Brimir Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 This game has to have the worst devs for a pve game lol why nerf something in pve game that took 100 missions to complete. their already showing signs that their going to go under. due to whinner catering. Because it was imbalanced. How can people seriously think that "PvE games don't need balance!" is a valid argument? I see it everywhere these days! Anyway, it is not rocket science.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avinity8 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 - I'm still laughing at both the falloff and the slant dmg. Impact?! really now impact?! and so by so much and combined with the falloff and the long time since it's release that it took you to finally nerf it. Failed management team. This should have been ironed out before dmg 2.0/u11 was out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Failed management team. This should have been ironed out before dmg 2.0/u11 was out. Failed, how? They pretty much came right out and said that the early phase of U11 was gonna be one big experiment and we should expect tons of tweaks in the following month(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genclaymore Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) Clearly someone is drunk ^! I agree, I even have the brakk and still uses other pistols. The only thing I dont like about the nerf is the range being lowered. The rest of the nerf doesnt brother me. Edited December 6, 2013 by genclaymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdUp Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Now my sentinel will get its fair share of kill cred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avinity8 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Failed, how? They pretty much came right out and said that the early phase of U11 was gonna be one big experiment and we should expect tons of tweaks in the following month(s). ... The nerfs have been happening before U11. Your rebuttal is redundant. They need to manage testing weapons/frames better (if at all) properly before release. As I mention in this thread or the Brakk thread, it's seems to be a practice of theirs that they are exploiting. Nerframe is the new official name. I haven't played any game with even just 1/3 of the nerfs, especially in the amount of time this has, beta or not. Don't be a sheep, open your eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdUp Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Only thing that comes to mind is that since the Brakk is a Grineer weapon, it should be better at killing Corpus than Grineer. This may have already been mentioned, but I stopped reading at page 3/13, lulz. Yeah. Witness the Prova and Lecta. Even the Corpus excel at making anti-Corpus weapons. As for the Brakk nerf(s)... man, I'd bet it's still better than my Lato Prime, but I'm not complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marthrym Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Because it was imbalanced. How can people seriously think that "PvE games don't need balance!" is a valid argument? I see it everywhere these days! Anyway, it is not rocket science.... Balancing a game =/= nerfing a game. Just pointing it out. Off course it needs balance, Just turning a handcannon/flakgun ( except not anti-air :-) ) style weapon into yet ANOTHER pocket shotgun. You call THAT balance? Even the damage tweak, while not a nerf in my opinion, just makes the Brakk even more mainstream. Impact oriented, what a surprise. Might as well call it Bronco+. And as stated by someone else earlier, a little heads up on that kind of "balancing" would be very welcome. I love you De, I really do. But sometimes.... I simply don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goozilla Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Brakk nerfed? Thank god I only spent 1 forma on that.Guess its time to switch on back to Bronco Prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Balancing a game =/= nerfing a game. Just pointing it out. Actually that's exactly what it means; nerfing and buffing are essentially what balancing is about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lensman Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 *Sigh* I am dissapoint... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowturtle Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 and nothing of value was lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonvision Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 finally they fix that sidearm-shotgun oversight, great work DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzelt Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 is it just me or brakk only shoot 4 pellet now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterrobangTF2 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Removed Warframe and Sentinel Abilities (Precepts) from Mod Packs and Transmute results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ailith Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) - Brakk change: Damage slanted towards impact damage. Little more spread added. Fall off added (10-20m) Tell me, why did I spend the entire week running missions for that event? Back to using my Vasto... - Fixed issue where Valkyr’s Hysteria added a level 30 Furax to Arsenal on mission complete. Wut. Edited December 7, 2013 by Ailith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akatsakii Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Brimir, theres still no balance effectively existing in this game because while there may be overpowered weapons getting nerfs that tick everyone off, there are still plenty of weapons that feel COMPLETELY USELESS. Take the brand spanking new Lecta for example... I took the time to level it to 30 twice (yea, one forma) just to TRY and make it a useable weapon, but honestly it kinda feels like I'm flinging an inaccurate piece of string at my enemies. Couple that with the fact that a single lv100 ancient can pretty much three-shot most non-rhinos.... Yea... If DE wants balance, fix the problem from both sides of the spectrum. Don't just weaken your effective weapons because you can't make the rest work. And if you cant figure out a way to make its stats unique and still balanced in, DONT RELEASE NEW CONTENT. For the love of all that's holy, think before you update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ailith Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Removed Warframe and Sentinel Abilities (Precepts) from Mod Packs and Transmute results. This is an amazing thing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marthrym Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Actually that's exactly what it means; nerfing and buffing are essentially what balancing is about! Yeah, nerfing AND buffing. Kind of lacking in the second department. Again. just pointing it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Yeah, nerfing AND buffing. Kind of lacking in the second department. Again. just pointing it out. U11 was essentially a huge buff to countless weapons in the game. Stuff you never dreamed of using pre-U11 is now viable again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLucifer Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 More Nerfs again...seriously getting old... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vultor Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) So I shouldn't bother Forma'ing my guns because they'll be irrelevant in a month or so? I also shouldn't participate in events because of this reason? Alright, got the message. Thanks DE. couldn't summarize the situation better... sadly it feels terrible to do all the work ("leveling it up" after each forma) and then realize your weapon will never be what you expected. It's so boring to "level up" again after each f****** formas!!! I want my formas back DEs!!! FIX1 : the terrible drop rate of essential mods like fever strike and contagious spread. FIX2 : frost abilities being useless at high lvl (except the globe) FIX3 : the @(*()$ stamina that oblige us to always run and slide (damn stupid stamina mods that take the room of important mods): I feel like a @(*()$ grandpa with frost. Edited December 7, 2013 by Vultor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapt0rman Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Whiners always win. Guess this game will soon become Nerfframe. RIP Brakk But you are whining, so whats going to happen now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mizukage Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 NOOOOOOO BRAAAAAKKKKKK!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kasumi- Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Nerfs get irritating, but still doesn't effect me atm. Never used Brakk, don't really want to. There are still lots of viable weapons out there though. I do agree that once something is nerfed enemies need a bit of a nerf as well, but in all honesty, this game is STILL beta. So NOW is the time to fix things and get logistics and numbers out of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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