CryoClaw Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Not everyone plays the way you want them too, im not saying you're wrong im just saying people wont always play the same.Are you @(*()$ serious? OK then let me get trinity join a coop match and pretend to be a tank You ok with that? If yes then you are one of those morons... Frames should be played THE WAY THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NitroMidgets Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I got the frame but never got beyond level 9 with it. I simply never really use the frame as it doesn't really seem to have a role that it fills in a way that would make it a go to frame. I want to use it, however it isn't that fun to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbister Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) Are you @(*()$ serious? OK then let me get trinity join a coop match and pretend to be a tank You ok with that? If yes then you are one of those morons... Frames should be played THE WAY THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYED! Oberon is the most hybrid frame, sometimes a reckoning gives enough time to get people out of trouble and spawns health orbs so it also works as a minor heal, and renewal is a heal over time which will NEVER get you out of a tight situation, if you get killed expecting oberon to save you with his renewal you are pretty much dead and do not know how Oberon works, on the other hand when i play oberon im always paying attention to my team mate's health and i use renewal to keep it up, but IT IS NOT an emergency heal. I think renewal is like an OP version of Rejuvenation. Edited March 20, 2014 by Orbister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XAN3MK Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 OK then let me get trinity join a coop match and pretend to be a tank Frames should be played THE WAY THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYED! 1) Are you implying that Trinity can't tank?! 2) And that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartumterek Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) I hate Oberon for that reason. Every time I see one in a public game I am pretty sure s/he is going to spam Reckoning whenever the game presents, what, more than 5 @(*()$ enemies? It flat out &!$$es me off when I'm trying to level things or just have fun with my fabulous Phage. Renewal: I love Valkyr. Renewal is great, it gives me health, I @(*()$ love it. but no one uses it. It's not very powerful and sure as hell is not useful at end-game. Everyone knows Trinity is end-game. Thats because everyone is a crutch player who can only play with close to 30 seconds of invincibility given by another frame so they can continue running around with 300 health frames all day long. Depending on Trinity is the number one indicator of LACK OF SKILL in Warframe. Followed by Rhino rushing and Loki invis/afk combo, and just general Vauban use. I despise and look down on Trinity, Rhino, Loki, Vauban frames for this very reason. When our enemies get Tenno Power Resistance and they have a chance to actually do something to us then mayhaps Ill see them in a better light. All bosses, player hunters, and all elite units should have Dispel at the very minimum. EDIT hm quote was supposed to be on the post about Trinity being an endgame must Edited March 20, 2014 by Kartumterek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achromos Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Thats because everyone is a crutch player who can only play with close to 30 seconds of invincibility given by another frame so they can continue running around with 300 health frames all day long. Depending on Trinity is the number one indicator of LACK OF SKILL in Warframe. Followed by Rhino rushing and Loki invis/afk combo, and just general Vauban use. I despise and look down on Trinity, Rhino, Loki, Vauban frames for this very reason. When our enemies get Tenno Power Resistance and they have a chance to actually do something to us then mayhaps Ill see them in a better light. All bosses, player hunters, and all elite units should have Dispel at the very minimum. EDIT hm quote was supposed to be on the post about Trinity being an endgame must You really have a high opinion of yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartumterek Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Show me play that DOESNT depend on perma invincibility at a high level on a regular basis. You cant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achromos Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) Show me play that DOESNT depend on perma invincibility at a high level on a regular basis. You cant. The 'invincibility' that some people are decrying is not really invincibility, nor is it a major game breaker IF you have ever made it to level 50,60,70+ enemy waves. Rhinos Iron skin, Turbulence, and even Loki's Invisibility DO NOT make up for bad playstyle and you still can end up face planting if you don't have even a modicum of appropriate competence with your warframe or just gameplay in general. Yes people can crutch on those skills and YES they do give people a tendency to create bad habbits, making builds around Iron skin, the use of Turbulence and Invisibility do not mean people are bad players, its what they do with it in high level areas if they are even interested in going that far with that type of character. Edited March 20, 2014 by Sibarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsAndTheSea Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 the problem with renewal is its only 200 health for 75 energy, when you can just cast reckoning for 100 energy, and that still offers slight healing while damaging enemies renewal is also terribly slow, has flight time, and doesnt stack, so its very ineffective at healing while taking damage, and by the time your ally is taking health damage, they will usually be downed by the time renewal actually worked, meaning you just wasted energy that could be used for reckoning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I suppose more people might use it if it still revived people too lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenosInfinity Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I'll heal you when you need it. No, the ten health you lost to that level 3 Lancer's bleed effect is not worth my energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achromos Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I'll heal you when you need it. No, the ten health you lost to that level 3 Lancer's bleed effect is not worth my energy. i lol'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 ofcourse they do, unless they are complete noobs, its just the heal rarely gets to you on time so you would never notice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atpbx1 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 His healing ability is too slow. It should instantly restore the limited amour it restores, or slowly restore the entire amount. Not very slowly restore absolutely diddly squat . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Show me play that DOESNT depend on perma invincibility at a high level on a regular basis. You cant. Dont have to perma-invul if you can perma-CC. This game has many exploitable abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyrazer Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Funny, I bult Oberon around Renewal and Reconing, so yes, there are Oberon who actually care for their teammates. (He's like a more combat-ish Trinity to me.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methanoid Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 His healing is worthless. End of story. ^ this. last i tried, his "heal" had limited range and teammates could outrun it as it has to catch them in order to heal them. thats not something you can rely on, reckoning spam is all that works well, kills stuff (more a cc tool higher lvls tho) and drops health orbs, whats not to like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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