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Its kinda hard to say, some players think and want the frames to be suits, and they even draw "unhelmeted" versions but in the game itself the tenno is usually referred to as a separate being from it's frames, in the message received from the Lotus with the Dex Furis Attatched she says: "tenno you have mastered many frames" and that means that frames are tools, maybe suits, but it clarifies another vague aspect, the gender, the lotus refers to us as one single tenno that masters different frames, taking this into consideration the gender of the frame is not the gender of the tenno, it's not that we run as a female tenno when playing ember and we play a male tenno when playing frost, many details point to the fact that we are always the same tenno, so that makes us some weird etheral entity or a shape shifter being, or whatever can fit in the different frames.

But i guess we are essentially human, if we define human as sentient beigns with free will.

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There humans, they don't actually have the "super powers" the warframe they wear does. You can think of it like the spartans in halo there humans but have a lot of reflex and strength enhancing modifications to there bodies. As well as the warframes that give them additional strength and the super powers I mentioned. 

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There humans, they don't actually have the "super powers" the warframe they wear does. You can think of it like the spartans in halo there humans but have a lot of reflex and strength enhancing modifications to there bodies. As well as the warframes that give them additional strength and the super powers I mentioned. 

 

Actually, it's the exact opposite: the Arid Fear victory text suggests that the Warframe is just a "lighting rod" - a conduit for the Tenno's powers.

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Its kinda hard to say, some players think and want the frames to be suits, and they even draw "unhelmeted" versions but in the game itself the tenno is usually referred to as a separate being from it's frames, in the message received from the Lotus with the Dex Furis Attatched she says: "tenno you have mastered many frames" and that means that frames are tools, maybe suits, but it clarifies another vague aspect, the gender, the lotus refers to us as one single tenno that masters different frames, taking this into consideration the gender of the frame is not the gender of the tenno, it's not that we run as a female tenno when playing ember and we play a male tenno when playing frost, many details point to the fact that we are always the same tenno, so that makes us some weird etheral entity or a shape shifter being, or whatever can fit in the different frames.

But i guess we are essentially human, if we define human as sentient beigns with free will.

Tenno is plural of Tenno. Tenno are not shape shifters, the is a bleedy fleshbag under that metal suit.

Actually, it's the exact opposite: the Arid Fear victory text suggests that the Warframe is just a "lighting rod" - a conduit for the Tenno's powers.

 This is furthered by the Ember Prime entry.

Tenno are humans mutated by something, likely the void, and the Warframes are things that would make Tony Stark cry.

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There humans, they don't actually have the "super powers" the warframe they wear does. You can think of it like the spartans in halo there humans but have a lot of reflex and strength enhancing modifications to there bodies. As well as the warframes that give them additional strength and the super powers I mentioned.

it's the Tenno that has the powers. The suit is armor and probably physical augmentation.
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Its kinda hard to say, some players think and want the frames to be suits, and they even draw "unhelmeted" versions but in the game itself the tenno is usually referred to as a separate being from it's frames, in the message received from the Lotus with the Dex Furis Attatched she says: "tenno you have mastered many frames" and that means that frames are tools, maybe suits, but it clarifies another vague aspect, the gender, the lotus refers to us as one single tenno that masters different frames, taking this into consideration the gender of the frame is not the gender of the tenno, it's not that we run as a female tenno when playing ember and we play a male tenno when playing frost, many details point to the fact that we are always the same tenno, so that makes us some weird etheral entity or a shape shifter being, or whatever can fit in the different frames.

But i guess we are essentially human, if we define human as sentient beigns with free will.

 

 

This, exactly. We, as the players, are the Tenno, and are a human or some sort of etheral being. The Warframes are just that; frames, suits, something we put on and change.

 

 

This doesn't quite explain the female/male differences, however. I kind of like to imagine lore beyond what the game says, and my mock "explanation" for this, is that each Warframe is built by or based on a person, at some point in time. For example, Ember used to be a person. This is mentioned in her lore, I think. So, my theory, is that each frame is being based on a person, and then they are mass-produced. This is why you can have four Embers in one room; they are just suits, being worn by Tenno, who are us players, playing as some sort of etheral being, and the reason that the male Tenno can be a female frame, is just because that frame was based upon a female originally.

 

 

Obviously, it's not official, or "fleshed out." But, I like to make up explanations for everything in the game, and this is my best idea behind the gender.

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tenno aren't in the warframes physically, mentally yes, physically no. possibly human, heavily augmented to control the frames. think of VR taken to the ultimate level. you feel the frame, access all it's abilities as if you are it...but are actually tucked away somewhere safe. it makes the frames the ultimate war machine and the tenno the ultimate soldiers.

 

you may destroy the frame, but they'll just get another.

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This, exactly. We, as the players, are the Tenno, and are a human or some sort of etheral being. The Warframes are just that; frames, suits, something we put on and change.

 

 

This doesn't quite explain the female/male differences, however. I kind of like to imagine lore beyond what the game says, and my mock "explanation" for this, is that each Warframe is built by or based on a person, at some point in time. For example, Ember used to be a person. This is mentioned in her lore, I think. So, my theory, is that each frame is being based on a person, and then they are mass-produced. This is why you can have four Embers in one room; they are just suits, being worn by Tenno, who are us players, playing as some sort of etheral being, and the reason that the male Tenno can be a female frame, is just because that frame was based upon a female originally.

 

 

Obviously, it's not official, or "fleshed out." But, I like to make up explanations for everything in the game, and this is my best idea behind the gender.

yes i think the same, that the gender is a vestigial feature of the original "model" and i think that gender is possibly quite meaningless in the universe of warframe because as we know cloning is a normal way of reproduction, so sex itself is kinda unnecessary, so if i was "manufacturing" frames i would not bother in taking the gender features out because they work fine as they are already and the gender features might not even be associated to sex or reproduction in a society accustomed to cloning.

 

For the guy who said that there is a body inside that bleeds, for all we know it could be the frame itself that bleeds...

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STEP ASIDE, TRANSHUMAN COMING THROUGH.  I AM THE AUTHORITY.

 

*ahem*

The Tenno are those somehow descended from Hayden Tenno, the protagonist from Dark Sector and the precursor to all Tenno.  We don't know if he's actually our progenitor in the normal sense, or if we use his strain of technocyte.  I suspect a bit of both, since we could be descended from people infected with the strain of technocyte that I like to call "TennoCyte".  If you read the lore entries in the codex for Ember and Excalibur you'll find out more. 

So this brings me to the question itself.

 

Are Tenno human?

We once were.  Now we are much more.  I mean, look at what we can do!  We were children once, that for certain.  Children with what I assume are dormant technocyte in our bodies, mutated and catalyzed by the Void, thanks to the Orokin.  We can bent reality to our will through various methods, such as raising the dead or manipulating antimatter, things normal people arent able to do. 

 

We are People, OP.  But we aren't human, we're something more, but at the same time, what makes humans, human?

Just because your physiology is different, does that make you not human? 

As a transhumanist, I say not.  What makes you human is what you do and feel and think.  Your actions, not your physical body make you who you are.

 

As for our biology?  We're not human.  We can't be Homo Sapiens biologically anymore.  We mutated.  We evolved. 

We're Tenno.

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The Tenno are most likely not descended from Hayden Tenno, but I'll definitely agree with you on the rest of what you wrote so here, have a +1 from me. There's just too much time between the two games. Proto-Armour confirms that Dark Sector took place in "ancient times" - by Orokin standard, and the Orokin Era itself took place a whole heck of a long time ago from when the Tenno unfreeze themselves at the start of Warframe's story/continuity.

 

HOWEVER

 

There could be some cultural influence from Hayden passed on to the Tenno; Excalibro's Codex entry mentions - with great reverence - that the Tenno weere trained in the ways of the "Warriors of Old", which could very well mean either how Hayden himself fought or how his "style" was refined after Dark Sector and then passed down to other hypothetical warriors taking after him, eventually creating a culture of it's own which was then turned into mythology, of sort, but the Orokin. Much like how we romanticize the people and culture of, for example, the Vikings or the Samurai (to mention a few).

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The Tenno are most likely not descended from Hayden Tenno, but I'll definitely agree with you on the rest of what you wrote so here, have a +1 from me. There's just too much time between the two games. Proto-Armour confirms that Dark Sector took place in "ancient times" - by Orokin standard, and the Orokin Era itself took place a whole heck of a long time ago from when the Tenno unfreeze themselves at the start of Warframe's story/continuity.

 

HOWEVER

 

There could be some cultural influence from Hayden passed on to the Tenno; Excalibro's Codex entry mentions - with great reverence - that the Tenno weere trained in the ways of the "Warriors of Old", which could very well mean either how Hayden himself fought or how his "style" was refined after Dark Sector and then passed down to other hypothetical warriors taking after him, eventually creating a culture of it's own which was then turned into mythology, of sort, but the Orokin. Much like how we romanticize the people and culture of, for example, the Vikings or the Samurai (to mention a few).

I'm totally on-board with your second paragraph.  I assume Dark Sector and Warframe take place in the same universe.  I also assume that there was a huge amount of time between the two.  More than likely, there were many more like Hayden Tenno after Dark Sector.  They may have formed the society of warriors who used 'the old ways."  

 

As far as whether the Tenno are human, I believe it was confirmed that the occupants of the cryopods and the people on rescue missions are Tenno without suits.  They are clearly humanoid, but whether they are human is up for debate.  They served the Orakin and maybe they too were Orakin.  We still don't know whether the Orakin were human.

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The Tenno were human; the Void corrupted them, gave them strange abilities that are focused through the use of Warframes and intense martial training. The fact that they 'kneel' in reverence like martial artists is both a sign that they indeed follow some sort of martial artist / warrior code and that they might requires to meditate to keep the Void's corruption at bay.

 

They're most likely having some kind of symbiotic link to the Void since they can draw into it to fuel their abilities which basically tells any sensible laws of physics to go screw themselves and likewise, the Prime Warframes allows them to instantly recharge their energy when going through a Void map by touching certain objects.

 

I'm totally on-board with your second paragraph.  I assume Dark Sector and Warframe take place in the same universe.  I also assume that there was a huge amount of time between the two.  More than likely, there were many more like Hayden Tenno after Dark Sector.  They may have formed the society of warriors who used 'the old ways."  

 

As far as whether the Tenno are human, I believe it was confirmed that the occupants of the cryopods and the people on rescue missions are Tenno without suits.  They are clearly humanoid, but whether they are human is up for debate.  They served the Orakin and maybe they too were Orakin.  We still don't know whether the Orakin were human.

 

It's been confirmed before that Warframe happens in the darkSector universe; however, given the timeframes, there's a wide gap between the ending of darkSector and what is considered the Orokin Era (the Golden Age). I'm guessing the Tenno took this name in honor of Hayden Tenno which is believed to be the one responsible for the rise of the Orokin Era in some way (perhaps he found something in the vault, at the end of darkSector that led to it).

 

Also, people tend to refer to Hayden as "the first Tenno" ... perhaps only in name or values. Note that they do mean "the first Tenno", not "the first Warframe". It's quite possible the Tenno evolved from an elite force of humans as a symbol of being "the best of what humanity has to offer" and that carried to when people started to come back from the Void changed then made to use Warframes.

 

Kind of how Special Forces are considered an elite military unit and the military is considered the official combat force of humanity; the Tenno could simply be the special forces of the Special Forces, only with added Void-fueled abilities, hypothetically speaking.

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