Solanius Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Question is self explanatory. It drains stamina, that I know, but what does blocking with your melee weapon really do? To me, it seems like my character deflects bullets when holding it down, jedi style, but it could just be my imagination. And it didn't look like I got staggered by melee attacks. Anyone actually know the point of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirenn Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Yeah, it blocks stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DellSalami Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Yeah, it blocks stuff. No freaking S#&$ sherloc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yitani Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 No freaking S#&$ sherloc that was the OP question and well answered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solanius Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 Yeah, it blocks stuff. Thanks captain obvious, What I want to know is, how does it block? Does it mitagate all the damage or just reduce it? Does it only block the size of the weapon itself, or does it stop all bullets in front of you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathstrik3 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Not sure how much it actually blocks or if it varies between weapons as I haven't actually tested many out since the update but it seems to completely stop the damage from a percentage of incoming bullets, then the ones that get through do normal damage to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanga Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 If it has the same blocking system as a different game I can think of.... basically the blade (or whatever melee weapon you use) is moved swiftly enough to absorb all the bullets that make contact to it to prevent any direct hits. Which = no damage taken in on you directly. If a Melee attacks you, then it's just considered a Parry in which staggers the opponent that attacks (Haven't use it yet so just taking guesses) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirenn Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Thanks captain obvious, What I want to know is, how does it block? Does it mitagate all the damage or just reduce it? Does it only block the size of the weapon itself, or does it stop all bullets in front of you? I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirenn Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) I believe weapon size plays a part and you can still take damage, probably dependent on the amount of enemies and their placement around you. With a Plasma Sword and one enemy directly in front of me, I lost 20 shields, which left me with 80, but took no more damage afterwards. That could have been due to my own timing. With a Fang and multiple enemies in a "cone" area in front of me, I was left with 47 shields. Some enemies damaged me and others did not. The system requires very extensive expirementation, it's not an easily answered question at this point in time. Edited March 20, 2013 by FatalX7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriarch Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 It was awhile ago that I watched the livestream. However, I do believe DESteve mentioned that using block will use your stamina in exchange of your shield/health, and weapon size would affect how much stamina is lost per hit. Unfortunately this was awhile ago, so im unsure if i've even remembered it correctly, let alone if they implemented it in this form. Sorry if this did not help, I have yet to try blocking personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirenn Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 block will use your stamina in exchange of your shield/health, and weapon size would affect how much stamina is lost per hit. Yes, he did say exactly that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fratous Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Blocking is actually pretty cool to see. Your warframe deflects bullets while blocking, howveer, i dont like that you till take a bit of damage when they deflect shots. You already drain stamina very fast (im using a 100% Stamina max mod and it still drains crazy fast), so i don't quite understand why you are punished further for using it. I definitely will be using it alot now since i am not having much luck with a shield mod drops. Also it doesnt feel like blocking helps against melee as much as i thought it would, you still get chunked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madotsuki Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 i don't even know how to block ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasten Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 i don't even know how to block ._. Always check your control configurations in any game. (FYI they add a new 'block' option there which you have to assigne, mines on mouse 5, right side button of mouse) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CH33F Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 i don't even know how to block ._. 4th mouse button (if you don't have a gaming mouse, I don't think you have one of those) is default, but you can rebind it to something more useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildJuice Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Blocking is only useful when cornered. You can normally run to doge bullets, with minimal stam loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasten Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Blocking is only useful when cornered. You can normally run to doge bullets, with minimal stam loss. I could see some team tactics being built around one guy blocking to draw a crowd. It has possibilites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solanius Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share Posted March 21, 2013 It was awhile ago that I watched the livestream. However, I do believe DESteve mentioned that using block will use your stamina in exchange of your shield/health, and weapon size would affect how much stamina is lost per hit. Unfortunately this was awhile ago, so im unsure if i've even remembered it correctly, let alone if they implemented it in this form. Sorry if this did not help, I have yet to try blocking personally. Thanks for the response, answered my question! Blocking is only useful when cornered. You can normally run to doge bullets, with minimal stam loss. Yeah, I noticed that too. For the time being I think I'm gonna just stick to dodging bullets rather than trying to block them, it's a whole lot more effective atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubedOobleck Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Blocking shouldn't be based on stamina, right now if you look at the warframes they usually have more stamina when they are frail, but I would expect heavier warframes to be able to block efficiently and be even more tanky... not that it matters much with the current blocking, but it'd be a shame if heavy warframes became obsolete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlyShadow Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Actually for me is useless right now, I get the same damage without bolcking, while blocking, which is ridiculous (lvl 30 Jaw Sword, dual heat swords and plasma sword, all modded) would be great if the blocking actually block any oncomig damage, but for a bit higher cost of stamina, and without draining it while you are in this stance and you're not taking any damage. and make the stamina recharge a bit slower when it's drained by blocking, that would make it more useful, and wuld actually help us a lot, since the game became harder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlayn Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Blocking is useless... problem is we should be able to block attack block attack block attack... instead its attack pause for a long time, block pause, attack pause... which is annoying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StabbyTentacles Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Always check your control configurations in any game. (FYI they add a new 'block' option there which you have to assigne, mines on mouse 5, right side button of mouse) Thnx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawGritz Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) I could see some team tactics being built around one guy blocking to draw a crowd. It has possibilites. ^ This! I block with my back against a teammate's while they hack. I also believe enemies do take some damage from deflected bullets. Edited March 25, 2013 by RawGritz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawGritz Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) I like the blocking system It's more skilled based I feel since it drains stamina. You have to time it better. It doesn't slow the pace of the game. If blocking only took stamina when hit, most players would just stand in block position until they were struck. This is why I don't advise blocking while standing still. Blocking while sliding or sprinting to an opponent or downed teammate, is ideal. It has saved my life many times Edited March 25, 2013 by RawGritz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neKroMancer Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I ran some tests in-game with different weapon. Caloris mission, left one Grineer Lancer alive. Bullet deflecting actually blocks incoming range damage. 220 shield Excalibur with some weapons (Amphis, Fang, Cronus, and Scindo) The usual bursts reduce my shield by 50. When blocked, damage was reduced to 30-35. However, I think it's tied to attack speed since Fang was extremey effective at reducing damage while Scindo barely reduced any damage. Amphis also didn't reduce any damage. Need further testing since it could be biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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