Do Tenno Switch Gender?

[(PSN)Jonesie_78]

.... When they change warframes?

So what's people's understanding / explanation of when a Tenno switches between a male warframe (e.g Rhino) to a female Warframe (e.g Nyx), are they cross dressing or do they switch gender lol?!?!

I do think DE should work on the Tenno aspects of the game, fix continuity issues, give them some skills that unlock with mastery and also give us as a player a opportunity to connect with the Tenno rather than with the suit of armour he wears.

[BabyKurama]

Won't happen PC members have ask for it along time but DE is like NO

[Cemges]

They are childs and they are not aware of any sexual orientation. Their bodies are small and not specialized. They can fit into any warframe easily.

[(PSN)Jonesie_78]

It's odd, the Tenno ought to be the main focus for DE and as players we should treat guns, warframes etc as an extention of the Tenno.

[Jag272]

I believe it was explained by the devs at one point, though i might be making this up as my memory is hazy, that each warframe contains a different tenno so we effectively create a squad of tenno rather than a squad of warframes, presumably from the tenno we protect in cryopod defence. So a female frame such as ember contains a different tenno to a male frame such as loki, female and male tenno presumably. This also applies to all tenno as far as im aware, loki is a different tenno within his frame to rhino, though in theory the tenno could hop between frames like that i imagine, in our case however we just have squads of tenno.

 

Im pretty sure ive seen/heard a dev mention that at some point before but i cant remember when or where exactly so i could be talking crap.

[(PSN)Jonesie_78]

Ahhh thanks for the enlightenment!

Still think it would be better to have one Tenno though with a skills tree for advancement...

[SquirmyBurrito]

Won't happen PC members have ask for it along time but DE is like NO

 

Did you actually read the OP?

[Skynin]

They are childs and they are not aware of any sexual orientation. Their bodies are small and not specialized. They can fit into any warframe easily.

Nope and nope again. That sounds sooo weird

Read above :S

[Krotalon]

.... When they change warframes?

So what's people's understanding / explanation of when a Tenno switches between a male warframe (e.g Rhino) to a female Warframe (e.g Nyx), are they cross dressing or do they switch gender lol?!?!

I do think DE should work on the Tenno aspects of the game, fix continuity issues, give them some skills that unlock with mastery and also give us as a player a opportunity to connect with the Tenno rather than with the suit of armour he wears.

Firstly, the Tenno don't switch Warframe, as far as I know. When you change Warframe, you play with a different Tenno. It would be quite ridicolous to change from a Nyx "suit" to Rhino and viceversa.

Plus, your suggestion at the bottom is half the description of the incoming Focus system, so hold on and be patient, it will come.

Edited March 17, 2014 by Krotalon

[Tsoe]

.... When they change warframes?

So what's people's understanding / explanation of when a Tenno switches between a male warframe (e.g Rhino) to a female Warframe (e.g Nyx), are they cross dressing or do they switch gender lol?!?!

I do think DE should work on the Tenno aspects of the game, fix continuity issues, give them some skills that unlock with mastery and also give us as a player a opportunity to connect with the Tenno rather than with the suit of armour he wears.

 

  work in progress

[Adnihilon]

A squat of tenno? That doesnt make sense. I mean why would some bosses refer to you by a name if your a diffrent tenno do they all have the same name? And why would the stalker say hunt down rhino if you killed a boss with nova I doubt he would just blame another tenno. Seems also weird that if you have a squat of tenno at your disposal why would you just send in one? that just doesnt make sense.

[(PSN)Jonesie_78]

A squat of tenno? That doesnt make sense. I mean why would some bosses refer to you by a name if your a diffrent tenno do they all have the same name? And why would the stalker say hunt down rhino if you killed a boss with nova I doubt he would just blame another tenno. Seems also weird that if you have a squat of tenno at your disposal why would you just send in one? that just doesnt make sense.

Excellent points.

[tophungus]

Personally, I've settled on the following explanation:

 

The Tenno don't have gender at all.

 

Because they don't have physical bodies- a Warframe isn't a suit for a Tenno to wear, the 'frame is their actual physical body while a Tenno operates it. They don't don't wear a Warframe- they inhabit a Warframe.

 

This is why Tenno continue to rank up regardless of what 'frame they use, and why ranking multiple 'frames adds to their experience.

This is also why Warframes have different apparent genders without the Tenno needing to modify them.

 

Just my bit of fluff to explain the apparent problems and have a bit of fun with the situation.

[manole10]

Personally, I've settled on the following explanation:

 

.......

That's my take also. The Corpus proxies already establish something like this.

 

I wouldn't mind the "Tenno squad" variant either, but I prefer the "downloaded mind" thing.

[Liverslices]

They are childs and they are not aware of any sexual orientation. Their bodies are small and not specialized. They can fit into any warframe easily.

There is no lore to support this whatsoever.

 

 

Personally, I've settled on the following explanation:

 

The Tenno don't have gender at all.

 

Because they don't have physical bodies- a Warframe isn't a suit for a Tenno to wear, the 'frame is their actual physical body while a Tenno operates it. They don't don't wear a Warframe- they inhabit a Warframe.

 

This is why Tenno continue to rank up regardless of what 'frame they use, and why ranking multiple 'frames adds to their experience.

This is also why Warframes have different apparent genders without the Tenno needing to modify them.

 

Just my bit of fluff to explain the apparent problems and have a bit of fun with the situation.

Much more popular opinion. Alot of people think that tenno have become basically puddles of infested mush that fill frames. This does make sense, because phorid, lephantis, and the old golem could talk to tenno. Unfortunately DE has not really put very much lore into the game.

[Shifted]

I guess it's a mess now that there are a few different explanations of it.

 

From what I understand initially DE wanted the PLAYERS to BE Tenno (sort of how there are "Summoners" in LoL etc) and tried to work around letting us pick the gender we wanted (thus nyx being what once was female excalibur).

 

(Un)fortunately the idea was scrapped and instead DE started to work on the lore about each Tenno being a child that was affected by "void" and thus given different powers.

 

So essentially each Warframe is a different Tenno, and you just have to ignore the fact that you can switch frames and see two Embers in one game. (sort of how you can see two of the same vault hunters in Borderlands)

 

This creates ton of confusion but ultimately I believe it fits the game better.

[(PSN)Jonesie_78]

I'm not comfortable with a different Tenno for each warframe approach, we craft them at the end of the day and also where do cryopods fit in?

[Cemges]

There is no lore to support this whatsoever.

Much more popular opinion. Alot of people think that tenno have become basically puddles of infested mush that fill frames. This does make sense, because phorid, lephantis, and the old golem could talk to tenno. Unfortunately DE has not really put very much lore into the game.

Ember lore opens a possibility that they are in fact all children. Why do I think warframes are suit? Well. I got the idea from this:

"Your (warframe) warframe makes you slow and clumsy."

"This is your final warning (name). Leave this system at once!"

"Your (warframe) will look great hanging from my wall."

"I am waiting... you are no match for me!"

"I will reduce (clan) to ashes!"

"Your (weapon) isn't near as powerful enough to defeat me!"

"You hide behind that (warframe). Face me like a true warrior!"

"You just signed your death warrant, (name)!"

"Your (weapon) will make a nice trophy."

"Your (warframe) is no match for my advanced Orokin weaponry!"

"Having trouble hitting me?"

"You call yourself a warrior? Show some honor!"

Sounds like a warframe is a removable weapon to me.

Also if you think popular opininon is right, thats just a deception

You can't just call my opinion baseless.

Edited March 17, 2014 by Cemges

[(PSN)Eneokun]

A tenno is a soul. A warframe a hull. And Reb-.. the LOTUS is the Soul Reap-... KEEPER.

[Jag272]

I'm not comfortable with a different Tenno for each warframe approach, we craft them at the end of the day and also where do cryopods fit in?

I believe the way its meant to be is that the Cryopods contain the Tenno with their powers and that the frames are merely used to harness and amplify these powers. As others have stated though alot of information doesnt match and is merely bits and pieces we've heard from the devs. The child theory i feel is the most viable reasoning atm due to the ember lore however as a previous poster stated, you are often referred to by name, i assume these instances are remnants of the old plan as someone stated at one point the player would be like a summoner, controlling the frames.

Edited March 17, 2014 by Jag272

[Stuifiee]

We're like Ditto, we're genderless.

[(PSN)Eneokun]

We're like Ditto, we're genderless.

 

And can transform into a Penta

[RustyNaps]

Heres Excaliburs lore. This will clear things up for you.

 

The Sentients had won. They had turned our weapons, our technology, against us. The more advanced we became, the greater our losses. The war was over unless we found a new way. In our desperation we turned to the Void. The blinding night, the hellspace where our science and reason failed. We took the twisted few that had returned from that place. We built a frame around them, a conduit of their affliction. Gave them the weapons of the old ways. Gun and blade. A new warrior, a new code was born. These rejects, these Tenno, became our saviors. Warrior-Gods cast in steel and fury striking our enemies in a way they could never comprehend.

Excalibur was the first.

- Orokin 'Warframe' Archives

 

Each Warframe is indeed an individual, the game just slaps our in game name on all of them but everyone in a Warframe is a different person.

Edited March 17, 2014 by RustyNaps

[Arzete]

I believe it was explained by the devs at one point, though i might be making this up as my memory is hazy, that each warframe contains a different tenno so we effectively create a squad of tenno rather than a squad of warframes, presumably from the tenno we protect in cryopod defence. So a female frame such as ember contains a different tenno to a male frame such as loki, female and male tenno presumably. This also applies to all tenno as far as im aware, loki is a different tenno within his frame to rhino, though in theory the tenno could hop between frames like that i imagine, in our case however we just have squads of tenno.

 

Im pretty sure ive seen/heard a dev mention that at some point before but i cant remember when or where exactly so i could be talking crap.

This would not make sense since we have Mastery level. When switching warframes, if each warframe contains an individual separate Tenno, then the mastery should reset. But since it does not, it is the same person controlling different warframes.

[Jag272]

This would not make sense since we have Mastery level. When switching warframes, if each warframe contains an individual separate Tenno, then the mastery should reset. But since it does not, it is the same person controlling different warframes.

Thats where this whole summoner/overbearing being thing comes in. Our mastery level is our ability to control the Tenno overall, our capability of making use of combat situations etc, the warframe level is the ability of that individual tenno as they learn to become strong.

 

I'm going to use the simplest comparison as i can think of atm, Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood.

 

If you played the game you likely remember the whole training your brotherhood thing, in this sense we are Ezio. We give our assassins targets to go after, missions to complete etc, as we do so we are increasing our tactical ability, in warframe terms thats our mastery rank.

 

However the assassins also have levels, up to 11 if i recall correctly, that is like the level of the warframe itself, the individual tenno who is learning to become a strong and capable tenno just as the assassins train to become master assassins. In addition to that they have their weapons which they learn to use and rank up their ability with.

 

The problem comes in when you include game logic, if ember's experience with an Ignis is rank 30 but Nyx has never used it then logic wise you would expect Nyx to have rank 0, however in order to make it suitable for a game mechanic the level must carry over. A similar thing applies to bosses referring to us by name when in fact the warframes are individual tennos, it is simply easier and more personal to the player from a game logic standpoint.

 

If i were to throw a reasonable explanation for this, the boss knows who is instructing that tenno and that we are listening in and telling them how to act, in that sense the player themselves is somewhat of an alternate Lotus, lotus provides information while we provide tactics but im not about to force anything as wild as that into the game lore as theres no indication of that, it is simply one logical explanation.

Edited March 18, 2014 by Jag272

[(PSN)j232000]

I'm not comfortable with a different Tenno for each warframe approach, we craft them at the end of the day and also where do cryopods fit in?

 

We craft the frames, but theTenno would be our Warframe slots, which we apparently buy on the open marketplace from the Lotus (or, ocassionally, Davro.)