which is about the very same Interview that was posted earlier. It was a pretty good interview, most of OP's highlights are mine as well, am curious to see what the Incarnons will be. Am hoping will be Tigris, Sybaris. Also interesting to hear we will get a fist weapon soon. I wonder if it might be an Infested Lich weapon. Though that might be later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla_Reloaded Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 51 минуту назад, Tiltskillet сказал: 5 new Incarnon Adapters Please, no! I don't want to return to the Circuit! Anything but this awful, buggy mess! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiltskillet Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Tesla_Reloaded said: Please, no! I don't want to return to the Circuit! Anything but this awful, buggy mess! Even if they're saving Circuit progress at that point? For me it would be one of the best game modes if it weren't for bugs causing progress halts. So I'm really pleased about that. 4 minutes ago, (PSN)slightconfuzzled said: Just a heads up that this might get folded/merged into this thread which is about the very same Interview that was posted earlier. Doh! I looked around but missed that entirely. I'll /report myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla_Reloaded Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) 4 минуты назад, Tiltskillet сказал: Even if they're saving Circuit progress at that point? For me it would be one of the best game modes if it weren't for bugs causing progress halts. So I'm really pleased about that. The progress saving will be only a slight improvement, considering all other annoying bugs that still present in the game mode (corrupted jackal bugging out, people getting pulled back into the loading zone or getting stuck in operator mode, host migration messing everything up and so on). It's like putting a band aid over a huge bleeding wound. Edited December 10, 2023 by Tesla_Reloaded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiltskillet Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Tesla_Reloaded said: The progress saving will be only a slight improvement, considering all other annoying bugs that still present in the game mode (corrupted jackal bugging out, people getting pulled back into the loading zone or getting stuck in operator mode, host migration messing everything up and so on). It's like putting a band aid over a huge bleeding wound. True, but I haven't given up on them fixing more Circuit bugs. (Like, if they're not working on Jackal, they need to be sued for Dev malpractice.) And I'd say that if these new Incarnon are attached to Circuit, it makes it even more likely bugs get fixed than if it were dead content. I have given up on them fixing every host migration issue though, so for me this is probably the most important step they could make. Hopefully it's coming soon and it actually works. Edited December 10, 2023 by Tiltskillet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3512 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 5 hours ago, Tiltskillet said: Even if they're saving Circuit progress at that point? For me it would be one of the best game modes if it weren't for bugs causing progress halts. So I'm really pleased about that. Yes because every new 5 Incarnons blows the rotation out another week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0Despair0o Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 10 hours ago, Tiltskillet said: "Highlights" as in particularly noteworthy details rather than details I'm most pleased about, if that wasn't clear. I'm aware. I was just venting about DE abandoning Archwings yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waeleto Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Calling it right now, Arthur is the stalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silligoose Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Seems DE continues to wind down in releases, with planned content looking less exciting and cobbled together. WF1999 after Tennocon, some needless powercreep with no real opposition to it (Incarnon weapons, Archon Shard fusion stuff), some acknowledgements for things DE doesn't love and might look into (won't hold my breath)), acknowledgement of crappy mechanics they won't look into... 2024 looking rather barren and DE looking rather lack-lustre in passion, creativity and goals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShogunGunshow Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 16 hours ago, Loza03 said: THAT is the fault of flaws in the modding system. Namely scaling differences. Abilities need absurd power creep to keep up with the fact that almost any basic weapon mod will outstrip dedicating an entire build to power strength if they have even remotely similar base damage. TBH I've kind of wished that one of the archon shard bonuses was 'converts x% of ability damage to True damage.' It's so bemusing that sometimes the best way to get Warframe abilities to actually kill stuff outside of a full armor strip is using stacking global damage Circuit decrees. I mean, I guess the other thing they could do is do a complete Status 3.0+enemy armor/EHP refactor, but considering Pablo just continues to slap viral on sh*t that doesn't make sense thematically, I think DE has just accepted that this is how status works forever now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loza03 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 4 hours ago, ShogunGunshow said: TBH I've kind of wished that one of the archon shard bonuses was 'converts x% of ability damage to True damage.' It's so bemusing that sometimes the best way to get Warframe abilities to actually kill stuff outside of a full armor strip is using stacking global damage Circuit decrees. I mean, I guess the other thing they could do is do a complete Status 3.0+enemy armor/EHP refactor, but considering Pablo just continues to slap viral on sh*t that doesn't make sense thematically, I think DE has just accepted that this is how status works forever now. Yeah, but we can dream, right? Of a game that has its internal maths sorted out, opening more design space for more weapons and playstyles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiltskillet Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 16 hours ago, L3512 said: Yes because every new 5 Incarnons blows the rotation out another week. What's your complaint, exactly? If you just dislike Circuit gameplay, fine, but Tesla and I were talking about bugs making it unpleasant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3512 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 8 hours ago, Tiltskillet said: What's your complaint, exactly? If you just dislike Circuit gameplay, fine, but Tesla and I were talking about bugs making it unpleasant. On 2023-12-11 at 6:26 AM, Tesla_Reloaded said: Please, no! I don't want to return to the Circuit! Anything but this awful, buggy mess! On 2023-12-11 at 6:32 AM, Tiltskillet said: Even if they're saving Circuit progress at that point? On 2023-12-11 at 11:49 AM, L3512 said: Yes because every new 5 Incarnons blows the rotation out another week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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