-CM-Sean Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 just a simple pole about what people think about the the topic that's been debated TO DEATH. But perhaps a poll can help the developers. http://strawpoll.me/1231707 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IIJetfireII Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Don't think that's necessary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted.Oreo Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) I actually think they should bring it back to full duration OR make it without duration and only HP Edited February 28, 2014 by Shinzo.K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoidPunch Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) No. Maybe a buff, such as taking frost's armor or something but not changed back. Edited February 28, 2014 by HandsOfnArtist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulzscha Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Moved to the proper section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se05239 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyunsai Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Frost is my new main frame since the "nerf", 3 formas on it. I don't care about the Globe, just don't touch the new Avalanche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIREEK Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Sure, just nerf to other 3 abilities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salenstormwing Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 This isn't Turtleframe. No hiding in your invincible ice bubbles... unless we let the devs start equipping enemies with SHRED and METAL AUGER mods in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CM-Sean Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 Frost is my new main frame since the "nerf", 3 formas on it. I don't care about the Globe, just don't touch the new Avalanche. Lol so you're indirectly saying you don't care about the globe cause it doesn't work!!!!? Or you never cared? Sorta confused lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) it should be tweaked, not reverted. the changes are healthy for Warframe, but the numbers aren't perfect. edit: also, polls are usually very inaccurate. a lot easier to put in 'troll' responses to a faceless poll. Edited February 28, 2014 by taiiat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CM-Syein Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Yes, globe should be change back the way it was. Or, replace frost's 2nd skill similar to the ice passage in void where it slow down the enemies (as well as yourself)!? affect by duration. I never like poll anyway. Given the low number of participants, which mean 2-3 trolls alone could make the whole poll on their side. Poll only useful if a huge numbers of people participate in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tris1 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 either changed back or a bigger buff than just armour rating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CM-Sean Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 Yes, globe should be change back the way it was. Or, replace frost's 2nd skill similar to the ice passage in void where it slow down the enemies (as well as yourself)!? affect by duration. I never like poll anyway. Given the low number of participants, which mean 2-3 trolls alone could make the whole poll on their side. Poll only useful if a huge numbers of people participate in it. I'm sure if the thread got more exposure there would be a lot more people voting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatchias Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I think it does need to be changed, but not exactly to what it used to be. With the old one you could just stay inside and be safe for hours (minus the Bombard's and Napalm's explosion radius which can hit you while inside the globe) and with the new one it goes down in seconds on the higher levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CM-Sean Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 well poll helps a little bit get a good sense of things. and this poll site prevents double votes, unless you really want to go to different ip addresses and vote for things. Which is ridiculous, and complete wast of time. In any case i think its better than a back and forth arguments over 10's of pages and 100's of threads, which in the end provide no good feedback but just going back and forth between a few people. Atleast with a poll people can come vote and leave. there are a lot of safe and free poll's that you can use, its really not as troll able as one might think. Strawpoll seems to be relatively reliable and prevents double votes pretty effectively. As long as we get exposure to more of the warframe community, even the outliers in the voting will not matter. It's just that this thread is hidden in like 4 level deep, and barely get any exposure to many many users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gault_Siebers Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) If they just extend the duration to 60 seconds I'd be fine. And everyone who voted yes needs to think hard to themselves about why AN INVINCIBLE BUBBLE MIGHT BE A LITTLE OVERPOWERED. Edited March 1, 2014 by Gault_Siebers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZephyrPhantom Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) Yes, it should be changed back; the "invincible globe" only holds water for so long until enemies start running inside it (which actually happens pretty often), at which point you're either going to show some skill and kill everything inside the globe or get roflstomped by lasers/shockwaves/rockets/etc... It's also worth noting a globe can't move with you (unlike Iron Skin, Hysteria, or Blessing), meaning that if you're not playing Defense you need to recast the globe much more or build towards Avalanche anyway. Edited March 1, 2014 by ZephyrPhantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 This isn't Turtleframe. No hiding in your invincible ice bubbles... unless we let the devs start equipping enemies with SHRED and METAL AUGER mods in return. I take it that you've never fought railgun MOAs before. Or had a Grineer Napalm shoot the edge of the globe and hit everyone inside with his enormous splash damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaman1994 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 What is even the difference? All I can tell from Frost 2.0 is that Ice Wave and Avalanche are a hell of a lot more effective...and Snow Globe has a timer attached, like all other duration powers. Can someone, please, explain it to me? In fact, explain Freeze's difference too, because that's the one I'm actually upset about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatchias Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 What is even the difference? All I can tell from Frost 2.0 is that Ice Wave and Avalanche are a hell of a lot more effective...and Snow Globe has a timer attached, like all other duration powers. Can someone, please, explain it to me? In fact, explain Freeze's difference too, because that's the one I'm actually upset about. I don't know about the other powers, but Frost's Snowglobe now has a health bar, a health bar that is far too low to deal with anything high level, or what counts as endgame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubbi Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I say yes. Snow globe wasn't OP. It had its downsides but it was still good enough for endgame. I say change it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerokiss Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 In my opinion: Frost has reached his peak in uselessness. The snowglobe nerf outweighs avalanche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CM-Sean Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 In my opinion: Frost has reached his peak in uselessness. The snowglobe nerf outweighs avalanche I never though avalanche was bad, and I don't think its bad right now. never though the other abilities were bad either. I actually did like the old animation better, but that's just personal preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) Buff to make it usefull vs lvl40 enemies (thats pretty much the highest level you will ever need to play, including void, excluding few wild alerts) if DE cant do that - revert (and return to it later, when really OP abilities get balanced) Edited March 2, 2014 by Monolake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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