.Talia. Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) DE, you guys see all these discussions about the Excalibur Proto-Armor skin? That is how thirsty we are for Lore. How long you gonna keep ignoring this essential aspect of the game? No wonder new players can't understand anything that's going on, the only Lore we have is a couple codex entries filled with riddles and mystery. That is not cool. You guys promised some Origin Lore today, all we got is a vague reference to Dark Sector's Hayden Tenno Armor. I am disappointed. I mean, if you guys need help writing the Lore for the game, we have some pretty good fan fic writers right here in the community. Edited March 27, 2014 by RexSol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renathy Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 They're not ignoring the lore, they're bringing it bit by bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veridantus Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 DE, you guys see all these discussions about the Excalibur Proto-Armor skin? That is how thirsty we are for Lore. How long you gonna keep ignoring this essential aspect of the game? No wonder new players can't understand anything that's going on, the only Lore we have is a couple codex entries filled with riddles and mystery. That is not cool. You guys promised some Origin Lore today, all we got is a vague reference to Dark Sector's Hayden Tenno Armor. I am disappointed. I mean, if you guys need help writing the Lore for the game, we have some pretty good fan fic writers right here in the community. They mentioned in Dev 25, the coming of Focus system will be accompanied with some lore to clarify the history of tennos.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraiya.Gier Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 The proto armor was lore. Vague lore. But lore nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Talia. Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) The proto armor was lore. Vague lore. But lore nonetheless. Not enough... We need substantial Lore, no more riddles and mysteries, no more vague codex entries that don't explain anything. They're not ignoring the lore, they're bringing it bit by bit. Are you satisfied with that? Edited March 27, 2014 by RexSol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illuminatus51 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 They're not ignoring the lore, they're bringing it bit by bit. And a snail isn't incapable of cross country travel, it's moving bit by bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 They're not ignoring the lore, they're bringing it bit by bit. Like an amnesiac slowly regaining what he knows, never really sure if it's lining up right or not. It's a novel idea, I like it. Plus, along with piecing together the past lore like a man trying to get his memory back, we're also getting more concrete present/future lore. Grustrag bios tell of another Grineer Scientists and speak volumes for intra-Grineer relations, the Gradivus Dilemma told us of how Grineer-Corpus politics work (or, at least, used to work), and there will undoubtedly be more in the future. I look forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renathy Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 And a snail isn't incapable of cross country travel, it's moving bit by bit. Thing is, I like it a mystery. I like to speculate, so do many other players. It's fun, it creates a lot of fan-fiction and discussion. I don't see why it should be rushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtexas Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I like to think of warframe lore exists as much as dark souls lore exists. You have to look for it and slowly put things together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veridantus Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Like an amnesiac slowly regaining what he knows, never really sure if it's lining up right or not. It's a novel idea, I like it. Plus, along with piecing together the past lore like a man trying to get his memory back, we're also getting more concrete present/future lore. Grustrag bios tell of another Grineer Scientists and speak volumes for intra-Grineer relations, the Gradivus Dilemma told us of how Grineer-Corpus politics work (or, at least, used to work), and there will undoubtedly be more in the future. I look forward to it. ^This +1 We're basically the Tennos putting the bits & pieces of information we gained slowly trying to remember what's going on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaboomonme Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I like to think of warframe lore exists as much as dark souls lore exists. You have to look for it and slowly put things together. That much I agree with, but Warframe's lore isn't completely fleshed out yet, unlike the extensive planning and design-decisions that went into Dark Souls lore. If such an update were to come though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Talia. Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) I like to think of warframe lore exists as much as dark souls lore exists. You have to look for it and slowly put things together. We're basically the Tennos putting the bits & pieces of information we gained slowly trying to remember what's going on.. That is just an excuse for a game without explanation for anything. I have a feeling that DE don't have any clue, they are just creating stuff without bothering to give a background to it. (I'm sorry DE but that's the impression i have.) Edited March 27, 2014 by RexSol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veridantus Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 That is just an excuse for a game without explanation for anything. Well, we still get bits & pieces of the lore.. Sides, this way each discovery can be made into an event of sort.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 They're not ignoring the lore, they're bringing it bit by bit. No, they aren't bringing it bit by bit. They're doing it every so often when they fancy it, and they're making it up as they go instead of sitting down and just writing out the history. The moment they just finish the lore, then we can have events, equipment, frames, tilesets, etc based around and drawing from this lore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbister Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 DE, you guys see all these discussions about the Excalibur Proto-Armor skin? That is how thirsty we are for Lore. How long you gonna keep ignoring this essential aspect of the game? No wonder new players can't understand anything that's going on, the only Lore we have is a couple codex entries filled with riddles and mystery. That is not cool. You guys promised some Origin Lore today, all we got is a vague reference to Dark Sector's Hayden Tenno Armor. I am disappointed. I mean, if you guys need help writing the Lore for the game, we have some pretty good fan fic writers right here in the community. 150 plats of lore : P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarbain Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) The way they put it out was that I quote from my memory so not the best quote as "We want the players to make lore of themselves." Edit: But I guess some players can't get their heads out of the box of story to make a story themselves. Edited March 27, 2014 by Zarbain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Talia. Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 150 plats of lore : P I wouldn't call that skin's description as proper Lore!! But yeah i would pay 1000 plats for a substantial Lore explaining once and for all what the hek is everything in Warframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renathy Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 They're doing it every so often when they fancy it, and they're making it up as they go instead of sitting down and just writing out the history. That's still bit by bit, and if you don't understand it, don't blame the writers. They wouldn't publish random entries of text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xShadowsaur Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 DE, you guys see all these discussions about the Excalibur Proto-Armor skin? That is how thirsty we are for Lore. How long you gonna keep ignoring this essential aspect of the game? No wonder new players can't understand anything that's going on, the only Lore we have is a couple codex entries filled with riddles and mystery. That is not cool. You guys promised some Origin Lore today, all we got is a vague reference to Dark Sector's Hayden Tenno Armor. I am disappointed. I mean, if you guys need help writing the Lore for the game, we have some pretty good fan fic writers right here in the community. As far as I'm concerned, we already knew that the Dark Sector Universe and the Warframe Universe are the exact same universe, just different times. While the skin is nice, it isn't lore. It'd be lore the same way as me saying that the technocyte existed before the Orokin empire. The technocyte was in dark sector and in dark sector there was no Orokin Empire. In my honest opinion there are just too many similarities between Warframe and dark sector to call it references or a coincidence. And there's no reason for them not to be in the same universe. And, to me, it was obvious that Hayden Tenno and Nemesis were the first Warframes. They weren't refined or as amazing as they are now, but it's like saying a sword isn't a weapon because guns are better. As far as I'm concerned, we're still owed a new piece of lore. Something. Anything new. I don't want to be told something I already knew was right is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiBBz Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 step at a time closer and closer thats all , it will come just be patient like everyone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarbain Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 No, they aren't bringing it bit by bit. They're doing it every so often when they fancy it, and they're making it up as they go instead of sitting down and just writing out the history. The moment they just finish the lore, then we can have events, equipment, frames, tilesets, etc based around and drawing from this lore. Games take time to do. The way DE is doing it is they have to create a event or something to release the lore or it won't make sense. Like the Grineer queens lore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegetableBasket Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) If anyone doesn't believe Dark Sector and Warframe are related, there's a link on my profile to Steve confirming they are the same universe.I was disappointed that this was the "origin lore," but I also was expecting Vor's Prize to come out. There is a little bit of lore in the game and drizzed throughout the streams, but most people don't know it. I see "lore guys" be wrong about the lore pretty consistently because they haven't turned over every stone there is (have you read the faction descriptions on the website?), and unfortunately, that's the only way to know what little bit of a story there is. Edited March 27, 2014 by VegetableBasket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 The way they put it out was that I quote from my memory so not the best quote as "We want the players to make lore of themselves." Edit: But I guess some players can't get their heads out of the box of story to make a story themselves. What everyone seems to think counts as lore around here is the PAST. No one cares to discuss Vor, or Ruk, or what's going on currently in the galaxy - who Tengus is, what Hek's choices will have on his relations with Ruk. It's all about the Orokin and the Tenno, and that's not all DE's giving us. If those leaked bits are to be believed, we'll be seeing some juicy details on the Grineer put in soon. It may not be the distant past, but it's still LORE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Talia. Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) There's only a couple pages on the wikia, a couple codex entries, and the things we know from Dark Sector, and that's it. I mean, c'mon!! There's no excuse. DE, look at the size of this game!! Edited March 27, 2014 by RexSol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarbain Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 What everyone seems to think counts as lore around here is the PAST. No one cares to discuss Vor, or Ruk, or what's going on currently in the galaxy - who Tengus is, what Hek's choices will have on his relations with Ruk. It's all about the Orokin and the Tenno, and that's not all DE's giving us. If those leaked bits are to be believed, we'll be seeing some juicy details on the Grineer put in soon. It may not be the distant past, but it's still LORE. Sometimes you need to know the future before you can understand what happened in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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