Feedback And Suggestion On Slightly Fixing The Horrible Torid...

[Tar_Spit_Fire]

as for the title of this thread, im not meaning that the damage of the torid....

in the previous update torid gets a total rework of it's design *great work on that DE* that makes this weapon slightly interesting but in fact this gun is still one of the worst primary weapon you can use by my opinion... not in term of damage, but the slow projectile speed and heavy arcing

and i know that some of you professional players would say you can use this in combo with vauban but i am not using vauban at all time and plus if you are using this weapon on the other mission rather than on defense mission... this weapon will prove difficult to use...

yea i know too that this weapon is suppose to be used as a gas grenade/mine that you can be like place a toxic cloud on the floor and wait until the enemy runs by... but, although you can use this weapon and shoot the projectile on floor and create a toxic cloud at there damaging enemies that runs by, but other than the melee enemy in the game... most of the enemy will take cover and shoot you from afar... making this weapon a slight difficult to use in many situation.... even the enemy runs into the toxic cloud, they will not likely to stay in that area for very long time making this another disadvantage of torid... and this weapon's projectile speed and heavy arcing is making this weapon worst, the arc and the projectile speed is making this weapon hard to land even one dart on 'normally' running enemy...

so here's a suggestion... try slightly increase this weapon's fire rate and make it become a dart gun type weapon  that have faster projectile speed *not hit-scan* but like the seer pistol or boltor projectile speed with a bit projectile arcing drop over distance like all the bow have... and that's it, now we can land the toxic cloud dart on enemy more efficiently and this makes the torid more efficient weapon to use on most situation...

Edited April 2, 2014 by Tar_Spit_Fire

[SpilockT_T]

Or maybe they could make the gas produced affected by dmg mods?

 

and increase the status chance...

[Tar_Spit_Fire]

In addition: this weapon should have its exclusive mod that makes the enemy that gets shot on body by the nerve gas dart go crazy and turn against on his own ally

[Angius]

Make the cloud moddable with Firestorm and I'm happy. Or increase the status chance, so with Cicero and Tethra mods it'll reach 100%.

[Phobose]

In addition: this weapon should have its exclusive mod that makes the enemy that gets shot on body by the nerve gas dart go crazy and turn against on his own ally

 

Viral/Radiation.

 

Half their Hp kill them faster, if they don't die fast enough they shoot their allies. Simple.

 

I've been using the Torid outside of Survivals and Defense missions and I'm not having a huge problem with it.

 

Sure it fires slow and reloads slow and has heavy arcing. I don't really care though, I like slapping a piece of flesh that generates poisonous fumes on enemies lol.

 

The Reload animation needs to be fixed due to the fact it uses it's previous models animation. That's how the gun is in all honesty. I've already gotten used to the arc and projectile to snipe people with it from a distance

[Phobose]

Make the cloud moddable with Firestorm and I'm happy. Or increase the status chance, so with Cicero and Tethra mods it'll reach 100%.

 

 

I've always thought of firestorm and Torid. this would make a very interesting addition

[Enmity666]

In addition: this weapon should have its exclusive mod that makes the enemy that gets shot on body by the nerve gas dart go crazy and turn against on his own ally

I doubt that it works that way.

(the "nerve gas", i mean.)

Edited April 2, 2014 by Harbinger777

[Tar_Spit_Fire]

Viral/Radiation.

 

Half their Hp kill them faster, if they don't die fast enough they shoot their allies. Simple.

 

I've been using the Torid outside of Survivals and Defense missions and I'm not having a huge problem with it.

 

Sure it fires slow and reloads slow and has heavy arcing. I don't really care though, I like slapping a piece of flesh that generates poisonous fumes on enemies lol.

 

The Reload animation needs to be fixed due to the fact it uses it's previous models animation. That's how the gun is in all honesty. I've already gotten used to the arc and projectile to snipe people with it from a distance

viral/ radiation... but the status chance would make it a problem... and YEA SUREEEE YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM USING THAT WEAPON YOU PRO... but what about the other player? don't deny other's suggestion just to show how good you are...

Edited April 2, 2014 by Tar_Spit_Fire

[Phobose]

viral/ radiation... but the status chance would make it a problem... and YEA SUREEEE YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM USING THAT WEAPON YOU PRO... but what about the other player? don't deny other's suggestion just to show how good you are...

I never stated that was my purpose. The thing i was trying to point out was that I found it awkward in the beginning, I agree that the Flight speed is slow, the Arc is very strange and that It reloads slower than an RPG being reloaded by a quadriplegic. But that's how the Torid has always been. It used to be the opitomy of Defense missions in Damage 1.0, than they screwed it up in damage 2.0 and they tweaked it every now and than.

You need to adjust to the gun's physical stature and animation, than you won't find it as difficult and awkward. if you can't than I'm sorry to say but the gun is not for you.

Edited April 2, 2014 by Phobose

[Dalu__Ka]

It should have toxic crawlers as ammo.

 

PewPew

[Phoenix86]

it's a poisonus grenade launcher... what do darts/bolts have to do with it?

 

and the nature of being a DoT based weapon obviously makes it not suitable for missions where you have to constantly move/run...

 

you have to understand that not all weapons are "allround" and "multiporpouse"

 

that's what Torid is: a niche weapon to use against clusered/CC'ed enemies

 

Here you are suggesting for a weapon that is not Torid, Torid is different from your idea which is a totally new weapon that doesnt fit Torid's role on the battlefield

[Tar_Spit_Fire]

I never stated that was my purpose. The thing i was trying to point out was that I found it awkward in the beginning, I agree that the Flight speed is slow, the Arc is very strange and that It reloads slower than an RPG being reloaded by a quadriplegic. But that's how the Torid has always been. It used to be the opitomy of Defense missions in Damage 1.0, than they screwed it up in damage 2.0 and they tweaked it every now and than.

You need to adjust to the gun's physical stature and animation, than you won't find it as difficult and awkward. if you can't than I'm sorry to say but the gun is not for you.

sorry for my aggro.... but did you use that weapon on top of most of your weapon in your inventory? i guess not since i haven't even seen someone using it, you know why? cuz this weapon is a real pain in the &#!

[Angius]

I must say, Torid is not that bad. If you use it as a weird Kunai/Latron thingy and treat the AOE as a bonus. It can still one-shot everything at high-level missions (on Eris, for example), even without Split Chamber.

[Tar_Spit_Fire]

it's a poisonus grenade launcher... what do darts/bolts have to do with it?

 

and the nature of being a DoT based weapon obviously makes it not suitable for missions where you have to constantly move/run...

 

you have to understand that not all weapons are "allround" and "multiporpouse"

 

that's what Torid is: a niche weapon to use against clusered/CC'ed enemies

 

Here you are suggesting for a weapon that is not Torid, Torid is different from your idea which is a totally new weapon that doesnt fit Torid's role on the battlefield

it doesn't fit in any situation unless you have vauban or you play it in infested defense mission.... this weapon is a horrible weapon to use, torid need some love and fix... stop deny other's opinion...

Edited April 2, 2014 by Tar_Spit_Fire

[Tar_Spit_Fire]

it's a poisonus grenade launcher... what do darts/bolts have to do with it?

 

and the nature of being a DoT based weapon obviously makes it not suitable for missions where you have to constantly move/run...

 

you have to understand that not all weapons are "allround" and "multiporpouse"

 

that's what Torid is: a niche weapon to use against clusered/CC'ed enemies

 

Here you are suggesting for a weapon that is not Torid, Torid is different from your idea which is a totally new weapon that doesnt fit Torid's role on the battlefield

and yea.... almost all hit-scan automatic or semiautomatic weapon is allround/multipurpose.. and yea, since most of the player would rush through all the mission sweeping the enemy with their automatic weapon and leaving you nothing to land your sticky grenade on.... so,yea..

[Phobose]

sorry for my aggro.... but did you use that weapon on top of most of your weapon in your inventory? i guess not since i haven't even seen someone using it, you know why? cuz this weapon is a real pain in the &#!

 

I've actually put down all the fully forma'd weapons I have (Paris Prime, Dread, Karak, Dera and a few others) down because I'm actually having alot of fun with the Torid in almost every mission type, the bulk of the mission types being Corpus Invasion mission (farming for G3).

[RealPandemonium]

viral/ radiation... but the status chance would make it a problem... and YEA SUREEEE YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM USING THAT WEAPON YOU PRO... but what about the other player? don't deny other's suggestion just to show how good you are...

Except this is the same configuration I use and it offers powerful CC and killing power because of the high proc rate.  The weapon is not that hard to use.  I'm bad at shooting games and I can aim it just fine.