Something That Bugs Me About The Excalibur Proto Skin

[Kaokasalis]

With the release of the Excalibur Proto skin some questions popped into my mind.

First if we look at how Haydens arm looked before getting the suit.

 

We can see the metalic arm on the proto skin is part of Hayden and not the actual suit which makes me wonder why its there. Also coloured white for convenience.

 

Last thing that bugs me is why the metal skin is exposed. Was he unable to fit in the suit with his arm? Wouldnt removing part of the suit damage it and prevent it from working properly?

 

What do you guys think?

[Archistopheles]

I just thought it looked neat.... But I'm obviously not an expert.

[Orbister]

I think this is a nostalgia item that does not aim to make much sense regarding lore, logic, or context, i own it, its a cool novelty... nothing else... Immortal Excalibur FTW

 

Its like an "iconic" outfit, its all about the look. Functionality, "realism" and credibility are not a priority in this case.

Edited March 28, 2014 by Orbister

[ValhaHazred]

I'm still not sure that's literally supposed to be Hayden Tenno's suit. Inspired by, based on, a later or more evolved version maybe.

[CapnFusterCluck]

Perhaps during the suit's excavation, that specific part of the suit fell/ripped off or something. 

 

Or, if that it isn't the case, for cosmetic purposes. 

 

I like the arm. Gives some sort of... alien feel to it.

[Llyssa]

It's also possible that's how all excals are infected, and the suit is designed around that infection.

[spiralmenace]

pretty sure he just didn't don that part of the armor for ease of glaive access

[Aure7]

It's also possible that's how all excals are infected, and the suit is designed around that infection.

according to the lore, all tenno are infected and the suits are designed around it, amplifying the powers.

[Stormandreas]

The metal arm is one of the most significant parts you see in Dark Sector. You run around for the majority of the game seeing this metal arm with the Glaive, so they incorporated that into the skin.

[OriVerda]

I'd like to see is as ceremonial or ritualistic scarring the Tenno do themselves to honor their past. Hence why I use my Grand Master gear in endgame with pride. Pride I tell you! Honoring my past!

[OniDax]

I'd like to see is as ceremonial or ritualistic scarring the Tenno do themselves to honor their past. Hence why I use my Grand Master gear in endgame with pride. Pride I tell you! Honoring my past!

 

I don't use the Skana Prime. Did use it, but it sucks. I go melee only with the Orthos Prime.

[RibbonRobbin]

Perhaps somewhere in time, he ripped off his sleeve? Jk, but lore hints that he did much more after Dark Sector.

[Ionus]

Perhaps somewhere in time, he ripped off his sleeve? Jk, but lore hints that he did much more after Dark Sector.

 

No, lore hints that Dark Sector and Warframe are too far apart in timeline to have any bearing on each other. People who looked to the Proto skin for anything more than an Easter egg nostalgia item are trying too hard.

[HillsAndTheSea]

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Warframe Lore

It’s without surprise that the Proto Armor has raised questions about the Lore of Warframe. For many players, Dark Sector was the beginning. The Proto Armor has indicated that yes, Dark Sector and Warframe are inextricably linked. Stay tuned for more!

 

 

but yeah, my guess is they just took the whole mesh from dark sector and converted it too warframe without editing,  it would be the most effective thing to do and also be the best way of giving the "oh look you are playing hayden tenno from dark sector" feel

Edited March 29, 2014 by HillsAndTheSea

[(PSN)octus]

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Last thing that bugs me is why the metal skin is exposed. Was he unable to fit in the suit with his arm? Wouldnt removing part of the suit damage it and prevent it from working properly?

 

-snip

if you had a radical metal arm, you would want everyone to know how awesome it is. just look at cable from the x-men series. he has the techno-organic virus and it makes him look so cool. its like a pirate with a hook hand or someone with scars on their face, it just makes you cooler.

 

(i understand about the integrity of the suit argument though)

[Ionus]

 

 

 

but yeah, my guess is they just took the whole mesh from dark sector and converted it too warframe without editing,  it would be the most effective thing to do and also be the best way of giving the "oh look you are playing hayden tenno from dark sector" feel

 

 

If this is true, DE is digging themselves a hell of a hole by including the arm, Hayden's signature feature, for the skin.

Edited March 29, 2014 by Ionus

[OniDax]

Perhaps somewhere in time, he ripped off his sleeve? Jk, but lore hints that he did much more after Dark Sector.

What are you talking about? It's very obvious he did this during Dark Sector from the moment it shows him put it on. He does this because he creates the glaive from his infested Technocyte arm, and wants to keep doing so, so he cut off the right sleeve.

[HillsAndTheSea]

If this is true, DE is digging themselves a hell of a hole by including the arm, Hayden's signature feature, for the skin.

 

lol you are looking to deep into it. it makes more sense and serves as a better anniversary celebration to just reintroduce the whole thing, rather than leave out a signature feature, the entire point was to connect dark sector

 

why the hell wouldnt a throwback skin include all the features? i wouldnt buy a classic captain america figurine and expect a circular shield

[NevanChambers]

No, lore hints that Dark Sector and Warframe are too far apart in timeline to have any bearing on each other. People who looked to the Proto skin for anything more than an Easter egg nostalgia item are trying too hard.

Events from 2000 + years ago affect our modern world. I do not think  it is far fetched to believe that what happened in dark sector might have shaped the very nature of warframe.

[.Talia.]

Here is video proof that Dark Sector is directly conected to Warframe. 

 

[neKroMancer]

To be honest, it's a skin. I don't really look into it that deep for extra meaning.

It's like Heroes of the Strom with Diablo riding rainbow pony.

[Morec0]

Events from 2000 + years ago affect our modern world. I do not think  it is far fetched to believe that what happened in dark sector might have shaped the very nature of warframe.

 

Just finished watching a Dark Sector playthrough, and here's what I've pieced together:

 

 

SPOILER WARNINGS ARE G0D:

and cookies are Jesus

 

Mezner's attempt to activate/collect all the Infected went through successfully, partially due to the fact that the Technocyte developed its own sentience somewhere along the way because of his tampering (hence how Mezner was seemingly reanimated after Hayden killed him) and it was able to continue the transmission. For whatever reason, Hayden was able to resist it, so he was able to go on to do whatever he did while it spread across the rest of the world - I base this off of the final line being "that was how it started"; SOMETHING began that day, and without a strong indication that Hayden was able to STOP the transmission from collecting the Infested I think we can assume that it was whatever Mezner (or, perhaps, more appropriately: the Technocyte Virus) was out to do.

 

So what we then have are the humans of earth fighting against a new breed of monster. Millions were likely wiped out, leaving only a handful (comparatively speaking) that, like Hayden, were able to resist the greater infection to some extent (maybe not have powers as well, but were at least not consumed by it). They grew, and over time they became strong enough to forge and Empire (the Orokin Empire) - humanity was changed in its coming, now they were the Orokin (which is why it could be said, by them looking back and thinking of the previous humans not as a separate thing but as Orokin as well to some degree, the Orokin (humans) developed the Technocyte - that or it was later rediscovered by them). Around this time you also had the formation of the original Tenno Order, in whatever form it came in.

 

THEN enter the Sentients, and whatever they are, to wage war against the Orokin. The war goes HORRIBLY wrong for the Orokin, and so they turn to the Tenno order, take children with the highest concentration of Technocyte in them (and, by extension, the most likely to develop some sort of powers) and sent them into the Void to try and supercharge those powers or get them to mature to some degree - or perhaps this all happened BEFORE the Sentients showed up and they were simply looking to test out a few theories with Orokin test subjects? We'll have to see.

 

Either way: the war rages, the Tenno and their Orokin-created Warframes fight back. It rages for years, and in that time the Tenno develop their own society within the Orokin, which leads to the production of new Tenno with different powers (via Sci Fi genetics) and to the Tenno design of Warframes (the regular frames, in contrast to the Orokin Prime). The Tenno are victorious, they then turn against the Orokin for whatever reason, and then lock themselves into cryosleep.

 

Fast forward thousands upon thousands of years into the future: the Tenno begin to awake, their memories damages/completely wiped by the extended Cryosleep (versus the in-out sort of sleep the Stalker presumably had that allowed him to last this long), and find themselves where we are now. Making the decisions that we make now.

 

It will take more lore to fully determine what adds up and what needs alteration, but I think this is as good a place as any to start with a chronological progression.

[Orbister]

if you had a radical metal arm, you would want everyone to know how awesome it is. just look at cable from the x-men series. he has the techno-organic virus and it makes him look so cool. its like a pirate with a hook hand or someone with scars on their face, it just makes you cooler.

 

(i understand about the integrity of the suit argument though)

So that is the reason?... to look cool? to pick up chicks?... mind blown...

[Ritchel]

sometimes lore doesnt matter if its cooler this way.

[(PSN)octus]

So that is the reason?... to look cool? to pick up chicks?... mind blown...

or dudes, or whatever you want man. im easy.