Thaumatos Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) I main Loki So, you're upset that another frame can run as fast as Loki without invis? I don't understand...Loki has perma-invis. What more of a nub-button do you need? Go play your Loki, almost die when you forget to hit '2', and complain that Warframe requires too much skill and other frames are "imba". This guy... Edited May 3, 2014 by Thaumatos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanj66 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) What are you saying? I can't even understand your posts anymore. The more you post, the more your English skills decay. I main Loki, why the hell should I bring Rhino? Are you trying to insult us? T3 exterminates aren't that hard and they come down (primarily) to weapon choice, not frame choice. No, I'm going to keep my collector's item. If you're trying to imply that a helmet's name equates to what it is supposed to do I recommend you go take a look at Ash's alt helmets' names. What are you saying? I can't even understand your posts anymore. The more you post, the more your English skills decay. I main Loki, why the hell should I bring Rhino? Are you trying to insult us? T3 exterminates aren't that hard and they come down (primarily) to weapon choice, not frame choice. No, I'm going to keep my collector's item. If you're trying to imply that a helmet's name equates to what it is supposed to do I recommend you go take a look at Ash's alt helmets' names. if you main loki what is the issue? why should you who main loki determine what is good for those who main rhino? because he is as fast as your loki? is there a rule that states no other frame must be as fast as loki? also its easy to critique another frame when your main can infinitely scale no matter what level mob is thrown at it, in alot of ways if not all, loki negates damage better with his #2 compared to rhino's #2 and he isnt a tank, why not just like the nerf to old iron skin, frosts globe, soon to be blessing and m prime,they should also nerf/re work loki for being a 1 trick infinite scaling frame.while radial disarm and decoy are decent utility, we all know the main reason people play loki is to use invisibilty, why not make loki invis based on range and not infinite scaling on duration ,as in he can only run X meters invisible. i wonder how you would react then and if you would preach the grail of balance then as well, as we all know loki is the most op frame and can do every single mission in game team or solo while scaling infinitely. Edited May 3, 2014 by sanj66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaumatos Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 if you main loki what is the issue? why should you who main loki determine what is good for those who main rhino? because he is as fast as your loki? is there a rule that states no other frame must be as fast as loki? Don't even bother arguing with this guy anymore...he mains the perma-invis frame and complains that others are imba. He's got no clue. Plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanj66 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Don't even bother arguing with this guy anymore...he mains the perma-invis frame and complains that others are imba. He's got no clue. Plain and simple. yup its funny how he talks about balance but never talks about the fact that loki #2 negates damage and gives damage buff, which is rhino's #2+#3, yet rhino is not balanced, loki is just as fast , larger ep pool, able to spam invis over and over again to the point of perma invis, negate almost all forms of damage, in most cases making a tank trivial while also having 2 cc skills and a good/great transportation skill, but yea rhino is not balanced...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirmyBurrito Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 So, you're upset that another frame can run as fast as Loki without invis? I don't understand...Loki has perma-invis. What more of a nub-button do you need? Go play your Loki, almost die when you forget to hit '2', and complain that Warframe requires too much skill and other frames are "imba". This guy... I never said that. My main build on Loki doesn't have invisibility slotted. Take your assumptions elsewhere. if you main loki what is the issue? why should you who main loki determine what is good for those who main rhino? because he is as fast as your loki? is there a rule that states no other frame must be as fast as loki? also its easy to critique another frame when your main can infinitely scale no matter what level mob is thrown at it, in alot of ways if not all, loki negates damage better with his #2 compared to rhino's #2 and he isnt a tank, why not just like the nerf to old iron skin, frosts globe, soon to be blessing and m prime,they should also nerf/re work loki for being a 1 trick infinite scaling frame. while radial disarm and decoy are decent utility, we all know the main reason people play loki is to use invisibilty, why not make loki invis based on range and not infinite scaling on duration ,as in he can only run X meters invisible. i wonder how you would react then and if you would preach the grail of balance then as well, as we all know loki is the most op frame and can do every single mission in game team or solo while scaling infinitely. I main Loki, but that does not mean I do not have and/or have never played as Rhino. Prior to maining Loki, Rhino was my main. Please, stop bringing up Loki as if I have some sort of vendetta against any frames being as fast as him. You're sticking words in my mouth that I never said. If you want to have a discussion on how imbalanced Loki is start your own thread. I will gladly agree with you about Loki needing to be reworked/rebalanced/nerfed. Trying to counter me by throwing Loki nerf pleas at me is not going to work. I'm not a blind fan, I can see and admit when my favorite frame is too powerful. Don't even bother arguing with this guy anymore...he mains the perma-invis frame and complains that others are imba. He's got no clue. Plain and simple. Actually, my two most used builds on Loki are a Radial Disarm build and my no ability build. Take your baseless assumptions elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirmyBurrito Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 yup its funny how he talks about balance but never talks about the fact that loki #2 negates damage and gives damage buff, which is rhino's #2+#3, yet rhino is not balanced, loki is just as fast , larger ep pool, able to spam invis over and over again to the point of perma invis, negate almost all forms of damage, in most cases making a tank trivial while also having 2 cc skills and a good/great transportation skill, but yea rhino is not balanced...... No, what's funny is that you're assuming I haven't talked about how Loki isn't balanced. I've already stated on numerous occasions that Loki is too powerful. His ult lasts forever, invisibility has no downside and gives a HUGE damage buff to melee, decoy is broken when paired with knowledge of all the best spots, and switch teleport is... well I guess it's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cwierz Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I never said that. My main build on Loki doesn't have invisibility slotted. Take your assumptions elsewhere. I main Loki, but that does not mean I do not have and/or have never played as Rhino. Prior to maining Loki, Rhino was my main. Please, stop bringing up Loki as if I have some sort of vendetta against any frames being as fast as him. You're sticking words in my mouth that I never said. If you want to have a discussion on how imbalanced Loki is start your own thread. I will gladly agree with you about Loki needing to be reworked/rebalanced/nerfed. Trying to counter me by throwing Loki nerf pleas at me is not going to work. I'm not a blind fan, I can see and admit when my favorite frame is too powerful. Actually, my two most used builds on Loki are a Radial Disarm build and my no ability build. Take your baseless assumptions elsewhere. Apply cool water to burned area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary2010haha Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 it's lovely i see those guy said rhino should be slow is because rhino is a tank until, but in WF here have no tank, only invincible ability gods, Rhino can't "tank" any attack in a NM mode in pluto, and why still want he be slow ? Rhino at now is more like a high survivability frame than a tank until, flexibility is also a important fact for survive and they want to take it alway.Just like real world, tanks need speed and flexibility more than super heavy armor , Rhino will never be another "Panzerkampfwagen Tiger Ausf. B" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanj66 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) No, what's funny is that you're assuming I haven't talked about how Loki isn't balanced. I've already stated on numerous occasions that Loki is too powerful. His ult lasts forever, invisibility has no downside and gives a HUGE damage buff to melee, decoy is broken when paired with knowledge of all the best spots, and switch teleport is... well I guess it's fine. No, what's funny is that you're assuming I haven't talked about how Loki isn't balanced. I've already stated on numerous occasions that Loki is too powerful. His ult lasts forever, invisibility has no downside and gives a HUGE damage buff to melee, decoy is broken when paired with knowledge of all the best spots, and switch teleport is... well I guess it's fine.then go and press for the fix/nerf/balance to your main frame and stop trying to get that done to others, like i said before if rhino is not your main then how is your posts relevant? so you said somethings about loki in the past etc, what about now, and loki is more as you would put it "imbalanced"? why not go and champion that cause? no you want to ruin the play of others and clutch to your precious loki how he is for as long as possible/forever, why are you not as vociferous about loki as you are about this single helm for rhino? because if it were as op and broken as you say surely you would raise the issue rather than waiting for someone else to and support them. Edited May 3, 2014 by sanj66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewell Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 This has got to be one of the longest nerf threads I've seen in a while. Who cares if Rhino is fast. So are other frames. Rhino is an end game frame not because he can run fast. Maybe instead of nerfing, DE could look into buffing other frames that don't compete in the higher level missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary2010haha Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 after i watch the "amazing spiderman 2"', at last a Rhino armor cames out, it was quick like hell when it charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Dan_The_Noob Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 screw this post. it needs to be deleted D: it's people not using Rush that is making Rhino so fast, not the 5% move speed or whatever from vanguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)billy-d-squid Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 screw this post. it needs to be deleted D: it's people not using Rush that is making Rhino so fast, not the 5% move speed or whatever from vanguard. Try 25%. It's the Vanguard helm, it's always been the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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