Tatsukko Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) DE have talked about a crossbow but what it would be like? personally I think it should be like the miter but takes bow mods. Stat wise I think it should be like this Impact:32 Slash:12 Puncture:225 Not to sure about crit and status I also think that is shoud be really powerfull the reason for this is in real life the crossbow is far more powerfull at dealing damage at close range because the bolts it fires weigh more and carry more kinetic energy but are less affective at long ranges. It should be obtained by collecting the parts from alerts or bought in the market so its OP apperance is only gained by players who spend the time looking or paying for it (could be stalkers new weapon and could be gained by killing him) This is only a idea and I would love to hear what you think leave comment and thanks for reading :D Edited March 21, 2014 by Judgedeath1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteeleTheShow Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I agree that it should deal mainly puncture damage but that seems like a loooooot of damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnFusterCluck Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Seems like more damage a shotgun. I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I also think that is shoud be really powerfull the reason for this is in real life the crossbow is far more powerfull at dealing damage at close range because the bolts it fires weigh more and carry more kinetic energy but are less affective at long ranges. Crossbows historically are a tradeoff for shot power to accomodate ease of use. nothing tops a Longbow in terms of power per shot. excluding firearms and siege weapons, of course. Crossbows were designed to be easy to use so that soldiers did not need to train for 6 years before they were mentally and physically capable of pulling the string back and hitting the target. so they were easy to rewind, and were compact, but ultimately sacrificed power and range. if you're basing off of modern weaponry, it still holds true. a compound Bow still blows a Crossbow out of the water in terms of power in each shot. and pulling the string back is even a lot easier due to the pulley system. since Crossbows traditionally fire Bolts, wouldn't the Damage be primarily Impact? there are also 'mini arrows' as an option, so then that would depend on what projectile we end up having. if anything though, proportionate amounts of Impact and Puncture would be a good compromise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunchBoxKilla Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Ballistica /thread Edited March 21, 2014 by LunchBoxKilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChileanWarpig Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Crossbows historically are a tradeoff for shot power to accomodate ease of use. nothing tops a Longbow in terms of power per shot. excluding firearms and siege weapons, of course. Crossbows were designed to be easy to use so that soldiers did not need to train for 6 years before they were mentally and physically capable of pulling the string back and hitting the target. so they were easy to rewind, and were compact, but ultimately sacrificed power and range. if you're basing off of modern weaponry, it still holds true. a compound Bow still blows a Crossbow out of the water in terms of power in each shot. and pulling the string back is even a lot easier due to the pulley system. since Crossbows traditionally fire Bolts, wouldn't the Damage be primarily Impact? there are also 'mini arrows' as an option, so then that would depend on what projectile we end up having. if anything though, proportionate amounts of Impact and Puncture would be a good compromise. soo... according to what you said, a crossbow in warframe would be like: -less damage (still high crit chance and damage) -a little more status -much faster reload time -no need to charge the shot like bows do -faster proyectiles but they travel in a more noticable arc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerZeyCJ Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Ballistica /thread No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerZeyCJ Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 soo... according to what you said, a crossbow in warframe would be like: -less damage (still high crit chance and damage) -a little more status -much faster reload time -no need to charge the shot like bows do -faster proyectiles but they travel in a more noticable arc I could see that. Less damage, but low reload time and no having to charge up shots for damage. I think a .5 reload would be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) soo... according to what you said, a crossbow in warframe would be like: -less damage (still high crit chance and damage) -a little more status -much faster reload time -no need to charge the shot like bows do -faster proyectiles but they travel in a more noticable arc sounds pretty accurate, yes. whoops, i misread that the first time. the projectiles would not be faster, as they have less Energy. they would also slow down faster, as they have less Inertia. sum it up like the medival version of a machine gun bow. Edited March 21, 2014 by taiiat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantasmo Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 It exists and it's called Ballistica. Perhaps you are asking for another crossbow, which I would welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbatico Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 soo... according to what you said, a crossbow in warframe would be like: -less damage (still high crit chance and damage) -a little more status -much faster reload time -no need to charge the shot like bows do -faster proyectiles but they travel in a more noticable arc a faster projectile would move more in straight line, not arc more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble_Cactus Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 It exists and it's called Ballistica. Perhaps you are asking for another crossbow, which I would welcome. Ballistica is so awkward to use that I certainly wouldn't mind a new primary crossbow. Livestream 22 had concept art of one, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantasmo Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) Crossbows historically are a tradeoff for shot power to accomodate ease of use. nothing tops a Longbow in terms of power per shot. excluding firearms and siege weapons, of course. Crossbows were designed to be easy to use so that soldiers did not need to train for 6 years before they were mentally and physically capable of pulling the string back and hitting the target. so they were easy to rewind, and were compact, but ultimately sacrificed power and range. if you're basing off of modern weaponry, it still holds true. a compound Bow still blows a Crossbow out of the water in terms of power in each shot. and pulling the string back is even a lot easier due to the pulley system. since Crossbows traditionally fire Bolts, wouldn't the Damage be primarily Impact? there are also 'mini arrows' as an option, so then that would depend on what projectile we end up having. if anything though, proportionate amounts of Impact and Puncture would be a good compromise. Crossbow bolts should be puncturing, since piercing armour has been the crossbows's traditional role. Bolts can be sharp enough for that. Also, using a lever can increase the crossbow reload speed, and quite a lot. However, bows and crossbows only advantage over fire weapons today is silence. They are almost silent. Therefore, these weapons will not make much sense in this game for as long as we lack a decent stealth mode with stealth missions. Edited March 21, 2014 by Phantasmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerZeyCJ Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Crossbow bolts should be puncturing, since piercing armour has been the crossbows's traditional role. Bolts can be sharp enough for that. Also, using a lever can increase the crossbow reload speed, and quite a lot. However, bows and crossbows only advantage over fire weapons today is silence. They are almost silent. Therefore, these weapons will not make much sense in this game for as long as we lack a decent stealth mode with stealth missions. If it helps. think of it this way: We're space ninjas with super strength, just imagine the draw weight the bows we use must have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magmahunter Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 i believe they showed concepts for a tenno crossbow in a previous livestream, the same one where they showed the Grinlok and Marelok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsukko Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) Crossbows historically are a tradeoff for shot power to accomodate ease of use. nothing tops a Longbow in terms of power per shot. excluding firearms and siege weapons, of course. Crossbows were designed to be easy to use so that soldiers did not need to train for 6 years before they were mentally and physically capable of pulling the string back and hitting the target. so they were easy to rewind, and were compact, but ultimately sacrificed power and range. if you're basing off of modern weaponry, it still holds true. a compound Bow still blows a Crossbow out of the water in terms of power in each shot. and pulling the string back is even a lot easier due to the pulley system. since Crossbows traditionally fire Bolts, wouldn't the Damage be primarily Impact? there are also 'mini arrows' as an option, so then that would depend on what projectile we end up having. if anything though, proportionate amounts of Impact and Puncture would be a good compromise. I own a longbow80lb and the crossbow220lb more dangerous at close range. Go onto youtube and look at the video titled Longbow vs Crossbow the crossbow at close range delivers the same kinetic energy as a 10mm pistol and penetrates aromr with ease due to it being constructed out of steel instead of wood.The longbow was only as powerfull as its user the crossbow performed the same for anyone and was more effective at killing armoured untis a perfect example of this is the battle of crecy where the french slaughted the english archers due to the fact the longbow was no good at a sige because it was a clumsy weapon and people could survive being shot by a longbow but not a crossbow if the blot hit you it would rupture your lungs from kinetic impact. Edited March 21, 2014 by Judgedeath1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberShogun Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I like this idea, would be very useful if they made a weapon like this . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIossome Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 This is what it's going to look like when/if it comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAuron Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 http://youtu.be/B5dz224iixc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrosslyIncandescent1709 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 i hope it's as good as dread/paris prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsukko Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share Posted March 21, 2014 SirAuron that was great :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsukko Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share Posted March 21, 2014 I think it should be like the miter where you collect the parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerZeyCJ Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 This is what it's going to look like when/if it comes out. You think it's a Repeater Crossbow? That's the only reason I can think of for it having the block on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryoClaw Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Hope it will be made right Not 10x better than the normal bows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAuron Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) SirAuron that was great :D I see a great secondary function idea int that video. Edited March 21, 2014 by SirAuron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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