Virtus_Dei_Est Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Hello everyone, i did not know to what category this belong, hopefully a mod will assign it to the proper one. is simple and short, as we can use inmortal skins as a complement on prime warframes, can DE allow the players to use the weapon skins that we bought, in the prime counterparts? not changing the gold trim or the design, but being in there as an added feature, just as the inmortal skins in prime warframes. i bought all the skin bundles so far, but is nonsense in my opinion to keep a weapon only to being able to use the skin for it, if i already have a prime version. not to mention that the wraith versions already lets you choose beetwen a skin or the wraith variant. is just a matter of convenience, and the skins being for plat at the moment, DE would do a big favor to let the players use their skins on primes and not to be burdened with inferior versions just to see the skins they bought. just that, thanks for reading. PS: also i would love to have fully customizable colors in inmortal skins and helmets, but thats is fuel for another post i suppose. Edited March 12, 2014 by omega_phoenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPeanut Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I thought they said somewhere they were working on this... I'm not too sure, but I do know that the problem is pretty much that the prime weapons use a different model than the non prime ones, unlike the Warframes who use the same model, but with added gold. Because of this, when you try to put the same skin meant for a different model on the weapon, it's all stretched and weird. They might be working on it, but it likely won't be done for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbister Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Read this thread that i created and the answer i got and you will understand the sarcasm of the guy that posted before. https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/186361-oberon-immortal-skin/#entry2172179 a sneak peak: Right now, most of the art-focused Devs are focused on Melee 2.0, which they want to get out as soon as possible, so some other issues have fallen on the backburner for the moment. Edited March 12, 2014 by Orbister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibliothekar Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Problem I see here: Wraith and Vandal are just variants of the normal weapon. So it's no big deal to allow switching their skins. Prime frames aren't much different to their standard counterpart, either. Some gold trimming and a different helmet (which is not affected by the skin!), and that's it. But Prime weapons look completely different to the standard variant. So to allow the use of standard weapon skins on Prime weapons, you'd have to rework all of them. And even if DE did this ... well, they'd probably sell you an additional bundle of Prime skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtus_Dei_Est Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 thanks for the answers, also everything seems logical. as for myself i guess ill refrain buying new skins until some of this is adressed, and is a shame, but until somethingis done i have no use for tenno weapons skins, now that we have a solid prime rooster available. welp, time to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Draice Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 There are no plans to support additional skins on Prime Weapons at this time. The main reason being that the mesh for the Prime variations is usually modified, so skins that work on the standard guns will not wrap correctly around them. We would need to create a unique alternative skin for them. Lore-wise, these weapons are the predecessors of the standard weapons. It does not really make sense that the Ancient Orokins planned on supporting skins for their technology developed by their Tenno ancestors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerrien Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 There are no plans to support additional skins on Prime Weapons at this time. The main reason being that the mesh for the Prime variations is usually modified, so skins that work on the standard guns will not wrap correctly around them. We would need to create a unique alternative skin for them. Lore-wise, these weapons are the predecessors of the standard weapons. It does not really make sense that the Ancient Orokins planned on supporting skins for their technology developed by their Tenno ancestors. Understable. But given Tenno are parasites, wouldn't they spray on some sick Vandal logos and call it a day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7Arthur Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 There are no plans to support additional skins on Prime Weapons at this time. The main reason being that the mesh for the Prime variations is usually modified, so skins that work on the standard guns will not wrap correctly around them. We would need to create a unique alternative skin for them. Lore-wise, these weapons are the predecessors of the standard weapons. It does not really make sense that the Ancient Orokins planned on supporting skins for their technology developed by their Tenno ancestors. So is this no longer valid ( )? Steve said that they were planning on doing it. Even if new new skins aren't made for the Prime versions, at least allow the skin to still work, and just change the model to the original weapon's, so a Paris Prime, with the Paris skin, would just look like a Paris, same with the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminide Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 There are no plans to support additional skins on Prime Weapons at this time. The main reason being that the mesh for the Prime variations is usually modified, so skins that work on the standard guns will not wrap correctly around them. We would need to create a unique alternative skin for them. Lore-wise, these weapons are the predecessors of the standard weapons. It does not really make sense that the Ancient Orokins planned on supporting skins for their technology developed by their Tenno ancestors. The tenno were the orokin's ancestors? Didn't know, I thought primes were the original designs for the weapons the tenno attempted to replicate from the orokin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtus_Dei_Est Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 There are no plans to support additional skins on Prime Weapons at this time. The main reason being that the mesh for the Prime variations is usually modified, so skins that work on the standard guns will not wrap correctly around them. We would need to create a unique alternative skin for them. Lore-wise, these weapons are the predecessors of the standard weapons. It does not really make sense that the Ancient Orokins planned on supporting skins for their technology developed by their Tenno ancestors. welp, thanks for the answer. no more skins for me then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibliothekar Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 The tenno were the orokin's ancestors? I guess, he meant descendants, not ancestors ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noogums Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 There are no plans to support additional skins on Prime Weapons at this time. The main reason being that the mesh for the Prime variations is usually modified, so skins that work on the standard guns will not wrap correctly around them. We would need to create a unique alternative skin for them. Lore-wise, these weapons are the predecessors of the standard weapons. It does not really make sense that the Ancient Orokins planned on supporting skins for their technology developed by their Tenno ancestors. Thanks for this, Draice. Now I can properly deal with threads on this subject matter in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobsplosion Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 There are no plans to support additional skins on Prime Weapons at this time. The main reason being that the mesh for the Prime variations is usually modified, so skins that work on the standard guns will not wrap correctly around them. We would need to create a unique alternative skin for them. Lore-wise, these weapons are the predecessors of the standard weapons. It does not really make sense that the Ancient Orokins planned on supporting skins for their technology developed by their Tenno ancestors. Would it at least be possible to get the Phased Ankyros skin working with the Ankyros Prime?Their models are very, very similar, and it's been something I was hoping for since I picked up the skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr4p Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 As I posted in another thread on this topic: This is actually the reason I just don't bother buying the weapon skins. As it stands now, primes are always better versions of the weapon, so you don't tend to use the regular version once you have the prime, but skins don't work on the primes, so I don't use the skins, so they end up being a waste of platinum. :/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/191382-cant-use-skins-on-the-boltor-prime-anymore/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtus_Dei_Est Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 As I posted in another thread on this topic: This is actually the reason I just don't bother buying the weapon skins. As it stands now, primes are always better versions of the weapon, so you don't tend to use the regular version once you have the prime, but skins don't work on the primes, so I don't use the skins, so they end up being a waste of platinum. :/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/191382-cant-use-skins-on-the-boltor-prime-anymore/ indeed, a shame i already did that mistake =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza1234 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) They should really get a move on with being able to use different skins for primes, even if it just means switching the model. I really dont like the way that the gold coloring prime warframes and weapons looks, so I'd like the option to essentially downgrade to the original non-prime version of how a warframe or weapon looks, or upgrade to a purchased skin. Edited March 12, 2014 by Urza1234 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbister Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 They should really get a move on with being able to use different skins for primes, even if it just means switching the model. I really dont like the way that the gold coloring prime warframes and weapons looks, so I'd like the option to essentially downgrade to the original non-prime version of how a warframe or weapon looks, or upgrade to a purchased skin. why not use a forma to get that extra polarity on your regular frame, wouldn't that be the same?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza1234 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 why not use a forma to get that extra polarity on your regular frame, wouldn't that be the same?... Yeah, thats what I end up doing with frames. To be honest I this problem didnt apply to frames for me until just recently. I had so many mag prime parts from farming other things I decided to build one, realized after it was done how much I hated the way it looks. I can always just go farm an actual mag, so its no big deal with frames I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garth_Tremor Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 There are no plans to support additional skins on Prime Weapons at this time. The main reason being that the mesh for the Prime variations is usually modified, so skins that work on the standard guns will not wrap correctly around them. We would need to create a unique alternative skin for them. Lore-wise, these weapons are the predecessors of the standard weapons. It does not really make sense that the Ancient Orokins planned on supporting skins for their technology developed by their Tenno ancestors. So Tenno are unable to spray some paint over them? Still I appreciate the post. Understanable that each new skins takes some time to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble_Cactus Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) Darn. I was kind of hoping I'd be reunited with my regular Paris once more by using a Paris model on the Prime version. Oh well. Edited March 13, 2014 by Noble_Cactus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbister Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Yeah, thats what I end up doing with frames. To be honest I this problem didnt apply to frames for me until just recently. I had so many mag prime parts from farming other things I decided to build one, realized after it was done how much I hated the way it looks. I can always just go farm an actual mag, so its no big deal with frames I guess. yea i had a very similar thought a couple of days ago, instead of going for frost prime ill go for regular frost which gives in my opinion much more room for visual customization and ill drop a forma if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Draice Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I guess, he meant descendants, not ancestors ... I did mean descendants, sorry! Thanks for the catch, Bibliothekar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llyssa Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 To clarify to the guy who posted the livestream link: At the time, you could equip skins on your regular weapons, as well as on your primes. However, it ended up looking horrible on your primes, as they were not properly laid out. The ultimate decision was to abandon the project entirely and make it impossible to equip skins on anything but the base weapon,as it was too difficult to make it work out right. Not the solution we're all hoping for, but technically it is an answer to the problem of "the skins don't work(ie. are broken) on primes". Sorry. =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza1234 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) Honestly I'm kind of disappointed that this hasnt been fixed yet, considering that all DE would have to do is change their menus a bit, literally all the assets needed already exist. Not that I'm suggesting that they're lazy, just that they either must not know how many people are bothered by this issue. Edited March 16, 2014 by Noogums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtus_Dei_Est Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) Honestly I'm kind of disappointed that this hasnt been fixed yet, considering that all DE would have to do is change their menus a bit, literally all the assets needed already exist. Not that I'm suggesting that they're lazy, just that they either must not know how many people are bothered by this issue. i believe they just dont care, they prefer to release a new bundle of skins for prime weapons instead of fixing the old ones (even they could allow you to use the regular look of the weapon when you select the skin, is also a new way of selling these skins, to choose the regular look or the prime look, as i hate the orthos prime design, so i would be happy to have the stats of the pime but being able to select the regular look). Is no a good choice as developers, as for myself ill never buy another skin for weapons seeing this, shame i did not know before. also the prime frames can use inmortal skins, so there ends the explanation about lore to not being able to adapt the skins to prime weapon models. all around is not the answer i was looking for, but as a customer my only choice in this point is to refrain to make the same mistake twice. Edited March 16, 2014 by Noogums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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