Thundersquid Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Let me first say that i really appreciate the DEV team expanding the trading system and that I really enjoy that you can now trade for prime pieces and such...However there in lies a problem for many players. I know farming is annoying and un-fun but honestly it will save you alot more trouble than the ridiculously crappy market ruled by children (from what it seems like). I have been monitoring the trading channel for about 2 weeks for about 5-10min a day just kind of watching whats going on and butting out tests and offers to see whats going on and have been really frustrated with the results. Short and sweet.....people are extorting the market for their gain and forcing new players to pay ridiculous amounts for plat for tiny pieces of warfarmes and guns. New players may get taken in by the appeal of the primes but for the most degree they are only slight damage increases of their non-prime gun counterparts and the warframes are nothing special at all other than 1 more polarity and a tiny cosmetic change. Players can get the same piece they want with alittle more farming or even a forma or two which will cost you way less than the "going rate" for most of the stuff on the market. A regular warframe is about 200-230 plat and im being asked to pay 150 for a prime piece?.....that is ridiculous. Please people, dont pay that for pieces and dont bend to that level of immaturity when it comes to the trading channel. Pieces should be going for 50 or less plat and only the blueprint should be going for 100-120. Adding its all up at each piece at 50 and the BP for 120 comes out to be 270.....which is reasonable as your gonna pay a tiny extra to skip the hours of farming. But 150 piece?....that is 600 plat at least and not a single warframe or prime item is worth that much....EVER!!! You can get the same exact warframe for loads less than what people are asking and you can get a comparable weapon for alot less aswell. A good example of this is people who sell off rare mods for 1000 plat and then with alittle farming get them back so now there a people (i know a few) sitting with 10,000 plat and nothing to do but let it sit there and to me thats pretty stupid. So people and new players, please have some sense when trading or buying and if you've been frustrated by the lack of sense then sell with reasonable prices. Please dont be immature children and continue this pathetic pattern cuz its ruining the trading system and it is a poor reflection on your common sense. If the tables were flipped i dont think you would want to let 150 or more plat go for a single piece. There are a few things worth over 100 plat and they are maxed damage mods, multishot mods, and hammershot and primed chamber. Next time your trying to buy a prime piece and you see somebody ask for 150 plat....laugh them out the door and tell them to grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherIcarus Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 You expected any less? This is why trading should not be a thing or should be limited to clan only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brynslustafir Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Welcome to the World of Marketing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ov3rd0se Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 This is what I call Natural Selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhoyzu Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 You expected any less? This is why trading should not be a thing or should be limited to clan only. i concur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mandachordian-Tenno- Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 but then again, the people who were buying for highpriced stuff are probably sick of farming, andalso, the new players dont even know that where to get some prime parts and stuff, they ask region chat or something from which they get varied answers, they dont even know that there is even a wiki for the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WetAedeagus Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) I agree with the OP. Ingame trading is out of control. New players should buy from a local blackmarket hidden in a dark alleyway instead. It's much safer. Edited March 17, 2014 by SirAedeagus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Un1337ninj4 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) I agree with the OP. Ingame trading is out of control. New players should buy from a local blackmarket hidden in a dark alleyway instead. It's much safer. SirAedeagus, the Shrouded Nekros bringing you goodies since 20000 years after the Great Collapse. Edited March 17, 2014 by un1337ninj4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaftMeat Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 CAPITALISM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriKlein Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Trading chat in any MMO comes down to racketeering and scammers. Which is why they're avoided unless you're doing a massive item dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty5 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Parts that are hard to obtain go for more, when those parts are for a recent addition to the game, they go for more still. At least in terms of asking price. Since you've been watching for the time that rhino Prime has been out, the prices you see are grossly inflated, give it a month or two and things will be back to a more reasonable level. Supply and Demand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoracraft Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Umm... Don't mean to be rude, but where have you seen people selling pieces for 150p? In my region, at least, the most expensive prime parts are 50p, and that's only the new ones. I usually sell mine for 5-20p, but I wish I could get more for slots. Anyways, just take a different offer is my best advice on trading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veridantus Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) Unfortunately, This is basic economy..It's hardly immaturity. It's a question of profits.High demand + scarce supplies = explosive price range.The seller determine the prices & the buyer either agrees or disagrees.Once the buyers agrees, the market is set.The good thing is, once some people (reasonable people) put a waaay cheaper price (like 50-75 per piece),or once the hype died down, the market will reconsider it's overly expensive price & actually reduces it.But this won't happen anytime soon coz.. well.. profits.. Edited March 17, 2014 by Veridantus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyDragon Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 >I cant find the prime part I want/wont take the time to farm it up like everyone else >I want to buy the item with platinum >I am appalled that people would sell my desired new item for prices that I considere unreasonable. >start thread about this. /thread Time = money its an old concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaSnail Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 That's marketing for you. Look at any super market, you can see a pair of pants that'll be 20% off. All. The. Time. People would buy it because they'd think they bought a sweet pair of pants at a good price. That's how new players feel with prime gear, they see prime stuff as new beets or stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Lickingodliness Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 An auction house solves all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyDragon Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) An auction house solves all of this. An auction house would solve nothing. Inflation would happen, but with an auction house, metadata on market trends would become visible. Think you have a hard time getting things on the cheap now? Wait until people try to establish a base rate. Barter system is kinda meh, but it at least is faster to deflate/inflate than auctioning. That being said, I do support the notion of an auction house, as I enjoy riding those economies more. However, for the "casual' user, it may become an aggressive entity that shuts out "poor" players. Edited March 17, 2014 by Nariala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersquid Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 i dont expect any any less all im trying to do is help out people so that they dont get stuck in this bad system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakosta_Kai Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 An auction house would solve nothing. Inflation would happen, but with an auction house, metadata on market trends would become visible. Think you have a hard time getting things on the cheap now? Wait until people try to establish a base rate. Barter system is kinda meh, but it at least is faster to deflate/inflate than auctioning. This. Add to that the fact that we haven't seen the advent of rmt or Plat resellers and an auction house would definitely open the doors for that. I've already done my stint playing games with economies controlled by groups like that and would prefer not to repeat the experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llyssa Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Local trade channel is usually quite cheap. I've seen people selling "sets" for 50 plat or less... that is, they have all of the parts you need. So, it definitely varies by region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkoco Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 If don´t like the prices go and farm it. When you get the X part/bp, return to trading and sell it 50% cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyDragon Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 i dont expect any any less all im trying to do is help out people so that they dont get stuck in this bad system. The only advice I can give you is that if you don't want to spend a lot now. Wait till its not in demand and more of them become "available" prices will compete with each other and drive it down as the supply will outweigh the demand. Impatient people, the people this thread targets, are often far to impatient to think about this. Not that its a negative thing, they are fine in deciding that X amount of plat is worth this item. As once again, they are choosing to pay and bypass time needed to find those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)octus Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 the good thing about all of this is it doesn't really affect the gameplay. if people want to pay whatever they want you gotta just let them. hopefully they get smart and end up waiting for a better deal, but its just a game so don't stress about it. the best thing to do is trade your friends and help each other, at least you will feel good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthRevan84 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Ive sold multiple Rhino Prime BPs, Chassis and Boltor Prime BPs for 150-200 platnium depending on buyer because they are not only paying for the part of said item but also for the time i spent running 40-50 keys to get the parts to sell. Before you get all high and mighty about how much parts are selling for try farming them for awhile and see how much Time and Effort most farmers (not the resellers) are putting into gathering the parts. My time is money and i expect to be paid in kind for my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabadath5 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) I shall tell you something similar people tell me when I comment regarding the current market prices for certain weapons and warframes. Don't like the price?GRIND for it. Those that farm all those prime parts NEED TO EAT TOO you know. Edited March 17, 2014 by Cabadath5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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