(PSN)BethesdaStudios Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I bought the Ember Prime pack and have spent roughly $300-$400 on Warframe in total. At this time I have 2 Platinum in my account. I have been waiting for the next Prime Access so that I could replenish my Plat. I cannot bring myself to buy it knowing that the full, proper $140 pack with 4,300 Plat is available on PC. Megan's response seemed to me like she was saying "Just wait a few months till the next pack" in other words, "Screw you, we aren't changing anything". Well, in 3 months I may not be interested in playing Warframe anymore since I will be paying for a Elder Scrolls Online monthly sub by then. I'm not here to compare games against each other but the fact is that once that next Prime pack rolls around, I may not give a crap. That's why "just wait till next time" doesn't cut it for me. You had a fleeting chance to dig deep down into my wallet once again, DE, but you blew it. I spoke with Sony support about the Rhino Prime packs today and the rep told me in a nutshell that all these "restrictions" that DE is claiming are totally false. Not that it would ever happen but if DE wanted to, they could release a pack tomorrow that unlocks everything in the game and gives you 10,000 Plat for $5. I'm not saying that they actually would (or should) do that, but the fact is that Sony has not restricted DE in any way other than the $150 wallet cap. DE decides what goes into the packs they sell, Sony has nothing to do with that. DE, please stop putting blame on Sony and lying to your customers, it's almost as annoying as getting shafted out of 1,675 Plat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)BaDon6Man Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) You investigating this whole thing just shows that you are just looking at someone to blame. Move on! If you want to catastrophize---DE can stop supporting PS4 altogether. It was your choice to spend that much money and you sir throwing the blame game makes the PS4 look bad as a whole since others will see your post. DE is an indie company, mistakes and bad choices happen. They look into it and make adjustments and grow. DE is the most helpful to the community they are responsible to. Don't tarnish them because of your selfish wants! Why is this PS4 specific feedback? You accuse DE you should open for all communities feedback...unless your just looking for others to jump on your bandwagon. Edited April 4, 2014 by (PS4)BaDon6Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Darilth Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I bought the Ember Prime pack and have spent roughly $300-$400 on Warframe in total. At this time I have 2 Platinum in my account. I have been waiting for the next Prime Access so that I could replenish my Plat. I cannot bring myself to buy it knowing that the full, proper $140 pack with 4,300 Plat is available on PC. Megan's response seemed to me like she was saying "Just wait a few months till the next pack" in other words, "Screw you, we aren't changing anything". Well, in 3 months I may not be interested in playing Warframe anymore since I will be paying for a Elder Scrolls Online monthly sub by then. I'm not here to compare games against each other but the fact is that once that next Prime pack rolls around, I may not give a crap. That's why "just wait till next time" doesn't cut it for me. You had a fleeting chance to dig deep down into my wallet once again, DE, but you blew it. I spoke with Sony support about the Rhino Prime packs today and the rep told me in a nutshell that all these "restrictions" that DE is claiming are totally false. Not that it would ever happen but if DE wanted to, they could release a pack tomorrow that unlocks everything in the game and gives you 10,000 Plat for $5. I'm not saying that they actually would (or should) do that, but the fact is that Sony has not restricted DE in any way other than the $150 wallet cap. DE decides what goes into the packs they sell, Sony has nothing to do with that. DE, please stop putting blame on Sony and lying to your customers, it's almost as annoying as getting shafted out of 1,675 Plat. You win some, you lose some man. That's how business works, its either one side or the other, but never both.... I feel you though, but the ship has sailed, and ain't nothing no one can do anything about, unless they have a Time Machine, but one can dream on that as well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ShadowDancing- Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Because I always call random customer support hotlines for all my international contract law consults. Funniest thing I've read on the internet today. DE could be full of bs. Or maybe not. Online store owners are renowned for their reasonable, fair, consistent, inexpensive and nondiscriminatory policies. Certainly DE failed basic PR on this. But accusing them of lying just because you've never run an international business is absurd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Dtexas44 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Show me proof of this so called conversation you had with Sony support and I will believe you. Otherwise I am not. Also, DE did rhino prime packs they way they did because people complained about the fact that the Ember prime pack was only one pack. This is the first time DE has done anything like this and you are expecting them to get it right on the first try? To make everyone happy? Unfortunately it doesn't work that way and its damn near impossible to make everyone happy. DE already said that they are working on ways to improve it and hope to do better next time and thats all there is to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)BethesdaStudios Posted April 4, 2014 Author Share Posted April 4, 2014 I understand they will not be changing the packs that are already available, but what is so hard about adding another pack for $140? Try as you might, there's no logic and no valid justification behind the decision not to offer a full package equivalent to the PC Stomp package. They tried to claim Sony wouldn't allow them to release a proper package, which is a LIE. When it comes to investing $140 on virtual goods, and I have a valid reason to complain, a reply from the retailer of "Oops, our bad" doesn't really cut it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Dtexas44 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I understand they will not be changing the packs that are already available, but what is so hard about adding another pack for $140? Try as you might, there's no logic and no valid justification behind the decision not to offer a full package equivalent to the PC Stomp package. They tried to claim Sony wouldn't allow them to release a proper package, which is a LIE. When it comes to investing $140 on virtual goods, and I have a valid reason to complain, a reply from the retailer of "Oops, our bad" doesn't really cut it for me. Adding another pack for 140$ will then screw over PC players because then PS4 players can get both the level 2 and level 3 packages for rhino prime. Which isn't fair to PC players. I understand that the way it is now is unfair to PS4 (by just a little bit, ps4 still gets a ton of plat), but the way its done atm was the best option for DE. Also, where in the hell is your proof that DE lied, hm? How do you know that Sony isn't lying about DE lying? Answer: You don't. This is the first time DE has done anything like this, there are going to be mistakes along the way, just because they make a mistake doesn't you should go and say: "F you guys, im not playing anymore". That would be like if you made a mistake on a test and the teacher said "Sorry, you get a zero because of this one mistake". It really isn't that bad honestly, so you missed a bit of plat, big deal. Its still a ton of plat you are getting. DE will have better packages for next prime access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ariaandkia Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) Platinum 75% one-day discount Platinum 75% two-day discount And it would be unfair for PC players if ps4 players got a little bit of extra discounted platinum? Considering last time we checked, PS4 can't get those? Really? Not to mention that this isn't the first time DE has screwed up something. They do it every single PS4 patch. This is more like the teacher going: Ok, I you bombed everything but your first answer, so you are getting an F. === I gave DE a chance. I bought prime access even though I said I wouldn't buy platinum until we saw those on the ps4 side. Until things became fair. I gave DE the benefit of the doubt. They have utterly disappointed me. Not just in fairness but in all the bugs that still aren't fixed. Also, sorry if I sound like a complete pessimistic monster with no hope for the future and nothing but bleakness and bitterness. ==== I would love to see an actual proof of the conversation with a sony support person. Not that I'm saying that it wouldn't be possible for DE to do whatever they wanted in terms of making DLC/addons-that is more than likely possible. However, I would love to see proof of this. Edited April 4, 2014 by (PS4)ariaandkia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)japaneselonewolf Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 There is so much wrong with claiming DE has some nefarious scheme up their collective sleeves. You want to discuss bugs, head on over to Battlefield 4 and their headaches. Second, speaking as a software engineer and DBA, for the number of bugs that do exist, this is a pretty good game in terms of overall stability. You want to rant, fine. But no one is forcing you to play, or purchase anything. If you don't like how things are being handled on the PS4 side, then go to the PC side where you believe everything is one happy paradise, where plat rains from the sky each and every day. Situation solved, and I am surprised you haven't thought of this. Or, I will mention to you the same thing I tell a co-worker who picks on and whines about every little thing in every game or gaming system - design and compile your own game, create your own console, and you won't have any worries or anyone to blame. And last, if you are expecting life to be fair, stop. It isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)BethesdaStudios Posted April 4, 2014 Author Share Posted April 4, 2014 Don't even get me started on the performance issues with Warframe. I was already on the verge of quitting the game because of the horrid framerate drops, especially in void missions. This is absolutely NOT a "pretty good game in terms of overall stability" in fact the massive amount of stability issues are a far greater problem than any plat shortage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulzscha Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 This was already explained by DE in previous threads: "We're not blaming Sony for anything, we have to work with what we're given and through continuous discussion this package was made. The main issue was the inability to upgrade between packs on the PSN store. By mirroring what the PC Prime Access advertised on the PS4 without the ability to upgrade would be unfair. We thought by splitting up the Stomp pack essentially by offering Roar pack and Accessories this would offer PS4 players better options. This was not received with 100% love and we understand that. We've discussed new options each time a Prime Access program goes live and we will continue to do so." source: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/204090-ps4-prime-platinum-package-shortage/ also: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/201479-ps4-prime-access-insight/ I believe we're done here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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