Lqn8r Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 (edited) Introduction: So in the recent live stream (25), DE said they are no longer releasing stat helmets anymore. Instead all the helmets will just be for visuals and anyone who has one of the older stat helmets can forgo them for a non-stat helmet. This seems great and all because we can where cool helmets without worrying about stats but it is kinda pointless and flawed. Problems: Well the first problem I have is allowing players to remove stats on their helmets. This is because some of the helmets were ugly but had great abillities. The vespa nyx helm is an example of this as it is not a good looking helmet for nyx but it gives 15% efficiency over shields. Loki also has a helmet like this that does the same stat increase but reduces armor instead. Both helmets are ugly and if they no longer have stat buffs, whats the point in even wearing them? The Second problem I have is that very few of the aesthetic helmets don't even look good. Now looks is subjective as it is based on the views of the player, but I'm sure very few people would argue that the quantum nova helmet and the new Valkyr helmet look good. First off, the nova helm has a freaking head boner while the Valkyr helmet has a gag and looks bad as well. What is the point of using aesthetic helms if they don't even look good? When these helmets first came out, I thought the point of them was to be used as cool looking helmets that players did not have to worry about losing stats. While the raknis helmet, the cierzo helmet, bastet helmet, and the first oberon helmet look good to me, the other helmets look disgusting. Frost has a toilet/washing machine helmet for one of his and an open toilet seat for the other. If DE is going to shed the stats of these helmets for newer player, they should at least change the designs to look more appealing. Sure looks aren't everything in warframe but if you want people to actually buy the helmets you release, they have to have good stats or look great. DE has some good artists so I don't understand why most of the helmets look good. The only frame I can honestly say has two helmets that I like is rhino. The rest either have no good looking helmets (nova), one good looking helmet and one horrid-looking helmet.(ember/ash/valkyr) Conclusion: Stats were kind of the main point of why I chose to wear some of the bad looking ones. With the advent of stat removals from the helmets, DE should revamp/ change the looks of some of them because there will be no point to use them at all. I guess I'm proposing a helmet 2.0 of sorts. Also since this might be subject to "moved to proper section"(Tulzscha), I would like it if this topic was to remain here as most people frequent this part of the forums. I also am curious what the community thinks about helmets and general and this new announcement. TL;DR: If you are unable to digest this wall of text, I will sum it up for you. 1. If DE wants to remove stats on some of the helmets, they should change the ugly ones. 2. DE should make alternate helms that look good if they are going to not release stat helmets anymore. 3. Post your opinions in the comments below because I'm interested to see what you think. Edit: Added some extra stuff. Edited March 23, 2014 by Lqn8r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 There is a search option on Forum, you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noogums Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 This is all very subjective. My best friend happens to love the Vespa helmet, and if it were changed just because you thought it was a bit iffy, him and many other players would be pretty miffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lqn8r Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 There is a search option on Forum, you know. Sorry about that, I posted this topic and then realized there was another one about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapt0rman Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 You said yourself that looks are subjective... and they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtexas Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 All DE has to do is add a Costume Helmet slot. THEN EVERYONE WINS. You want the stats but not the look? Equip helmet in the normal slot and another helmet in the costume slot. You want the look only? Only have the helmet equipped in the costume slot (no helmet in the normal slot). Want both the look and stats? Equip the helmet in the normal slot (no helmet in the costume slot). Not only this but then DE can add stats to ALL the other helmets that don't have any. Seriously. A costume helmet slot FIXES THIS ENTIRE PROBLEM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lqn8r Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 This is all very subjective. My best friend happens to love the Vespa helmet, and if it were changed just because you thought it was a bit iffy, him and many other players would be pretty miffed. "Now looks is subjective as it is based on the views of the player, but I'm sure very few people would argue that the quantum nova helmet and the new Valkyr helmet look good." That is a direct quote from my post. I acknowledge that it is subjective but I still think some of the helmets need to be changed. Maybe vespa is okay to some people but some of the other helmets aren't as appealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega224 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 just because you don't like the way a helmet looks dosent mean someone else dosent like it personally I like the look of frost alt helmets and nyx's vespa helm they should be cosmetic choices not min max choices and I personally feel they shouldn't let the stat helms stay for those who do have them the stats should be removed for everyone old players and new ones alike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lqn8r Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 All DE has to do is add a Costume Helmet slot. THEN EVERYONE WINS. You want the stats but not the look? Equip helmet in the normal slot and another helmet in the costume slot. You want the look only? Only have the helmet equipped in the costume slot (no helmet in the normal slot). Want both the look and stats? Equip the helmet in the normal slot (no helmet in the costume slot). Not only this but then DE can add stats to ALL the other helmets that don't have any. Seriously. A costume helmet slot FIXES THIS ENTIRE PROBLEM. That is a good idea, but since they are set on removing stat helmets effects I'm not sure it would happen. It would get around the complaints I have though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryoClaw Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Removing stats from the helmets in the 1st place is $&*&*#(%&... God damn it... WARFRAME IS SLOWLY DROWNING IN COSMETICS!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirmyBurrito Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I like Loki's Essence helmet, that's the whole reason why I use this avatar. I could careless about its stats. IMO, DE should just purge all the helmets of stats. Some of them are imbalanced, others aren't but players will complain if DE just goes in and tweaks the imbalanced ones. So purging stats is the only answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 The Quantum Nova Helmet looks good! I use it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatolius Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Same with Vauban ' s Gambit helmet. I wanna use it so badly but the stat is pretty pointless for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbister Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Take some basic philosophy course and think about the concept of beauty, then maybe we can start discussing this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IIJetfireII Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Take some basic philosophy course and think about the concept of beauty, then maybe we can start discussing this... Cosmetic simply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendragon1951 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Once again this is something that really bothers me about DE, they do something then mid-stream they say opps maybe should not have done that and changes something and splits the community. What I feel they should have done is give all helmets a mod slot this way if your a player who wants that extra boost you add the mod, if your one of those players who don't and want more of a challenge then you have the option of not adding the mod. As it is right now I like having that extra boost of speed on my Rhino Prime. Also stat removal is optional to those who have them, which to me would be quite stupid to do IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Q--FullFrontal Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I Think DE should go back making stat changing helment again... Coz looking fabulous is just not worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbetti Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Helmets should never have had stats on them in the first place. Vanity items should be for looks and looks alone. The attractiveness of helmets is purely subjective. While you think a particular helmet is ugly, there are those that actually like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhisperByte Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 God damn it... WARFRAME IS SLOWLY DROWNING IN COSMETICS!!!!! And how is this bad? That's the point of good freemium model imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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