NevanChambers Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) The whole thing about the prime access seems unfair but I believe both DE and Sony are to share in the responsibility of making the users happy. I find it funny how pc people always say PS4 users complain too much about equality when we all know they would be complaining about the same thing were they in our position. Also I think DE should know by now that we PS4 users will demand equality anytime we are not treated fairly so this sort of thing should not be happening this late in the game.No in your position my attitude would be the same as Andy the destroyer. I would simply be greatful to play such an awesome game. It might inform the way I purchase things but I would certainly not come into the forums spewing ill informed entitled rage. The day I feel the need to do that is the last day I play the game. The forums would be a better place if more people had this attitude.That being said the forums have me nearly convinced the worst thing DE has ever done was to even consider the ps4 port. Finally console racism? Seriously ?!? people aren't laughing at you not because you don't have a point but you did express it in a hyperbolic fashion using buzzword to attempt to invoke an emotional response of the severity you are experiencing. Which shows both you need to get a life if your that mad and some pretty extreme ignorance in that console users are not a race. Moreover it belittles the sacrifices those in history have made in the name of equality and trivializes the pain and suffering inflicted on people as a result of racism. Seriously go look up what a lynching actually could entail and seethe parallel you are trying to draw. If you have a decent bone in your body you'll feel ashamed. Edited March 31, 2014 by NevanChambers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 The only thing that we want, is the ability to purchase $139 pack and get 4,200+ platinum... I am not asking for upgrade possibilities. I am asking for equal platinum possibility. 2,600 plat vs 4,200 plat is not fair at all! Alright, and it's fine to be upset about the difference, but threatening to spam the forums isn't going to win you any supporters. It's best to approach things with a level head and a calm attitude -- you're much more likely to get help that way. You also need to bear in mind the differences between PC and PS4. Because there are no real restrictions on PC, DE can use an upgrade system for the Prime Access. With PS4, they have to deal with Sony, and it sounds as if they haven't been able to do the same thing. The latest offering was them attempting to do just that, and it was a learning experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)St_NickelStew Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Players on PC can upgrade their Prime Access. If I buy a lower pack, I can just pay the difference to get the next step up if I want to upgrade. I might be wrong, but it sounds like that wasn't an option for PS4 players during Ember Prime Access (I.E. you bought something and you were stuck with it. If you wanted to upgrade, you had to pay full value instead of the difference). DE tried to open that option up to PS4 players by splitting it into parts, so "upgrading" was a possibility. You're liable to get banned for that, and I will have no pity at all for you when it happens. You're little more than a child throwing a temper tantrum at that point. But there is still an issue of why could PS4 users spend as much money as PC users, if they purchased all available packages, and receive much less Platinum as part of that purchase. I can certainly understand that PS4 players will have less flexibility in the market. But the Ember Prime package (on PS4) included more Platinum than the Rhino Prime package. Does that really make a lot of sense? In short, the current Rhino Prime package on PS4 includes less Platinum than the previous Ember Prime PS4 package, and less than the Rhino Prime package on PC. Something seems amiss ... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 But there is still an issue of why could PS4 users spend as much money as PC users, if they purchased all available packages, and receive much less Platinum as part of that purchase. I can certainly understand that PS4 players will have less flexibility in the market. But the Ember Prime package (on PS4) included more Platinum than the Rhino Prime package. Does that really make a lot of sense? In short, the current Rhino Prime package on PS4 includes less Platinum than the previous Ember Prime PS4 package, and less than the Rhino Prime package on PC. Something seems amiss ... . From what I can recall, there's a 10 dollar price difference between the PC and PS4 versions (with the PS4 version being cheaper because it has less plat), but you are right in that it doesn't seem fair. 1600 plat is worth far more than 10 dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)unclemonster Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 What I see is a knee jerk rage. PC has near to 0 restrictions on how things need to / can be implemented, PS4 is heavily restricted by Sony. You won't accept that as an answer, you use one of the stupidest arguments in existence as your core point, and then you get mad at DE. If any one is causing... hehhehehehhahahaha, (man i can't even say it), any way if anyone/thing is causing your issue it is Sony making PS4 more restrictive than an open platform like the PC, because of their proprietary hold on it. And hey Sony is definitely biased. WRONG...it was DE decision to simply screw over the PS4 population... they could have made it the same as pc (with no upgrade options), but chose not to... Ember Package and current $149 plat package is all the proof I need to know the truth.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) WRONG...it was DE decision to simply screw over the PS4 population... Because companies intentionally go out of their way to make customers mad. Edited March 31, 2014 by Vargras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NevanChambers Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 WRONG...it was DE decision to simply screw over the PS4 population... they could have made it the same as pc (with no upgrade options), but chose not to... Ember Package and current $149 plat package is all the proof I need to know the truth.... What about all the ps4 people who complained about only that one being offered for ember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emeere Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) We're not blaming Sony for anything, we have to work with what we're given and through continuous discussion this package was made. The main issue was the inability to upgrade between packs on the PSN store. By mirroring what the PC Prime Access advertised on the PS4 without the ability to upgrade would be unfair. We thought by splitting up the Stomp pack essentially by offering Roar pack and Accessories this would offer PS4 players better options. This was not received with 100% love and we understand that. We've discussed new options each time a Prime Access program goes live and we will continue to do so. It was an honest mistake, they were legitimately going out of their way to try and make everyone happy. If you've found an issue with what they've done why don't you raise your point in a constructive, calm manner instead of completely flipping out? Edited March 31, 2014 by Emeere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letter13 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 PEOPLE LIKE ME THAT ARE PAYING FOR THE UPDATES HAVE A RIGHT TO VOICE FRUSTRATIONS WHEN SOMETHING IS NOT FAIR. First, calm down. Second, no one is making you pay to play. Third, voicing your frustrations in a calm, concise and constructive manner will get you much further. WRONG...it was DE decision to simply screw over the PS4 population... DE didn't wake up one morning and say "Hey let's figure out how to screw over the PS4 population". They're not "out to get you" or anything of the sort. If you would be willing to take a moment to cool down, you might realize this. Either way this thread has been addressed by [DE]Megan, and now it's derailing into a thread that's bashing the developers, so I'm going to go ahead and lock it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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