Gryphticon Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 The Lotus seems to always want balance. But balance always brings war, there always needs to be a superior faction to have peace but then there is no balance. This is what happened with the Orokin, there was peace but the Lotus wanted "balance" and slaughtered the Orokin. Then, because of that, there is war in the currently in the Warframe universe. So it means Lotus is evil and wants war. (The Tenno have no reason to slaughter the Orokin unless the Lotus told them to do so) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbatico Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) it's bad for the grineer and corpus i guess. remember: every coins has two sides, every choice/discicion has a winner and a loser. honestly though, if it were up to me the tenno would have destroyed the grineer and corpus empires a long time ago. peace beats balance IMO Edited March 18, 2014 by marbatico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Redwire Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Fret not Tenno, soon we will be able to pledge allegiance to other factions. Whether or not we still have to answer to the Lotus after doing so is unclear however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryphticon Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 it's bad for the grineer and corpus i guess. remember: every coins has two sides, every choice/discicion has a winner and a loser. honestly though, if it were up to me the tenno would have destroyed the grineer and corpus empires a long time ago. peace beats balance IMO Yeah but it seems that we never can beat both factions despite billions of them were slaughtered by the Tenno. So maybe the Lotus doesn't allow the Tenno to completely destroy a faction since it would "debalance". The concept of balance is extremely evil and crazy, the correct and good concept is peace. It seems that the Lotus is indeed a evil crazy machine-something. I'd let Vay Hek throw Lotus into the sun, I wouldn't care a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathMavrik Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 The right path isn't always the easiest path my friend Balance is necessary in the world so balance must be maintained, noticed how i said maintained. you cannot keep balance forever due to in-numerous factors the best thing we can do as tenno is fight long enough and hard enough that we will see an end to both empires, either due to lack of funds or complete annihilation/attrition. Then we will wait again until we are needed That is Tenno way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartumterek Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) In war... someone has to win, and someone has to lose. In our case WE the players refuse to eradicate Corpus, and instead want to drag them along in time for the 4th faction to emerge. So we are going to go from fighting a 3 faction war to 4. With our numbers. And no allies. Sound tactical planning. Edited March 18, 2014 by Kartumterek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SALE94 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Potatoes are balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyScootaloo Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy Wanting war does not equal being evil. Peace does not necessarily mean happiness. Balance is not defined exclusively with humanity. There is no 'proof' that the Tenno have no reason to do what they do. If they were anything less than that, they are little more than drones. But they CHOSE to aid Darvo. It is unlikely that the Tenno are bound by loyalty. Duty, perhaps. Edited March 18, 2014 by LadyScootaloo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spysweeper242 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I agree, lotus must be eliminated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbatico Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 The right path isn't always the easiest path my friend Balance is necessary in the world so balance must be maintained, noticed how i said maintained. you cannot keep balance forever due to in-numerous factors the best thing we can do as tenno is fight long enough and hard enough that we will see an end to both empires, either due to lack of funds or complete annihilation/attrition. Then we will wait again until we are needed That is Tenno way but we teno are the ultimate weapons. if a squad of 4 tenno is capable of killing thousands of corpus/grineer in a matter of hours, just immagine what a few dozen could do in their capitals. we could end the war then and there by beating both factions into submision. no war, no empires to grow larger that the other one = balance in the solarsystem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimicree Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Imagine if only one country owned all the nukes, no one would oppose them because they'd be scared of getting nuked and the Country with them could do anything they want. If all the countries had a nuke they would all be kept in check by the other country. I think it would be the same with the Corpus and Grineer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathMavrik Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 So it means Lotus is evil and wants war. (The Tenno have no reason to slaughter the Orokin unless the Lotus told them to do so) We don't know if The Lotus was with us during that day of betrayal or if she was the one to order us to do so, however, she does have a plethora of tenno/orokin knowledge that we have yet learned about, even now she is finding new weapons and warframes that were lost so many years ago. If the Lotus ordered us to take down the orokin it was for a reason, balance, after war what do you expect happens when the winning army/nation is the only able body still able to function? Domination. The Orokin's could've been attempting to assimilate all into their empire (thus the great gathering "of peace" that was being held right before the great betrayal) from not only the propaganda for defeating the sentients, but also for being the only ones left standing with weapons and an army. And this was the Lotus's way to restore the balance, because the orokin were now primed with anti-sentient tools which could more than subdue any human army. that is my say in this matter in the terms of connecting the dots with added speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold_Arrow Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I rather have balance than destroying an empire as a whole, taking the lives of many innocent people but an infinite war also brings a lot of death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)CrazyDeadPerson Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 it's bad for the grineer and corpus i guess. remember: every coins has two sides, every choice/discicion has a winner and a loser. honestly though, if it were up to me the tenno would have destroyed the grineer and corpus empires a long time ago. peace beats balance IMO thing about tht is "peace" would require 1 ruling the other witch means they could do what ever they want. with power comes greed witch would soon create a civil uprising AKA another war balance is war no balance is impending war witch is worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Dont bother with balance and kill everything. You will be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlchemistMute Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 No matter what happens, there will always be a power, and there will be people with weapons who want this power. War can't be stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PookieNumnums Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Libra Frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-.DawnofNSSD.- Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I've been thinking about this and yeah it's crazy. We'll help the Grineer and fight the Corpus till they're down to 5% and COULD wipe them from the galaxy, but, because we must maintain balance we have to switch sides and now help the Corpus whom we had a hand in almost destroying.If the enemy is too strong we'll weaken them, if the enemy is too weak we'll aid them. The Tenno/Lotus aren't good or evil, they are an equalizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 You guys are going about this the wrong way. You seem to think that "balance" means "peace". Nonsense! The balance she is speaking about is perpetual war. The power balance must be preserved with neither the Corpus nor Grineer gaining the upper hand - one of them doing so would spell doom for the Tenno as they could now focus all their efforts against the Tenno! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-.DawnofNSSD.- Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 The Lotus seems to always want balance. But balance always brings war, there always needs to be a superior faction to have peace but then there is no balance. This is what happened with the Orokin, there was peace but the Lotus wanted "balance" and slaughtered the Orokin. Then, because of that, there is war in the currently in the Warframe universe. So it means Lotus is evil and wants war. (The Tenno have no reason to slaughter the Orokin unless the Lotus told them to do so) Not really, it's "GREED". There could be peace AND balance but these factions are so &^%$#ing greedy. The Grins want more planets, the Corps want more money, if they were just contempt then the solar system could be divided equally, no faction would be greater than the other and there would be peace. also thing about tht is "peace" would require 1 ruling the other witch means they could do what ever they want. with power comes greed witch would soon create a civil uprising AKA another war balance is war no balance is impending war witch is worse has a point The factions are too strong, too advanced. Because they have the CAPABILITY of overthrowing planets they will always WANT to overthrow planets (if YOU could own the moon, wouldn't you?). The Tenno are an extremely powerful force, probably stronger than both factions wouldn't you say? given what they've already done. If I were the Lotus and wanted to bring peace to the solar system I would have the Tenno strip both factions of their power (weapons, ships, advanced techs etc. but NOT exterminate them (entirely)) and then divide everything amongst them equally. or something like that, idk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) Actually, lore-wise the Tenno are quite weak. They're a partisan force fighting for their very survival. We don't have anywhere near the resources of our foes. It doesn't really come across well when you kill an entire base of enemy forces on your own, but woop-woop... Edited March 18, 2014 by Brimir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)NicoTheSneakyGuy Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I prefer Lotus' "Balance", Because with peace we don't get to kill and loot things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion-Shields Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 CORPUS SUPERIORITY! *overloads thermal hardeners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 I prefer Lotus' "Balance", Because with peace we don't get to kill and loot things. But with balance Tenno lives are lost, at best, and turned into monstrosities like Zanuka, at worst. Actually, lore-wise the Tenno are quite weak. They're a partisan force fighting for their very survival. We don't have anywhere near the resources of our foes. It doesn't really come across well when you kill an entire base of enemy forces on your own, but woop-woop... Again: we cannot wage OPEN war against our enemies, but waging OPEN war NEVER wins it for you. You have to be subtle, tactful, and strike from the shadows. The Tenno can't attack them head-on, but they can destroy their leaders, destroy their ships, and slowly tear the enemies apart like that. Besides, if the Tenno WEREN'T powerful enough to do what we do in-game, to at least some degree, the idea of us maintaining balance wouldn't make any sense. You can't bring balance when you're fighting for your life. --- For everyone who disagrees with the Lotus, however, perhaps you should hear the words of the Conflagration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExaltedBlaze Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) Philosophically, I despise balance. Blow up the moon, for there is no dark side of the sun. Edited March 19, 2014 by WeezusChrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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