meatgravymush Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 (edited) It's one of those things that in theory should forge communities, but in practice has people exploit pub players for their own personal benefit. The issue is that people are making public survival games with the intent of going for 50+ minutes. That, in itself, is not the issue. The issue is that alerts, operations etc. pop up and given individual time constraints, both in real life and in-game, it isn't always feasible to stay as long as others want to. There needs to be the same system in place for these missions as there is for defense: if you want to extract early, then you should be allowed to do so without the other players given you have stayed the minimum of 5 minutes. I'd even like to extend this option to all other missions for pubs without 'item at extraction' constraints; that way people who don't want to feel stressed to run to the end won't be so. Edited March 29, 2014 by meatgravymush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsAndTheSea Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 individual extraction is not possible with the current system, it is not a feasible idea due to hosting issues, and or easy exploitation when a key is required. it is also extremely easy to just speak to your teammates at some point to see if your intented durations are the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Inb4 "Moved to proper section". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordAsmolicious Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Its generally polite to ask how long. So far ive seen people just type stuff like "30?" Even that despite it being short is rather good if ya ask me. I dont like short runs either but 15 min at the least makes me a happy Tenno. though unfortunatly knowing pubs some people dont speak english or dont bother to anwser. Most cases ive seen being European player most of them didnt speak english. All that we would need for survival missions or in general a better way to communicate. So say if i happen to join Three Russians and none of em speak english... give us a way to talk to them. maybe a set of / chat commands that Auto translate to other users client language. No clue if such a thing is even possible. but it would make lives easier for alot players worldwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatgravymush Posted March 29, 2014 Author Share Posted March 29, 2014 individual extraction is not possible with the current system, it is not a feasible idea due to hosting issues, and or easy exploitation when a key is required. it is also extremely easy to just speak to your teammates at some point to see if your intented durations are the same It is obivously feasible, because it has already been implemented (see defense missions, or handling host disconnects during any other mission). How exactly is a player supposed to know what the intent of the game was? There isn't a lobby where you can pick and choose what game you join. If you happen to enter a game with people who wish to go until they get a key and they are incapable of communicating that with you since they don't know any of the languages you do, then conflict is unavoidable. Its generally polite to ask how long. So far ive seen people just type stuff like "30?" Even that despite it being short is rather good if ya ask me. I dont like short runs either but 15 min at the least makes me a happy Tenno. though unfortunatly knowing pubs some people dont speak english or dont bother to anwser. Most cases ive seen being European player most of them didnt speak english. All that we would need for survival missions or in general a better way to communicate. So say if i happen to join Three Russians and none of em speak english... give us a way to talk to them. maybe a set of / chat commands that Auto translate to other users client language. No clue if such a thing is even possible. but it would make lives easier for alot players worldwide. Again it's impossible to tell what the game was intended for, since there isn't a lobby where you can pick and choose games with descriptions. If you join a game and you're 5+ minutes into it and your teammate(s) has(ve) failed to tell you that they intend on going 40+ minutes, then you are forced to forfeit your progression simply due to the negligence of the host. I am not talking about keys either. Everybody tries to maximize time spent in tower survival. I'm talking about the missions used for progressing through the solar system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorCensored Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 For alerts, use the recruiting channel to recruit like minded individuals. When everyone is there for the same reason, it goes faster. For regular PUGs, always ask about times before setting off the alarm. If you get no response, either quit immediately or play until it gets to be too much. In the latter case, just head to extraction when you start getting overwhelmed and hold there. Most of the time, some one else will head to extraction right away. Alternately, no one will go to extraction or remember to activate life support, and you'll be the sole survivor when everyone suffocates and bleeds out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulzscha Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Moved to the proper section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keltik0ne Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Inb4 "Moved to proper section". Bloody psychic Lokis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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