RustyNaps Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) Kraken isn't as bad as people make it out to be. If you can handle the recoil you can land some very mean shots. My dream build :'D (Anti Corpus)http://goo.gl/OcwULn (Dogebards Build of Awesomeness)http://goo.gl/tYvXSZ Can't wait to max it out and put a potato and a forma on it. But I can only build one at a time... CURSE U BUILD TIME D: NOTE: for those who still think it wont be the best gun for me. If I can take on level 50 G3 squad with my Rad/Viral Braton unintended with my Vauban warframe I'm fairly sure I can effectively use this gun and beat an Boltor Prime, M priming spam Nova's kill stats. :3 NOTE 2.0: More note for people who think me using this gun will get out classed by other guns. IF i can solo T3 defense in void with my NYX and my BRATON I am fairly sure the Kraken would be death machine in my hands. Edited March 27, 2014 by RustyNaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsAndTheSea Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 the problem isnt that the weapon can't be good, its that (many) other weapons are much better, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letter13 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Protip: Gunslinger + Lethal Torrent. The fire speed boost between the two shots is fast enough that recoil doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntyd1s Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) the problem isnt that the weapon can't be good, its that (many) other weapons are much better, QFT - - Noticed unusually strong kicks from that pistol used by Grineer Seeker just recently though. Edited March 27, 2014 by ntyd1s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyNaps Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 the problem isnt that the weapon can't be good, its that (many) other weapons are much better, I play with skill, not stats. If I can take on level 50 G3 squad with my Rad/Viral Braton unintended with my Vauban warframe I'm fairly sure I can effectively use this gun and beat an Boltor Prime, M priming spam Nova's kill stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyNaps Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 Protip: Gunslinger + Lethal Torrent. The fire speed boost between the two shots is fast enough that recoil doesn't matter. I was thinking that just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motakshi Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) Most weapons -can- be made usable with a potato and Forma, this isn't really a surprise. It's not a bad weapon, just outclassed, which is what makes justifying leveling the thing to 30 three times and potato'ing it a hard thing to do. The Akmagnus can get 5k more DPS for a very similar setup and 2Forma/Potato, for example. Edited March 27, 2014 by Motakshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyNaps Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 Most weapons -can- be made usable with a potato and Forma, this isn't really a surprise. It's not a bad weapon, just outclassed, which is what makes justifying leveling the thing to 30 three times and potato'ing it a hard thing to do. The Akmagnus can get 5k more DPS for a very similar setup and 2Forma/Potato, for example. Please read the note. ALSO if I can solo T3 void with my Nyx and my BRATON I am fairly sure I can turn this into ultragigadeathmachineofdeath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ov3rd0se Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 There's nothing wrong with the Kraken. I had fun mastering it and actually kept it, unlike Stug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aishi Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) Just swing your shot down, no need to get anything beyond Lethal Torrent. It was one of the more fun guns to use, still pretty useless long-term play, but if you really like the gun you can make use of it. Double headshots feel great. But just to mimic everyone else, you can get multiple times more efficient results putting effort into other guns. This is fact.Also, your edits are very epeen-wavy, it sounds like you think you're doing something moderately difficult, lol. Edited March 27, 2014 by Aishi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deidaku Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 What's a Kraken ? Oo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motakshi Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) Just swing your shot down, no need to get anything beyond Lethal Torrent. It was one of the more fun guns to use, still pretty useless long-term play, but if you really like the gun you can make use of it. Double headshots feel great. But just to mimic everyone else, you can get multiple times more efficient results putting effort into other guns. This is fact. Also, your edits are very epeen-wavy, it sounds like you think you're doing something moderately difficult, lol. Anything beyond Lethal Torrent as in Barrel Diffusion with it? Also, Dogebard's build (and yours): Why do you keep using Concussion Rounds? Swapping it out with Bane of Corpus provides a flat 2k DPS increase. http://goo.gl/s3a7ER Edited March 27, 2014 by Motakshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulzscha Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Thread title edited for clarity and moved to the proper section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlyNerd Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Anything beyond Lethal Torrent as in Barrel Diffusion with it? Also, Dogebard's build (and yours): Why do you keep using Concussion Rounds? Swapping it out with Bane of Corpus provides a flat 2k DPS increase. http://goo.gl/s3a7ER The builds are horrible however you turn it. A heated charge with +240% corrosive damage would keep this weapon useful in any situation. Tbh, I don't understand how anyone could justify ANY other elemental damage other than corrosive, when it comes to high end content. Enemy armor is the culprit to power creep, not enemy health. Talk about being here since ever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shut Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 What's a Kraken ? Oo The thing that Seekers destroy pods in split seconds with. Seriously. In the hands of AI, Krakens make Napalms look like children throwing water balloons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GONZI2013 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 http://warframe-builder.com/Secondary_Weapons/Builder/Kraken/t_30_20002000_193-4-5-197-1-5-200-7-5-204-0-10-206-5-5-209-2-5-212-6-3_204-7-197-9-209-11-f-f-193-6-206-11-212-7-200-9/en/3-0-11 You should try this corpus build instead. It does a lot more overall damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAYABU5A Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 for some reason a long time ago i put 4 forma on the kraken, still dont know why anyways biggest complaint is its reload speed, its got damage but the reload speed really kills it always imagine next wraith = AKKraken Wraith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shackram Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Noticed unusually strong kicks from that pistol used by Grineer Seeker just recently though. Notice how sometimes you're fighting grineer and it seems like your shield just dissapeared? Kraken. LV 15 Seekers were dealing like 400 damage with each shot (well, two shots). A single one demolished my iron skined rhino before i could realise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyNaps Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 Anything beyond Lethal Torrent as in Barrel Diffusion with it? Also, Dogebard's build (and yours): Why do you keep using Concussion Rounds? Swapping it out with Bane of Corpus provides a flat 2k DPS increase. http://goo.gl/s3a7ER Because unlike rifles those 3 damage type boosters are actually useful because they scale up to 90% rather than 30%. Also those 3 primary damage values really weigh in on your performance in higher levels. They have just as big of a play as your elements do. I want that value higher so the other 2 won't nerf it as hard in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axterix13 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Because unlike rifles those 3 damage type boosters are actually useful because they scale up to 90% rather than 30%. Also those 3 primary damage values really weigh in on your performance in higher levels. They have just as big of a play as your elements do. I want that value higher so the other 2 won't nerf it as hard in the long run. They only go to 60%, not 90% (that's melee). Which means they only provide 23% damage increase for the one physical type over the anti-faction one. And no benefit to the other two types, which would close the gap for physical damage only for the Kraken down to 12.5%, if you ignore elemental damage. But that exists as well, makes up 60% of your damage, and it'll also be boosted by the anti-faction mod, while the damage specific type does nothing to help the elemental damage. Unless you want more impact procs out of the deal or are expecting your elements to be resisted by over 50% (in which case, why are you using them?), the anti-faction seems a much better choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjamo Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I love this gun, it's a blast to use and destroys Corpus. Sadly, that's all it appears to excel at. I haven't done any extensive testing, but from what I've seen it's "meh" vs Grineer and godawful vs Infested. I still like to use it, though. Call me jaded, but I'll take a subpar, fun-to-use weapon over the many "zomg point-and-click adventure zergfest sprint-slide-sprint-slide to the end fast gotta have it now" ones in this game more often than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk1991 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Notice how sometimes you're fighting grineer and it seems like your shield just dissapeared? Kraken. LV 15 Seekers were dealing like 400 damage with each shot (well, two shots). A single one demolished my iron skined rhino before i could realise. Now all I'll hear when I see Seekers is them shouting "RELEASE THE KRAKEN!" at the top of their malformed lungs as they rip me a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCatLad Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I've been meaning to try this gun out...thanks for the push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 The Kraken has never been a bad gun. Back in closed beta, it was the end-all for pistols. If you could manage the recoil, it was by far the best secondary you could get. Nowadays, with so many other pistols around, it's just meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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