NinjaTyr Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 She is the best tank in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega224 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 people aren't used to the armor tank idea and she didn't work well till they buffed her armor twice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quan256 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Trinity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)fingernageldreck Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 She was released too early... If she came out after melee 2.0 with just a few combos it could have been fun, but her punching animation(hysteria) makes me wanna sell the frame everytime i have to see it again when i give her another try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittyDarkling Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Trinity is in desperate need of a nerf, yes :D the invincibility should be locked to a set unchangeable duration, not scaling into infinity. She is the best tank in the game. I'd actually agree that she's a great warframe. The fact that she's 100% invincible durring her ult is kinda meh but I enjoy her with a reduced a duration build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaTyr Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 She was released too early... If she came out after melee 2.0 with just a few combos it could have been fun, but her punching animation(hysteria) makes me wanna sell the frame everytime i have to see it again when i give her another try. Honestly if you need Hysteria for more than healing you need a better gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)fingernageldreck Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Honestly if you need Hysteria for more than healing you need a better gun. Ok if i use her rage mode as a simple healing, why should i pick her and not trinity? Makes no sense to me dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaTyr Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 people aren't used to the armor tank idea and she didn't work well till they buffed her armor twice Yeah, but a lot of people play like they are a tank. I see many people stopping to take easy shots. Trinity Wouldn't call her a tank but you can use her in a similar way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAYABU5A Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 because being a tank is so helpful for a team isnt it ? being a tank brings so much aoe damage and debuffs and crowd control and invul/healing oh wait.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyDragon Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 The reason she is hated is because in its current state, even with her ult being buffed. Melee is an unrewarding and borderline useless feature. Its clear it was a tacked on mechanic and only suffered as development progressed. Almost every heavy enemy that exists punishes you for being near, even the smaller ones do. But if melee 2.0 doesn't somehow trip over its own feet out the gate, she may become very fun. May being the operative word. At the moment its like "hammer E to do damage" and then missing because melee is wonky as hell in hit detection anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaTyr Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 Ok if i use her rage mode as a simple healing, why should i pick her and not trinity? Makes no sense to me dude 80% damage mitigation, with steel fiber she basically has 4k health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriviagene Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I don't understand why ppl hate her :/ She's a tank frame with nice mobility(spiderwoman),speed+armor buff(what can be better?),spammable stun,and wolverine mode...so,what the hell is wrong with her? :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyDragon Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 80% damage mitigation, with steel fiber she basically has 4k health. Trinity: 100% damage mitigation, Ignore need for health pool. Covers entire party, so its a party wide damage mitigator that heals shields and health. Can be boosted significantly with duration mods. Likely to be left alone for as long as possible because many buy formas to get her capable of doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaTyr Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 because being a tank is so helpful for a team isnt it ? being a tank brings so much aoe damage and debuffs and crowd control and invul/healing oh wait.. Maybe you dont play with good tanks. I usually jump in the middle of all the enemies and draw all the attention to me while killing everyone I come across. Like I said before, if you need abilities for DPS you are using a S#&$y gun. Not saying there isnt some good DPS abilities but for the most part cant compete with a decent gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kloaked Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Be careful with calling a Warframe a "tank". It may rustle some jimmies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaTyr Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 Trinity: 100% damage mitigation, Ignore need for health pool. Covers entire party, so its a party wide damage mitigator that heals shields and health. Can be boosted significantly with duration mods. Likely to be left alone for as long as possible because many buy formas to get her capable of doing so. Yeah but if you F*** up just once with her and run out of energy you are #*($%%@, she is beyond squishy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaTyr Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 Be careful with calling a Warframe a "tank". It may rustle some jimmies. She obviously is all defensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyDragon Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 (edited) Yeah but if you F*** up just once with her and run out of energy you are #*($%%@, she is beyond squishy. Same can be said for valk. By the time thing get that bad for trin, valks armor is pointless. Valkyr's ult is also kinda meh, it robs her of the potential to retaliate with range. You lock yourself into mediocrity just so you can be invincible. Edited March 15, 2014 by Nariala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaTyr Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 The reason she is hated is because in its current state, even with her ult being buffed. Melee is an unrewarding and borderline useless feature. Its clear it was a tacked on mechanic and only suffered as development progressed. Almost every heavy enemy that exists punishes you for being near, even the smaller ones do. But if melee 2.0 doesn't somehow trip over its own feet out the gate, she may become very fun. May being the operative word. At the moment its like "hammer E to do damage" and then missing because melee is wonky as hell in hit detection anyways. I dont have much trouble with her melee, the problem is you are spaming the "e" key, you need to enable auto follow on melee and dont spam "e". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyDragon Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I dont have much trouble with her melee, the problem is you are spaming the "e" key, you need to enable auto follow on melee and dont spam "e". Play valkyr, don't spam melee. Pick one. Auto Follow isn't 100% reliable. Damage is subpar. Scales poorly, You end up just being good at not dying, and eventually not contributing. Regardless of anything else, she is just hated simply because she has a very specific strategy, and that strategy is only good for low level content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)fingernageldreck Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 80% damage mitigation, with steel fiber she basically has 4k health. Again if you want to keep using your weapon trinity works better. 100% damage reduction for you and your team. So a tank should prevent that the team takes damage iirc. Valkyrs abilities are not that great for this task. Trinity makes sure noone takes damage=the better tank. And again if you only use her ult as healing it should tell you how broken that feature is, she is a melee based berserker and you talk about better guns. So there is clearly something wrong, but lets hope with melee 2.0 they gonna add a later fix for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaTyr Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 Same can be said for valk. By the time thing get that bad for trin, valks armor is pointless. Valkyr's ult is also kinda meh, it robs her of the potential to retaliate with range. You lock yourself into mediocrity just so you can be invincible. Nope, with a trin if you get your energy drained you usually are #*($%%@. While if you are valkyr you can dodge and use cover well enough to keep yourself alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaTyr Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 Play valkyr, don't spam melee. Pick one. Auto Follow isn't 100% reliable. Damage is subpar. Scales poorly, You end up just being good at not dying, and eventually not contributing. Regardless of anything else, she is just hated simply because she has a very specific strategy, and that strategy is only good for low level content. Jesus christ, am I the only one who can play Valkyr and not die?, I usually have trouble finding people to keep up with me usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyDragon Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 (edited) Nope, with a trin if you get your energy drained you usually are #*($%%@. While if you are valkyr you can dodge and use cover well enough to keep yourself alive. How far have you played in this game by chance? It sounds a lot like you've been sticking around Jupiter Sedna tier content. Jesus christ, am I the only one who can play Valkyr and not die?, I usually have trouble finding people to keep up with me usually. Once again, she is very good at survival, very bad at everything else. Edited March 15, 2014 by Nariala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaTyr Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 Again if you want to keep using your weapon trinity works better. 100% damage reduction for you and your team. So a tank should prevent that the team takes damage iirc. Valkyrs abilities are not that great for this task. Trinity makes sure noone takes damage=the better tank. And again if you only use her ult as healing it should tell you how broken that feature is, she is a melee based berserker and you talk about better guns. So there is clearly something wrong, but lets hope with melee 2.0 they gonna add a later fix for her. But with trin its an ability by itself that makes her even playable, soon as she is out of energy she is #*($%%@ and has no chance to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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