Deristel Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 im just gonna go ahead and assume you were talking about the OP, since the latter is exactly what he is asking for also, Fireball doesnt damage ember anymore, and it hasnt for a long time, the OP is just asking for arbitrary buffs/debuffs based on the elements of the warframe, because it "fits the lore", without proposing any actual way to balance implementing it weeeeell...easiest way would be to actually implement more elemental damage on enemies.So you wouldn't run nova only,but if you know there will be fire using enemy (The grineer flametrower one,since bombard is blast) you could opt to go for a frame that has resistence to it (ember) wich you would avoid in ice users faction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Control =/= Immunity She's not a fire elemental, this thread has been over since page 1. Yeah, this sums it up I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 That is one of the dumbest things I read on the forums. So far. Just dig a little deeper if you want more and better examples. To be fair, he is on the right track, he just needs to use a fantasy example like: "Same reason a fire wizard isn't immune to fireballs." or "Same reason Squirtle isn't completely immune to Bubble Gun.. or ray, or whatever." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeduSalem Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Honestly... It's a good point to discuss about... On one hand it would make sense if Ember would be resistant to fire to some degree because she even walks in her own fire all the time and she doesn't take any damage from it... Same for Frost, Saryn, whatever. But I don't know... It's hard to make it tasty for most people here on the Forum. Most people are either like "No gimme my damage/reliability" or "No gimme my balance". Can't satisfy both groups. That's why the Mod system already sucks... Introducing another bunch of Stats making some frames near to immune to different types of damages would cause probably more rage/nerf threads at this point. If it would have been around ever since the game went Open Beta I guess people would have adapted to it. They would have taken it as a feature unique to each frame and most people probably wouldn't have questioned it. But now the playerbase is too big and too many people are narrow-minded for major changes in game-mechanics, mods, Warframes, Weapons whatever... Let's just throw balance out the window! Hahaha... Which balance? xD I thought balancing of the Warframes took a dive out the window back when Nova came... And I'm sure there are people around who are willing to argue that it's already been unbalanced even before Nova came to existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinnannigans1 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Even a 5% innate resistence to fire (and -5% resistence to ice,to make it balanced) would be good for me.After all she use fire all the time,it's only natural it should be a frame created to resist to fire as a safety measure. why even waste the time on changing it and patching it it doesnt really matter that much just avoid fire damage and you wont notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP04 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 so, balance exists in warframe? xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsAndTheSea Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 So far. Just dig a little deeper if you want more and better examples. the same reason human beings arent immune to stomach acid. also why human you can bite your self and feel pain (even bite your own tongue off) and why punching yourself in the face still hurts control =/= immunity is his point, i suppose just because the warframes arent completely balanced doesnt mean DE should implement more dumb features to unbalance them further, if ember was given more weaknesses (to counter these new resists) then it would only give players more reason to play powerhouse frames like rhino/nova people really dont like being punished for no reason, otherwise we would ask for broken lights to return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulzscha Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Moved to the proper section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcLightCRO Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Because "Stay away from fire, it will damage your frame" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 the same reason human beings arent immune to stomach acid. I like that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)john5153 Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 Control =/= Immunity She's not a fire elemental, this thread has been over since page 1. My favorite quote....it suggests that the thread is stupid, yet says that because a video warframe girl that shoots fire and has it on her head isn't and elemental, (because those are real) she shouldn't be immune to the attacks...... Again I understand from the sake of balance that she shouldn't be immune....but you are gonna sit there and tell me master sage that someone that yields fire shouldn't be a lil more resistant to it? Not a wizard that knows how to use the power, but she a frame that basically controls it...... Not a lil huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emaralez87 Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 we have several mods as "antitoxin", "diamond skin", "flame repellent", "lightning rod" etc what are equal... ehm... usless?.. for all warframes. from other hand we have mods as "vitality", "steel fiber", "redirection", "rage" etc what are differently prefered for different warframes. steel fiber for valkyr?-yes, steel fiber for zephyr?-no. I think such thing should be for elemental advantages and disadvantages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbatico Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 we have several mods as "antitoxin", "diamond skin", "flame repellent", "lightning rod" etc what are equal... ehm... usless?.. for all warframes. from other hand we have mods as "vitality", "steel fiber", "redirection", "rage" etc what are differently prefered for different warframes. steel fiber for valkyr?-yes, steel fiber for zephyr?-no. I think such thing should be for elemental advantages and disadvantages that is actually quite an interesting idea, making flame repellent more effective on ember, antitoxin more effective on saryn etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyxolf Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Same reason why soldiers are not immune to bullets. They don't control bullets with their mind/hands. They use tools to control them. Their suits are made to resist bullets, and they do, a Warframe's suit should be able to resist the element its warping to its whim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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