leonvision Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 so as the title says, i think we should let one side, the closer side, the grineer take over the ENTIRE starchart and see how DE responds, and see when will they come out and admit the invasion system currently is a flawed system. and yes, im aware boss nodes cant be taken over or invaded, but that leaves only...6 corpus nodes on the entire starchart. and before people say loyalty or whatever, this shouldnt be about which faction you prefer to support, but about getting DE to admit the invasion system is a flawed system and a failed experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaresin Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) so as the title says, i think we should let one side, the closer side, the grineer take over the ENTIRE starchart and see how DE responds, and see when will they come out and admit the invasion system currently is a flawed system. and yes, im aware boss nodes cant be taken over or invaded, but that leaves only...6 corpus nodes on the entire starchart. and before people say loyalty or whatever, this shouldnt be about which faction you prefer to support, but about getting DE to admit the invasion system is a flawed system and a failed experiment. No thanks...I prefer to support who I want...lets not have another gradivus again. I enjoy the invasion mechanic for the simple fact that it spices things up and moves things around. If you don't like it...umm...find a new game? EDIT: And just because one faction takes over anothers nodes, doesn't mean the original faction can't win them back. And please don't pass your opinion off as fact. You may view it as a flawed system and a failed experiment, but others don't. Edited January 26, 2014 by Zaresin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonvision Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 No thanks...I prefer to support who I want...lets not have another gradivus again. I enjoy the invasion mechanic for the simple fact that it spices things up and moves things around. If you don't like it...umm...find a new game? EDIT: And just because one faction takes over anothers nodes, doesn't mean the original faction can't win them back. And please don't pass your opinion off as fact. You may view it as a flawed system and a failed experiment, but others don't. the problem is it allows the playerbase to remove content from the game. also, if you think corpus can win back right now, just look at europa, half of it has been converted to grineer in the past 3 days alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriKlein Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 So you want to clash with DE by having Grineer take over the map? Best Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abelarde-EGT- Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Sooner or later it will be like that anyway. Introducing a stalker-like enemy just for one of the factions has led to an enormous imbalance in the invasion system (again, they should have learned from gradivus...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaresin Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 the problem is it allows the playerbase to remove content from the game. also, if you think corpus can win back right now, just look at europa, half of it has been converted to grineer in the past 3 days alone. And you know the players can change it back. It is not a one way street. If those resources are important to players, they will push to get it back. Doesn't meant those same resources won't popup elsewhere as well in a different region taken over by the opposite faction. Just allows players to interact intimately with the games factions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoliru Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) And you know the players can change it back. It is not a one way street. If those resources are important to players, they will push to get it back. Doesn't meant those same resources won't popup elsewhere as well in a different region taken over by the opposite faction. Just allows players to interact intimately with the games factions. your wrong everyone is going for Detron so they dont care about anything else and basicaly Always will be grineer who wins they WONT change it back becaus of the Harvester Edited January 26, 2014 by Zoliru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmthebigman Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Sooner or later it will be like that anyway. Introducing a stalker-like enemy just for one of the factions has led to an enormous imbalance in the invasion system (again, they should have learned from gradivus...) untill more and more people obtain detron and then go for best reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angius Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Lol Harvester. Grineer will take the whole system sooner or later, unless Corpus will start to offer potatoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liacu Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) I don't see why that would be such a big deal. When that eventually happens if ever, DE will introduce a simple fix. End of story. They easily removed all infested from Eris and they could very easily remove Grineer from whatever Corpus planet there is. Edited January 26, 2014 by Liacu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchel Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 wowe. im so concerend abt grineer taekling over the whul solare systam. realy im so conszernd. no, srsly. the developers can control anything. the have fooled you to support the grineers already if you didnt noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidSPD Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) And you know the players can change it back. It is not a one way street. If those resources are important to players, they will push to get it back. Doesn't meant those same resources won't popup elsewhere as well in a different region taken over by the opposite faction. Just allows players to interact intimately with the games factions. In a perfect world, sure. But things don't work that way in practice. Also, I don't think completing a mission for a specific faction and getting a reward really qualifies as "intimate interaction". You pick a side, you complete the mission, then wait for payment. That's the extent of interaction. People could do that before this invasion system was implemented, really. Edited January 26, 2014 by DavidSPD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CrimsonDevil- Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) and before people say loyalty or whatever, this shouldnt be about which faction you prefer to support, but about getting DE to admit the invasion system is a flawed system and a failed experiment. The system isn't so much flawed, well it is. BUT they did introduce a stalker-like boss to ONE faction. Until they restore the balance that was once there in the Invasion System.. we'll be fighting the Grineer for a while -___- Maybe if they were to release a Grineer version that people say should drop the Brakk.. (I really disagree with that.. drop the Prova Vandal... come on you guys know you want it!) There will be an imbalance in the Invasion system until the Corpus offer some "interesting" Just gonna place this link here to how I responded to The Invasion system earlier this morning.. >.> https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/168295-the-invasions/#entry1973369 Edited January 26, 2014 by PhantomPains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svati Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 It's not flawed, it just gives DE control. just go back and forth with the rewards people want and it'll be a nice pendulum. Cake to push one way or another for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinperor Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Pretty sure people are overreacting to the Grineer advance on Europa anyway. As far as I know that's the first invasion that profits from the hotfixed more aggressive spreading. For what we know Corpus will spread like wildfire in another planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BETAOPTICS Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 From a gameplay aspect it would become boring but on the other hand, it would certainly be a interesting social experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khawz Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Hmm i find myself playing for the Corpus more, but now i see why people play for the Grineer more, so would intruducing a Harvester/Stalker from the Grineer a good solution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MageMeat Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 It's not flawed, it just gives DE control. just go back and forth with the rewards people want and it'll be a nice pendulum. Cake to push one way or another for them. Problem is, who/whatever is controlling the offered rewards, whether it be RNG or actual people, is giving better rewards to the Grineer. That, coupled with the Harvester problem, creates a large imbalance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaresin Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) your wrong everyone is going for Detron so they dont care about anything else and basicaly Always will be grineer who wins they WONT change it back becaus of the Harvester They will in all likelihood introduce a greneer equivalent. They prob are seeing how this one goes before doing that. Its what I would do before adding the second half of the experiment. You never jump in feet first, you test the waters. Spec since once they add the second half, the resources will be jumping around so that requires players to react to that (edit: can cause issues to new players if they are unfamiliar with the invasion mechanic). Just my two cents. Edited January 26, 2014 by Zaresin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaresin Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Problem is, who/whatever is controlling the offered rewards, whether it be RNG or actual people, is giving better rewards to the Grineer. That, coupled with the Harvester problem, creates a large imbalance. Ive been seeing corpus with better rewards so been going for them cause I want those cells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Monarch Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 so as the title says, i think we should let one side, the closer side, the grineer take over the ENTIRE starchart and see how DE responds, and see when will they come out and admit the invasion system currently is a flawed system. and yes, im aware boss nodes cant be taken over or invaded, but that leaves only...6 corpus nodes on the entire starchart. and before people say loyalty or whatever, this shouldnt be about which faction you prefer to support, but about getting DE to admit the invasion system is a flawed system and a failed experiment. I think we're getting there. Seeing as how Detron are affecting players that were originally loyal to Corpus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temfist Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) so as the title says, i think we should let one side, the closer side, the grineer take over the ENTIRE starchart and see how DE responds, and see when will they come out and admit the invasion system currently is a flawed system. and yes, im aware boss nodes cant be taken over or invaded, but that leaves only...6 corpus nodes on the entire starchart. and before people say loyalty or whatever, this shouldnt be about which faction you prefer to support, but about getting DE to admit the invasion system is a flawed system and a failed experiment. until DE release a Grineer version of the Harvester that drops the Brakk, we are well on our way to seeing this happen.....I'm not kidding. (P.S. Corpus need to start offering Mutagen Masses and Detonite, cause they are getting hammered in the Mat vs. Credits department when compared to what the Grineer offer) Edited January 26, 2014 by Temphis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLucifer Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Boss nodes are never invaded, outside events anyway, so we would never be 100% grineer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khranitel Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 so as the title says, i think we should let one side, the closer side, the grineer take over the ENTIRE starchart and see how DE responds, and see when will they come out and admit the invasion system currently is a flawed system. and yes, im aware boss nodes cant be taken over or invaded, but that leaves only...6 corpus nodes on the entire starchart. and before people say loyalty or whatever, this shouldnt be about which faction you prefer to support, but about getting DE to admit the invasion system is a flawed system and a failed experiment. The butthurt is strong in this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonvision Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 Boss nodes are never invaded, outside events anyway, so we would never be 100% grineer. funny, cuz i already mentioned that in the OP. The butthurt is strong in this one. i might be butthurt but steve agrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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