Lunamaniac Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 In warframe there are two factions at war with eachother: the Corpus and the Grineer. The Grineer are a fearsome race of clones hell bent on taking over the universe... to spread equality. Their aim is clearly to create a cooperative workforce of perfectly equal clones who will live contentedly in a communist utopia. To them the bloody violence and ruthlessness is merely a means to an end. The Corpus on the other hand have committed only the crime of supporting the free market, they are said to operate like and share a class system with "ancient mercantile guilds from the Old Earth". In other words they support a vastly unequal society in which profit and personal gain outweigh the concerns of the universe as a whole and ignores the impoverished and the unfortunate. The Grineer rebelled against this society, their conquest is the literal revolution predicted by Karl Marx. They are the proletariat rising up against their oppressors. We, the Tenno, are in a position of deciding in which direction the universe goes. Do we fight the revolution and return to a capitalist dystopia, or do we support the revolution and defeat the capitalist class - in the process of which many lives would be lost and the population gradually replaced by clones. The "balance" described by Lotus refers only to Grineer domination rather than the perpetual chaos of war, at which point the universe will enter an endless golden age of cooperation and equality. Noone will starve or want, noone will be born unequal, less or more intelligent, stronger or weaker. While we are presented with the illusion of choice the game rewards and encourages the player to side with the communist regime and in the process slowly abandon capitalist virtues. The "farming" players currently engage in is preparation for the communist utopia in which we will all work in actual farming and Credits will be replaced by "Contentedness Points" which will be divided equally among all player. Estimates say that we can expect this by Update 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IIJetfireII Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Update 19? in year 2020 ya mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathKoala Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 There's another faction coming, where do the infested factor into your delusions, and both factions are d1#~s anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genoscythe Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Grineer do not intend to have a clone world, they just have a clone army because its cheaper and grants them unlimited forces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Tenno are mercenaries without honour or glory. What the other factions are is not clear - there is lore, yes - but its content does not reflect on or affect the actual gameplay. Nontheless there might be motivation and behaviour comparable to current political systems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent_of_Change Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 so what I'm taking away from this is when I use a common battle cry of my own devising "Burn you commie hippie scum" I'm not being ironic at all? I mean damn... I need a new battle cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immolator1001 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 The Grineer are a fearsome race of clones hell bent on taking over the universe... to spread equality. No. They aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunamaniac Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share Posted March 28, 2014 There's another faction coming, where do the infested factor into your delusions Filler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowsFusion Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I'm going to have to say I enjoyed reading this. Too bad we can't just take over the universe ourselves because were just that awesome... or can we Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunamaniac Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share Posted March 28, 2014 No. They aren't. Yes they are. I'm going to have to say I enjoyed reading this. Too bad we can't just take over the universe ourselves because were just that awesome... or can we The game is trying to make you realize that you're just following orders and that freedom in a capitalist society is only an illusion. The only true freedom is in Grineer domination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiqalicious Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Nice theory, except for the whole playing the fact that the grineer have been shown as bullies who do whatever they like to anyone unable to defend themselves against them. That is to say: terrible theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturm-FalkeRDA Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) This game is trying to make me spend money. And its working. Should this be under the lore section? That's generally where speculation and the whole "pull things out of nothing" stuff goes. I don't obsorb the game's lore and use it to infulence my life, I'm not sprinting on rooftops and slashing people with small kichen knives.. It doesnt make me a buddhist, lol Edited March 28, 2014 by Sturm-FalkeRDA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevangarCronox Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I sense some 'merican thinking. I am not sure why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immolator1001 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Yes they are. What is the evidence of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunamaniac Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share Posted March 28, 2014 If you listen carefully you can sometimes hear the Grineer shouting "For equality!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhziDahaka Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I'm pretty sure the Grineer are like the Klingons of Warframe, particularly given Ruk's behavior. Even Captain Vor accuses you of having no honor when you face him. The Corpus? Totally Ferengi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowsFusion Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Then what does this make the lotus? I have always questioned why we just go ahead and accept her as our lord and savior, oh wait... But still it would be nice to know why we are doing the things we do without asking any questions. Maybe she is some sort of grineer master person twisting their ways into her own, or maybe she is trying to use us to establish some sort of dominance in the universe. It would be kind of cool if it turns out this whole time we thought we were fighting the good fight but really we were killing all the good guys and we are the horrible monsters. Now that would be something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immolator1001 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 If you listen carefully you can sometimes hear the Grineer shouting "For equality!". http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Grineer_Language The wiki says otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utarious Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I sense some 'merican thinking. I am not sure why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiqalicious Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 If you listen carefully you can sometimes hear the Grineer shouting "For equality!". "TENNO SKOOOM." Oh man you're right, that totally sounds like they're shouting for equality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhundis Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 In warframe there are two factions at war with eachother: the Corpus and the Grineer. The Grineer are a fearsome race of clones hell bent on taking over the universe... to spread equality. Their aim is clearly to create a cooperative workforce of perfectly equal clones who will live contentedly in a communist utopia. To them the bloody violence and ruthlessness is merely a means to an end. The Corpus on the other hand have committed only the crime of supporting the free market, they are said to operate like and share a class system with "ancient mercantile guilds from the Old Earth". In other words they support a vastly unequal society in which profit and personal gain outweigh the concerns of the universe as a whole and ignores the impoverished and the unfortunate. The Grineer rebelled against this society, their conquest is the literal revolution predicted by Karl Marx. They are the proletariat rising up against their oppressors. We, the Tenno, are in a position of deciding in which direction the universe goes. Do we fight the revolution and return to a capitalist dystopia, or do we support the revolution and defeat the capitalist class - in the process of which many lives would be lost and the population gradually replaced by clones. The "balance" described by Lotus refers only to Grineer domination rather than the perpetual chaos of war, at which point the universe will enter an endless golden age of cooperation and equality. Noone will starve or want, noone will be born unequal, less or more intelligent, stronger or weaker. While we are presented with the illusion of choice the game rewards and encourages the player to side with the communist regime and in the process slowly abandon capitalist virtues. The "farming" players currently engage in is preparation for the communist utopia in which we will all work in actual farming and Credits will be replaced by "Contentedness Points" which will be divided equally among all player. Estimates say that we can expect this by Update 19. Your a Democrat arn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NjaII Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I used to think that Corpus were better than Tennos and Grineers. The most human-like faction of the three. Then, I learned about Corpus indoctrination temples in Neptune. The Grineer are just a group of degenerate clones who have no future unless someone like Tyl Regor manage to reverse the effects of intensive cloning. And we are not better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunamaniac Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share Posted March 28, 2014 Your a Democrat arn't you? I am a citizen of planet Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneakatone Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 what wrong with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbetti Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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