Cloth is STILL tearing on dozens of skins ever since the cloth smoothing update - a compilation

[Erra]

UPDATE: SOME OF THESE HAVE BEEN FIXED IN A HOTFIX, BUT MANY STILL REMAIN!!

 

Nearly a year ago as of writing, Citrine's Last Wish came out. DE made a change to cloth rendering that smoothed out the mesh deformation on cloth physics.

On 2023-02-16 at 3:00 AM, [DE]Connor said:

Cloth Improvements: 

We softened cloth to reduce the jaggedness that could result from motion causing the fabric to bend, so cloth will now appear more smooth. 

It causes what I can only describe as 'tearing' to appear at the seams on skin geometry where the skeletal mesh ends, and the cloth-simulated mesh begins. Just some light movement reveals the tear, but sometimes it only takes the mere sag of gravity. Many different bug report threads have been made, most going completely ignored by DE. This thread is a compilation of every skin with this issue. If I missed any, point it out!

These were taken in Captura with a red background. Seams are marked in light blue.

Harrow Reliquary - Cloth on the sides of his shoulder pads.

Harrow Reliquary - Cloth from his skirt.

Harrow Reliquary - Loincloth hanging from his ribcage.

Harrow Reliquary - Cloth hanging on his front.

 

 

Revenant Mephisto Syandana - Cloth on the front.

Revenant Mephisto Syandana - Cloth on his collar. I almost missed this one! Seam continues past the '. . .' , too thin to mark. 

Revenant Mephisto Body - Cloth on his skirt.

 

 

Zephyr Harrier Jacket - Sides of her jacket. I rolled backwards to reveal this seam.

Zephyr Harrier Jacket - Her jacket collar.

Nyx Pasithea Body - Her skirt. This tear is rather large.

Gauss Default Skin - His skirt. I fed Gauss to Helminth, but I was able to spot this by selecting Gauss in arsenal and jostling the poor fella around. It seems like some of the geometry intersecting the cloth and skeletal meshes are duplicated, which the smoothing reveals.

 

Edited October 18, 2024 by Erra

[RitaSanderson]

Adding to this:
Banshee prime

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Ivara Skathi

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Valkyr Carnivex jacket

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Hydroid Rakkm

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Equinox Antonym
 

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[NightmareT12]

You can add Nidus Prime to the list too:

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And Volt Prime as well. Don't have footage nor pics, but both Volt's default mesh and Volt Prime's mesh skirts disattach from the main body (it's a single piece, so instead of "breaking" it kind of "floats"), while before the origin point was mantained. I've also noticed the same happen on Excalibur's Zato "skirt", where instead of keeping glued to his waist the animations treat it as a holstered melee on the tigh, instead of the attaching points being respected.

[RitaSanderson]

Nekros deluxe back suffers from it too

[RitaSanderson]

Adding two more 🫠 Let's hope DE at least acknowledge the problem
Ember deluxe (don't have it so sorry for bad pic)

Titania deluxe back (a bit hard to see but it's here)

[RitaSanderson]

Harrier suit affected by this too, so not only warframes are suffering

[RitaSanderson]

Default Wisp
Looks like tennogen skins are affected too (don't have them but you can clearly see it in arsenal)
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[(PSN)Sentiel]

I have no idea how I missed this but upon checking some of your samples I can confirm I can see the the same in my game as well and now I cannot unsee this.

[RitaSanderson]

Frost deluxe
There's more i'm sure

[(PSN)Sentiel]

8 minutes ago, RitaSanderson said:

Frost deluxe
There's more i'm sure

Damn! You could grind meat on those abs. 🥵

[RitaSanderson]

Default Harrow

[NightmareT12]

Still an issue after the latest interim update. Crossing fingers for Dante Unbound :3

[RitaSanderson]

Protea deluxe

[RitaSanderson]

Harrier suit is even worse when your operator/drifter is moving

[RitaSanderson]

Zephyr alt helmet, more noticeable in motion

 

[RitaSanderson]

Been trying to get a better pics for Valkyr skin and yeah...🥲

[Stormandreas]

The fact that cloth has been broken for well over a year is... odd ngl, especially after putting out a "fix" for cloth that broke it further.

It feels like very few things were checked over before implementing the "fix" and it was just assumed everything will be fine. I'd really like to see this resolved as it makes many skins kinda distracting once you notice the tears

[RitaSanderson]

oh and the NPCs are affected too

[SpicyGrampa]

On 2024-03-10 at 10:16 AM, Stormandreas said:

The fact that cloth has been broken for well over a year is... odd ngl, especially after putting out a "fix" for cloth that broke it further.

It feels like very few things were checked over before implementing the "fix" and it was just assumed everything will be fine. I'd really like to see this resolved as it makes many skins kinda distracting once you notice the tears

the Valkyr one is real bad since her hysteria and agile animation stretches the model out to much on the left side. It seems like it puts he left shoulder to far back

[RitaSanderson]

Dante update - still no fixes or any acknowledge from DE

[Flavor-Savior]

I would also like an update or acknowledgement. Saw somebody already posted Hydroid's tennogen poseidon helm, which is especially distracting since it's my favorite.

[FrostSpectre]

Well, you can add one more about Wisp

Her default helmet has the backside scarves torn.

 

Sad that the jigglebone connections are busted...

Predasites are not Warframes tho, but they too have cuts on their ears and tail.

[RitaSanderson]

Now that Banshee got a voidshell skin i think it's a good thing to once again remind about broken Banshee Prime (and the MANY other warframes) thanks to Citrine update

[Terroriced]

Found this on youtube, Deimos pets have this bug with their tails.

https://youtu.be/fAKHLoQ83U4?t=8061

[RitaSanderson]

Still nothing 🫠