S0ulre4per Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Am i the only 1 who thinks there is something evil about Lotus? .Maybe there is something more powerfull than Tenno. For example it could go like this - a cutscene, Lotus is speaking with somebody (cant see him because he is in the shadows and stuff) The Thing is asking if everything is going as planed, Lotus says yes, the grineer wont be a problem anymore. The thing answers - Perfect, initiate operation Omega.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direcyphre Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 You mean the whole conducting controlled genocide upon Corpus and Grineer? Nope, never had a problem with that. I have no idea what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0ulre4per Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 You mean the whole conducting controlled genocide upon Corpus and Grineer? Nope, never had a problem with that. I have no idea what you're talking about. I mean maybe the Lotus is a corporation and wants to take control (something like grineer goals but bigger)....not make balance and stop evil grineer/corpus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio21 Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 since we dont know a lot of the story many players have concerns about lotus etc if we are the bad guys etc etc the De have said at a livestream i think that indeed we are the good guys and we will learn more later thats all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron1357 Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 we all know the lotus IS EVIL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--GOOLOO_GOOLOO_GOOLOO-- Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 I want to believe that Lotus is evil and has to be a reason why the Stalker attacks us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlayn Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Am i the only 1 who thinks there is something evil about Lotus? .Maybe there is something more powerfull than Tenno. For example it could go like this - a cutscene, Lotus is speaking with somebody (cant see him because he is in the shadows and stuff) The Thing is asking if everything is going as planed, Lotus says yes, the grineer wont be a problem anymore. The thing answers - Perfect, initiate operation Omega.................. Been there done that... Lotus Project Conspiracy Series Pt. 1 https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/98371-the-lotus-project-conspiracy/?hl=%2Blotus+%2Bproject+%2Bconspiracy Pt. 2 https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/99550-the-lotus-project-conspiracy-pt-2-keep-my-mother-out-of-this-edition/?hl=%2Blotus+%2Bproject+%2Bconspiracy Pt. 3 https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/139654-lotus-project-conspiracy-pt-3-lotus-has-always-lead-tenno/?hl=%2Blotus+%2Bproject+%2Bconspiracy Pt. 4 https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/143650-lotus-project-conspiracy-pt-4-the-void-demons/?hl=%2Blotus+%2Bproject+%2Bconspiracy Pt. 5 https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/148454-lotus-project-conspiracy-pt-5-ew-dont-say-that-about-your-cousin-vor/?hl=%2Blotus+%2Bproject+%2Bconspiracy Pt. 6 https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/176043-lotus-project-conspiracy-pt-6-the-experiment-and-the-army-of-tenno/?hl=%2Blotus+%2Bproject+%2Bconspiracy I have spent forever thinking of it all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareT12 Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 I don't think so. In fact I do believe she does take the whole balance thing really seriously. It's not like the Corpus and Grineer are saints neither (the rich nuts and the enslavers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardorax Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Isn't there always something evil abotu someone who says your justified of killing 100 to maintain a balance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)NicoTheSneakyGuy Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Sorry I can't hear you, I'm too busy exterminating entire races to "Keep the balance". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NjaII Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 You are an heretic. I will have to hunt you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace24 Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 I've never trusted her instructions. I mean, who is she, anyway? There's no way the Tenno are the good guys in this scenario, after all the political leaders we've assassinated, the imbalances we've caused in the solar system. it's quite obvious that the lotus has an unstoppable power at her fingertips, and she wastes no time in utilizing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--GOOLOO_GOOLOO_GOOLOO-- Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 THE FINAL BOSS WILL BE LOTUS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llyssa Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 since we dont know a lot of the story many players have concerns about lotus etc if we are the bad guys etc etc the De have said at a livestream i think that indeed we are the good guys and we will learn more later thats all This. She is Lotus, friend and guide. They've been trying to fix the issues where she's less than heroic. It still takes some work, but they've generally been pressing the concept as best is possible. Expect more as bosses are reworked and more of the future systems roll out. The lotus conspiracies abound(there's quite a few questionable activities and phrases), but we are, ultimately, supposed to be the "guardians of the galaxy". Or, well, at least, the part of the galaxy we can reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 You are an heretic. I will have to hunt you. You shall do no such thing! Fear not, my fellow Tenno, the Conflagration shall stand by your side. --- RPing aside, the leaked Lore suggests she see (at the least) views the Tenno as "hers", so there may be something there. Alternatively, her use of "my Tenno" could be meant to be similar to "my children" and to paint the Lotus as a motherly figure - which could tie in with the Ember Codex entry fairly nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) Am i the only 1 who thinks there is something evil about Lotus? .Maybe there is something more powerfull than Tenno. For example it could go like this - a cutscene, Lotus is speaking with somebody (cant see him because he is in the shadows and stuff) The Thing is asking if everything is going as planed, Lotus says yes, the grineer wont be a problem anymore. The thing answers - Perfect, initiate operation Omega.................. Why do we need another thread about this? There's nothing in the game that suggests the Lotus is evil. You want the Lotus to be evil. Lotus wants balance. She's hardcore for balance. We know why Stalker hunts us. We, along with the Stalker, served the Orokin Empire. We turned on the Orokin at the orders of the Lotus. Stalker hates us for it, and hunts us for retribution. Yes, Lotus is a motherly figure. Edited March 30, 2014 by AntoineFlemming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlayn Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 RPing aside, the leaked Lore suggests she see (at the least) views the Tenno as "hers", so there may be something there. Alternatively, her use of "my Tenno" could be meant to be similar to "my children" and to paint the Lotus as a motherly figure - which could tie in with the Ember Codex entry fairly nicely. Could have been saved by the Lotus at some point in time, or she showed them kindness, and in turn the Tenno swore loyalty to her. Similar stuff happens back in the old days when honor was a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishki88 Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 I like Rebecca in a professional way, I hate the Lotus in all ways. Her little snarkly comment after defeating the 3 Grinstooges left a bad taste in my mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Lotus wants balance. She's hardcore for balance. That doesn't make her GOOD, though. After all: the balance she (at this time anyway) is having is strive for will lead to endless war and countless more deaths, whereas it would be more merciful for EVERYONE for us to just start taking out the high-value targets on either side and rule the galaxy. Setting up an order through the means of a new Empire. But that's conjecture. Either way, at the best I'd fit the Lotus in as a Lawful Neutral figure, rather than Good or Evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto1398 Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptWasea Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Could have been saved by the Lotus at some point in time, or she showed them kindness, and in turn the Tenno swore loyalty to her. Similar stuff happens back in the old days when honor was a thing. "Stand on the ashes of a trillion dead souls, and ask the ghosts if honor matters" - Javik (sorry, couldn't resist). Honor means nothing if you are working for an injust cause. THE FINAL BOSS WILL BE LOTUS! Can't wait for that moment. Lotus will have to prove herself if she wants to be trusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) I like Rebecca in a professional way, I hate the Lotus in all ways. Her little snarkly comment after defeating the 3 Grinstooges left a bad taste in my mouth. Why? Because you never heard that before? I guess you've never taken orders from someone before. Her snarky comment is true. The safer thing is to do what she says. Ok, you beat them. Those that lose to the three would be better off obeying her. Anyone who has command over you will say the same thing. 'Good that you beat them, but follow my orders next time. They're in your best interest.' Plus you obviously dismiss what she says at extraction. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever people like you only look at one comment without looking at her last comment. Edited March 30, 2014 by AntoineFlemming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishki88 Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) Why? Because you never heard that before? I guess you've never taken orders from someone before. Her snarky comment is true. The safer thing is to do what she says. Ok, you beat them. Those that lose to the three would be better off obeying her. Anyone who has command over you will say the same thing. 'Good that you beat them, but follow my orders next time. They're in your best interest.' Plus you obviously dismiss what she says at extraction. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever people like you only look at one comment without looking at her last comment. Yeah, thats cool and all but.... Did you go to extraction when she stated so? And did the mission end? Edited March 30, 2014 by Ishki88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) Yeah, thats cool and all but.... Did you go to extraction when she stated so? And did the mission end? I defeated the G3, finished the mission, and went to extraction where she actually shows concern for the Tenno and considers it a victory because the Tenno survive. Kinda pathetic that an in-game character leaves a bad taste in your mouth. An in-game character can't prove anything to you. You're basically saying that DE has to prove it to you, and they don't have to prove anything to you. Just accept it when they establish specific lore. If they haven't said Lotus is evil, then she isn't until they say so. Edited March 31, 2014 by AntoineFlemming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immolator1001 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Ya we all get that feeling but DE has explicitly stated that she is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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