harly Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 (edited) You guys removed our own name from the 'z' player list. Come on, can we have this back? Or make it an option? It's hard enough for those of us playing healing/shielding/support frames to keep an eye on other players, now we have to constantly dart from the bottom left to the top right of the screen. Edit: adding in feedback from others. * Currently impossible to see what % of our own health we have, without remembering the exact number for full, which the z bar fixes * z popup and in game FPS counter interfere with each other * would be good also to have bar display of energy, as again, number meaningless without knowledge of max Please guys. A cursory bit of research on good frame layout for people who have responsibility of giving energy/health to the team is that overwhelmingly all bars are visible in the same area, including self. Completely happy if you want it minimal for those who don't care/can't help team energy/self. Just give us the option, thanks. Edited December 26, 2013 by harly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainInvader Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 They also removed the box around it... seems they will be forcing the UI "upgrade" on us :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CM-csdisc Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Please add our own hp bar back to the team list. People use this list to heal others and self when using Trinity. Now we are forced to look in two places to keep an eye on everyone's health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaveCricket48 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 +1 for support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyria Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 I would like this back too! It is nice to only have to one-check to judge hp status and to time Trinity/team heal right. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-000- Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 I want my hp bar back!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varzy Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-000- Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherIcarus Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylia Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 All they'd have to do is move the window down a little bit. Oi. Or move Lotus up a little. But yes, I need my own bar in that window, having to look up at the extreme upper right and extreme bottom left is not working for me, TBH. As it is, I wish my own health/shield had small little ( and ) around the crosshair so I knew my own status all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andoryuu Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) Team status pop-up needs more things, not less. Frankly, if it contained amount of energy, I would never looked at the top right window again. I'm using team status even when doing solo mission (not anymore, I guess). Today I almost died several times in online play just because nobody was taking any high damage and I didn't see that red bar indicator telling me that I'm really low and should hit the Blessing. (It was level 10 mission, no big damage but it stacks over time. Also, downmodded Ogris...) Edited December 21, 2013 by Andoryuu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CM-csdisc Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Overlap Image There are better solutions to the overlap situation then removing our much needed shield and health bars. Adding energy bar here would also be nice but only on ourselves. We don't need to see other people's energy status. The removal of our own hp and shield bars hurts the game play more than the occasional overlap. I just don't understand why the team window can't just move down a little to solve the overlap problem instead of removing something everyone uses and relies on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherIcarus Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Having team energy there would be great as well, I am constantly asking if anyone need energy were as if I could see it I could just drop energy vampire on a target when they are low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushh Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Please add our own hp bar back to the team list. People use this list to heal others and self when using Trinity. Now we are forced to look in two places to keep an eye on everyone's health. Yeah seriously wtf. I actually use this to check the percentage of my health (red bar) since I don't know my total health, so I won't have to overspend healing consumables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krag_Warmaster Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 It is very frustrating to not see my own health as a bar in the team window. Running as Trinity, I do not sit back behind cover and watch the team health window and hit no.4 when needed. I run into the mix with link on blasting the enemy in the face with a shotgun. I was running a t2 survival just before the Cisero Crisis patch and the team was forced to fall back to extract at 36 minutes. I ran through 50+ high level enemies to activate life support all while making sure my team and I was in good health. We made 40 minutes. Now, I can't just look bottom left and see my own health amongst my teammates' represented as a bar (percentage). This makes Trinity very difficult to play as a combat medic. Also, for those of us who have more than 3 warframes, It's difficult to remember what full health is on all of our warframes. Please give us back a full team health window. In most of our minds, there was no good reason to alter it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFDelta Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 As someone who mainly plays Trinity/Mag I just +1'd this so hard I almost broke my keyboard. (no seriously DE, give it back) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDS0Spoderman Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 hey cool ! i love that health/shield bar but there is a problem where the last member on the list ends up being covered by the FPS bar ( if show FPS is on ) and that's a bit annoying when you want to keep track of FPS's and your teams health Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoQui Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I thought you could click and drag to move that window around? Or am I just wishful thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetchuck Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brosagi Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Please bring it back. I'm glad I'm not the only on who prefrred it this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpFinX Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 There was a [DE]Dorian comment here, but now it's gone... Really, community has ridiculously united opinion about this UI change. So far, i haven't seen even one person saying that current state of pop-up is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shut Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I actually like the change a lot. In the heat of battle, I don't really know whose HP I'm looking at; with the new system, I just know that it's my teammates, not me, who are or aren't in need of some healing. But yeah, it should come back as an option for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Dorian Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 There was a [DE]Dorian comment here, but now it's gone... Really, community has ridiculously united opinion about this UI change. So far, i haven't seen even one person saying that current state of pop-up is better. I removed my comment as it was mostly speaking about plans for the new HUD, as opposed to what is currently in-game, which is what this thread touches on. But essentially, to sum up what I wrote; in the new HUD we'll definitely be looking to address the concerns that everyone has brought up about this. Thanks, everyone -- Merry Xmas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpFinX Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 ^ Wow, first one! XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geneticfate Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I enjoyed the change. I felt having my name and health/shield as any frame in the bottom left while it was already in the top right pointless. Not sure how you can't see it clearly in this game. I mean logically it was a good decision to remove it as it was only clutter. I stand by their decision entirely. I can otherwise understand how it helped other people but, at the same time was truely only clutter and annoyed me to no extent. Why would I need to see my health/shields in two different places? It would only cause me to think there was another person in the lobby, well when I first started playing and figured out that z brought up my teams health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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