The Perfect Ignis Vs. Corpus Build

[Darzk]

Okay, so me and a buddy have an Ignis with basically the same Formas, and 6 stars.

 

We both use it primarily for Infested, and really long Corpus survivals where we dont want to risk killing ourselves with Penta... We were arguing about the optimal Corpus build and it kinda... snowballed. Turned into a couple of hours of throwing numbers around and calculating dps at various enemy types...

 

Anyhow, we worked it out, but I figured it'd be good to post the results here (and math in spoilers).

 

The Builds:

#1 - 220% Radiation + 150% Toxin utility build: http://goo.gl/lLsXJC [has +20 ammo/clip and +9.5% status/sec]

#2 - 280% Radiation + 150% Toxin damage build: http://goo.gl/dQuQd5

#3 - 240% Magnetic + 190% Fire damage build: http://goo.gl/Nv74Eq

#4 - 240% Magnetic + 100% Fire range build: http://goo.gl/OR6ulX [Has Firestorm, +24% range]

No Ammo Mutation, as we don't mind dropping ammo restores (and I still have a few hundred ammo boxes rofl)

 

The Builds Raw DPS

#1 Isolated Toxin /w Proc Chance: http://goo.gl/ZqJHde

245.3 Rad (220%)

167.3 Toxin (+150%)

22% status (37.5% with MS) per second/tick

120 ammo magazine (+20%)

 

Toxin only:

167.3 * 1.5 = 251 DPS to health

167.3 * .75 = 125.5 DPS to robotic

 

Both:

Check: Rad @ 184 DPS to Shields

496.3 DPS to health

432.1 DPS to robots

 

#2 Isolated Toxin, more Rad dmg:  http://goo.gl/dQuQd5

312.3 Rad (280%)

167.3 Toxin (+150%)

16% status (28% with MS) per second/tick

 

Toxin only:

167.3 * 1.5 = 251 DPS to health

167.3 * .75 = 125.5 DPS to robotic

 

Both:

Check: Rad @ 234.2 DPS to Shields

563.3 DPS to health

515.9 DPS to robotic

 

#3 Magnetic/Fire: http://goo.gl/yDe7zK

267.6 Magnetic (+240%)

211.9 Heat (190%)

16% status (28% with MS) per second/tick

 

574.3 to proto shields

613.3 to shields

479.5 to health/robotic

 

#4 Magnetic/Fire with Firestorm: http://goo.gl/OR6ulX

267.6 Magnetic (+240%)

111.5 Heat (100%)

16% status (28% with MS) per second/tick [+24% range]

 

551.9 to proto shields

579.8 to shields

379.1 to health/robotic

 

DPS vs. different Corpus Enemies

Moa

60 robotic, 150 Shield

=28.5% robotic, 71.5% shield

#1/2 Toxin only

125.5/.285 = 440.3 EDPS

 

#1 Both

Check: .815 sec to break shields, toxin has done 102.3 dmg, Moa is dead, can’t use both to compare.

 

#2 Both

Check: .64 sec to break shields, toxin has done 80 dmg, Moa is dead.

 

#3 Mag/Fire

613.3*.715 + 479.5*.285 = 575.2 DPS

 

#4 Mag/Fire

579.8*.715 + 379.1*.285 = 522.6 DPS

 

Crewmen

60 health, 150 shield

=28.5% health, 71.5% shield

 

#1/2 Toxin only

251/.285 = 880.7 EDPS

 

#1 Both

Check; 0.815 sec to break shields, toxin has done 204.5 health damage, Crewman is dead

 

#2 Both

Check; .64 sec to break shields, toxin has done 160 health damage, crewmen is dead

 

#3 Mag/Fire

613.3*.715 + 479.5*.285 = 575.2 DPS

 

#4 Mag/Fire with Firestorm

579.8*.715 + 379.1*.285 = 522.6 DPS

 

Corpus Tech

700 health, 250 proto shield

=73.5% health, 26.5% proto shield

 

#1 Both

Check: Rad @ 245.3 DPS = 1.02 sec to break shields, toxin has done 256 robotic damage

444 health remains

496.3 DPS to 444 health = 0.89 sec

=1.91 sec to do 950 dmg = ~497.4 DPS

 

#2 Both

Check: Rad @ 312.3 DPS = 0.8 sec to break shields, toxin has done 100.5 robotic damage

599.5 health remains, @ 563.3 DPS to health = 1.06 sec

=1.86 sec to do 950 dmg = 510.75 DPS

 

#3 Mag/Fire

574.3*.265 + 479.5*.735 = 504.622 DPS

 

#4 Mag/Fire with Firestorm

551.9*.265 + 379.1*.735 = 424.9 DPS

 

Fusion Moa

250 robotic, 250 shield

=50% robotic, 50% shield

 

#1 Both

Check: 1.35 sec to break shields, toxin has done 169.4 damage

80.6 hp remains, @ 432.1 DPS to robotic = 0.18 sec

1.53 sec to do 500 damage = 326.8 DPS

 

#2 Both

Check: 1.07 sec to break shields, toxin has done 134 dmg to robotic

116 hp left @ 515.9 DPS = .22 sec

1.29 sec to do 500 dmg = 387.6 DPS

 

#3 Mag/Fire

613.3*.5+479.5*5 = 546.4 DPS

 

#4 Mag/Fire with Firestorm

579.8*.5 + 379.1*.5 = 479.5 DPS

 

Oxium Osprey

750 robotic, 150 shield

= 83.5% robotic, 16.5% shield

 

#1 Both

Check: 0.81 sec to break shields, toxin has done 102.3 dmg to robotic

647.7 robotic remains, @ 432.1 DPS to robotic = 1.5 sec

2.31 sec to do 900 damage = 389.6 DPS

 

#2 Both

Check: 0.64 sec to break shields, toxin has done 80.4 dmg to robotic

669.6 robotic remains, @ 515.9 DPS = 1.29 sec

1.93 sec to do 900 dmg = 446.3 DPS

 

#3 Mag/Fire

613.3*.165 + 479.5*.835 = 501.6 DPS

#4 Mag/Fire with Firestorm

579.8*.165 + 379.1*.835 = 412.2 DPS

 

The Results:

RESULTS

 

Moas

#1: 440.3 EDPS

#2: 440.3 EDPS

#3: 575.2 DPS

#4: 522.6 DPS

 

Crewmen

#1: 880.7 EDPS

#2: 880.7 EDPS

#3: 575.2 DPS

#3: 522.6 DPS

 

Corpus Tech

#1: 497.4 DPS

#2: 510.8 DPS

#3: 504.6 DPS

#4: 424.9 DPS

 

Fusion Moa

#1: 326.8 DPS

#2: 387.6 DPS

#3: 546.4 DPS

#4: 479.5 DPS

 

Oxium Osprey

#1: 389.6 DPS

#2: 446.3 DPS

#3: 501.6 DPS

#4: 412.2 DPS

 

And Average DPS, which isnt weighted for enemy type composition so should only be used to compare vs same elemental type:

Average DPS

#1: 526.96 DPS (1.15% less DPS than #2, but gains 20 ammo/clip and 9.5% status/sec)

#2: 533.14 DPS

#3: 540.6 DPS

#4: 472.4 DPS (12.6% less DPS than #3, but gains 24% range)

 

 

Soooo yeah.

 

Toxin good for Crewmen and Techs, but not great against Moa's and friggin' Oxium Ospreys will just ignore you.

Might as well build status/+clip tho, as its only a tiny dps loss, and most noticeable against Oxium Ospreys, which you cant kill effectively anyways. The extra toxin procs probably make up the DPS loss.

 

Mag/Fire works best for robots, slightly slower kills against Crewmen. Better overall as imo robots are tougher than crewmen.

 

Equipping Firestorm in the Mag/Fire build is an average 12.6% DPS loss. Don't think it's worth it, personally.

 

 

Now that I've done this for Ignis, which basically no one uses, I really need to go back and take a look at the generic weapon situation... I just don't want to. :'(

Edited March 18, 2014 by Darzk

[Klazik]

The only reason I would dust off my Ignis, would be to play Ember. Since she can boost its damage 5.7 times if you stick to pure fire. Far better dps than any other combo.

[Briareos]

Equipping Firestorm in the Mag/Fire build is an average 12.6% DPS loss. Don't think it's worth it, personally.

 

 

I've been looking for things to do with my Ignis besides blasting Infested, I might try some of these.

 

As for Firestorm, you'll take a DPS hit but you'll be able to get a lot more targets in your AoE which will effectively boost your DPS since you'll be doing full damage to more targets at a time. That really helps for the big crowds at higher levels.

[Darzk]

Now that I've done this for Ignis, which basically no one uses, I really need to go back and take a look at the generic weapon situation... I just don't want to. :'(

 

And I did.

 

https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/195611-toxin-vs-magnetic-against-corpus-updated-with-tethra/

[-FV-Runehawk]

A while back, I didn't know any better and just slapped Magnetic damage on all my anti-Corpus gear. I learned my lesson, and as an avid Ignis-user myself, I thank you highly for the numbers and information.