Fenrisulfr Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) Just noticed that people in general chat were being kicked by the KickBot by saying word "g.ay" in any context whatsoever, myself included. What. The. F***. Seriously? http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/gay There are 4 different meanings listed in that dictionary for word "g.ay". None of which is even remotely derogatory, even though it is occasionally used as insult (a very dumb insult, while we're at it). If that is the only reason for it being a kickable offense, by same logic words "monkey", "cow" and "retard" should also be banned. I find it far more insulting for it to be considered offensive word than when people actually use it as insult. I know you Americans are all touchy-feely when it comes to offensiveness and censorship, but for Gods sake, stop. Just stop. EDIT: The word "g.ay" is apparently also censored on forums. God@(*()$dammit. Edited March 30, 2014 by Fenrisulfr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ov3rd0se Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 The better question is, why is there any cenorship? The game is rated M for mature. That means you should be old enough that you can take seeing curse words. We're all adults here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrisulfr Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 Precisely. Also, here's a related subject: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2229030/Doh-Channel-4-admits-wrong-censor-word-gay-episode-The-Simpsons-aired-lunchtime.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttariel Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) Its a little hard to tell what word you mean, is it the rude but still common version for butt also known as a donkey subform ? Or is it the common short cut for homosexual people that still gets used more as an offense ? Edited March 30, 2014 by Ttariel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerZeyCJ Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Just noticed that people in general chat were being kicked by the KickBot by saying word "#$$" in any context whatsoever, myself included. What. The. F***. Seriously? http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/gay There are 4 different meanings listed in that dictionary for word "#$$". None of which is even remotely derogatory, even though it is occasionally used as insult (a very dumb insult, while we're at it). If that is the only reason for it being a kickable offense, by same logic words "monkey", "cow" and "retard" should also be banned. I find it far more insulting for it to be considered offensive word than when people actually use it as insult. I know you Americans are all touchy-feely when it comes to offensiveness and censorship, but for Gods sake, stop. Just stop. EDIT: The word "g.ay" is apparently also censored on forums. God@(*()$dammit. Just throwing it out there, but DE is Canadian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrisulfr Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 Nah, its g.ay. I'll edit it all now so there isn't confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroraSonicBoom Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Online gaming communities are notorious for being very immature and agressive. The term "gạy" used in a derogatory way by a sizeable number of members, which I guess is what they tried to prevent by censoring it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrisulfr Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 Just throwing it out there, but DE is Canadian I know, I meant north americans in general. I believe there are plenty of similarities between those two cultures, at least in this subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttariel Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) Yeah the problem is that while the word itself is not to bad even for &*$$sexual people, way to many are inmature when it comes to it and use it as an offense. (The correct term for ths type of sexuality is censored ? haha DE might wanna take a look at this) Edited March 30, 2014 by Ttariel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrisulfr Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 Online gaming communities are notorious for being very immature and agressive. The term "gạy" used in a derogatory way by a sizeable number of members, which I guess is what they tried to prevent by censoring it. And by doing so, they are actually enforcing the derogatory meaning. Even so, censorship is not the answer to this. I'd rather take the insult rather than have half of my sentence be censored because someone, somewhere might be slightly offended because same word has alternative meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyScootaloo Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Hey. This game needs to be made safe for kids! Be responsible! Stop using those crude words! (implied sarcasm) I agree, there is no reason to censor something that people are just going to find alternate ways to say out loud, anyways. What we need is moderation, not censorship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mankeulv Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) As a bisexual polyamorous man, I usually sit back and enjoy the show with a smile when things like this get surfaced in the forums. I usually leave satisfied with the entertainment :) Edit: Also, none of those two words are censored. I win! :D Edited March 30, 2014 by Mankeulv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrisulfr Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 Now that would be full-on ridiculous. Hey. This game needs to be made safe for kids! Be responsible! Stop using those crude words! (implied sarcasm) I agree, there is no reason to censor something that people are just going to find alternate ways to say out loud, anyways. What we need is moderation, not censorship. Agreed, and well said. Also, as Steve Hughes used to say in his routines: "You're offended? So @(*()$ what?" Sad thing being, I don't even know who finds "g.ay" offensive. Well, beside religious fanatics and 12-year old kids on the internet. Although I'm not one, I personally have several bi and homosexual friends, and I know for a fact that they do find quite offensive when word g.ay is being censored. When I think of it, I don't remember when was the last time they called themselves "homosexuals", as opposed to "g.ay", which is used much more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeePee Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 I find it funny that &*$$ sapiens is censored as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSp33d Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) Actually it's spammed all the time as an "insult" in America. Well, less so now and days, but yeah. Also, chill the bloody hell out. This is the last thing you need to swear up and down like a sailor about. People have pointed it out before. Send in a ticket if it bugs you that much. Edited March 30, 2014 by SolidSp33d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nintega Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 The intention, as with any censorship, is to prevent the use of the word to insult or offend people. We're in a world where homophobia and gay bashing is rampant, and scarily, acceptable in some nations. However, censoring the words makes zero difference. In any situation where someone would use the word offensively, and it was censored, the meaning of the word would be understood just fine from context. So it really shouldn't be censored, because as it's been mentioned, people find it more offended when the word IS censored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaosdreamer Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Theire is option to take off the censorship but yet with that word gây it does not work and still block it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunamaniac Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 As others have also pointed out, it's far more rude to censor homosexuality than not. When people use it rudely it's no different than close minded people generalizing Americans. Yet we don't censor the word American? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryoClaw Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 The better question is, why is there any cenorship? The game is rated M for mature. That means you should be old enough that you can take seeing curse words. We're all adults here agree i hope a dev reads this topic and replies with a constructive answer ... or else i'll bump the topic till we get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katakuna Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 I'm offended that bisexual and heterosexual aren't censored but &*$$sexual is. I demand an "all or nothing" policy on sexual preferences. /obligatorysarcasm Not that it matters if words are censored or not. The intention of the curse or "offensive" word doesn't diminish so long as context is applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaSnail Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Because logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nnazqul Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 we've grown to be afraid of words, how dumb is that people are starving all around the world yet we're more concerned about entitled man children being offended at random words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrisulfr Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 I would definitely like for some kind of official answer on this matter. Reasoning behind the decision on this and other questionably "offensive" words would also be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methanoid Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) theres written meaning, then theres implied meaning, typically the implied form is the insulting part, nothing wrong with covering their bases tbh, its a sensible decision. Edited March 30, 2014 by Methanoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrisulfr Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 Like I said, following that logic, words such as "cow", "monkey", "retard" should also be covered. Actually, so should words like "stupid" or "idiot", since sole written meaning of them is to insult something or someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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