If Badlands Is Pvp, That Worries Me.

[Kaiser_Suoh]

I love this game too much because not have "Guild wars". That will change my opinion about this awesome game.

Some problems will be very noticeable between warframes (Rino vs Nekros for example)

PvP is not very that balanced in this game.

 

The big populated guilds/clans will want more territory and the "little guilds extinction" will begin. Left them not many option except join in a "actually big clan" (little clan for fun will not have many options to survive)
Also the "clan vs clan" will be unfair if one of them is a little clan.
 

Is all for now.

[BrotherIcarus]

So I wonder if anyone actually knows the difference between the Badlands and the Solar rails?

Edited April 4, 2014 by BrotherIcarus

[Kato-san]

You can allie with other small clans making one big clan.

[RoboDoge]

Nope. No PvP in there.

[Utarious]

It isn't direct PvP and I am pretty sure it will be same sized clans go against each other.

The real reason to worry is since when a node is taken over there is a tax, how high are clans going to jack up the taxes. (If they can)

[Pansoy]

People still think badlands is pvp?

[Xelorx]

For the 9001st time, it's not going to be PvP. It's pitting players against the other player's GUARDIANS.

Try researching for once. Or how about waiting for the live stream at 2PM EST to see for yourself.

[SolidSp33d]

Badlands isn't direct PvP.

 

DE isn't really going to do much with actual PvP until much later. Too much to do.

Edited April 4, 2014 by SolidSp33d

[RoboDoge]

Proxy wars =/= Badlands.

 

 

And Proxy wars wont be PvP either, they will be same as Invasion mission ( if i understand DE correctly on this issue ).

[Seanjuju]

Small clans will use alliance system.

[Feallike]

I love this game too much because not have "Guild wars". That will change my opinion about this awesome game.

Some problems will be very noticeable between warframes (Rino vs Nekros for example)

PvP is not very that balanced in this game.

 

The big populated guilds/clans will want more territory and the "little guilds extinction" will begin. Left them not many option except join in a "actually big clan" (little clan for fun will not have many options to survive)

Also the "clan vs clan" will be unfair if one of them is a little clan.

 

Is all for now.

 

Omg seriously you made a topic on this!?!?!?!

 

 

Badlands will not be TVT (TennovsTenno) but it will be PVP! It will work like invasions do but with clans, you will probably be fighting corrupted!  If you want to hear my full post on it go to the badlands forum i was posting on, and go back a page or two. KAPEESH

 

 

P.s if your trolling i am not amused.

Edited April 4, 2014 by Feallike

[Lunamaniac]

When pvp actually does do something I trust DE to make it group pvp so that it can further encourage teamplay.

[Aggh]

Oh sweet jeebus how on earth is there so much misinformation about this?  There's been a leaked Design council post and talk on the @(*()$ live streams for god's sake!

[Feallike]

Oh sweet jeebus how on earth is there so much misinformation about this?  There's been a leaked Design council post and talk on the @(*()$ live streams for god's sake!

 

Ikr, i think hes trolling because i posted on another forum everything Bad lands will do, and he did post there he just didn't look a page back, so he missed it. I did correct him but here he is making a Forum on stuff i answered... I think hes trolling. -.-

[Kaiser_Suoh]

Omg seriously you made a topic on this!?!?!?!

 

 

Badlands will not be TVT (TennovsTenno) but it will be PVP! It will work like invasions do but with clans, you will probably be fighting corrupted!  If you want to hear my full post on it go to the badlands forum i was posting on, and go back a page or two. KAPEESH

 

 

P.s if your trolling i am not amused.

That is why i say "IF"

[LascarCapable]

And what if it wasn't badlands ?

[Aggh]

Straight from the design council post:

 

"Badlands"

Clans and Alliances own parts of the Solar System. They construct a Solar Rail then deploy to an open (or contested) area allowing everyone to play... but they set taxes on missions run there. Monopolies rise and fall. Territorial battles break out for honor... and profit.

• New locations are discovered in the Solar Map, with rarer resources, harder bosses, better loot... but they are unreachable .
• A Clan (or Alliance) can collaborate on building Tower to connect it to the Solar Rail network. When it is build and deployed all Tenno can now run missions there. In essence, they've built a solar toll-highway.
• All missions run there have taxes applied to them - resources and credits - this rate is set by the Clan who build the Tower.
• Competing clans can build their own tower (maybe in secret) to challenge the area. When this happens, the area is locked into Tower Sabotage mode (against Orokin defenders, not PvP) - the Clans (and all players they convince to help) chose a side and try to destroy the opposing Tower (like a player-driven Invasion).
• If a clan has built up Favor with a faction they can call them in - making their Tower more difficult to destroy as Grineer Elites are brought in to help.
• Political intrigue grows, towers are built in secret, counter-attacks sprung, and rousing pleas for support play out over days of bloody conflict.

Edited April 4, 2014 by Aggh

[RoboDoge]

And what if it wasn't badlands ?

Maybe it is Goodlands. Or even SoSolands.

[Sni7ch]

None of the endgame concepts are PvP.  

[Feallike]

"Badlands"

Clans and Alliances own parts of the Solar System. They construct a Solar Rail then deploy to an open (or contested) area allowing everyone to play... but they set taxes on missions run there. Monopolies rise and fall. Territorial battles break out for honor... and profit.

• New locations are discovered in the Solar Map, with rarer resources, harder bosses, better loot... but they are unreachable .
• A Clan (or Alliance) can collaborate on building Tower to connect it to the Solar Rail network. When it is build and deployed all Tenno can now run missions there. In essence, they've built a solar toll-highway.
• All missions run there have taxes applied to them - resources and credits - this rate is set by the Clan who build the Tower.
• Competing clans can build their own tower (maybe in secret) to challenge the area. When this happens, the area is locked into Tower Sabotage mode (against Orokin defenders, not PvP) - the Clans (and all players they convince to help) chose a side and try to destroy the opposing Tower (like a player-driven Invasion).
• If a clan has built up Favor with a faction they can call them in - making their Tower more difficult to destroy as Grineer Elites are brought in to help.
• Political intrigue grows, towers are built in secret, counter-attacks sprung, and rousing pleas for support play out over days of bloody conflict.

 

 

^ Thankyou, just thankyou, i don't know why people don't get this. -.- DE PLEASE SAY BADLANDS IS NOT PVP!\

 

Says its Tenno Invasions, you are fighting corrupted and other factions trying to defend your Tower from other Tenno so they don't take your land. THATS ALL YOU NEED TO SAY! :(

Edited April 4, 2014 by Feallike

[Wiegraf]

It's indirect PvP : basically, you never fight another player but you fight against the ressources the other players have put into play.

 

Think like a variant of a proxy war where you, yourself, fight back against the proxies of your opponents and your opponent does the same to your own proxies.

 

The end result is decided by the performance of both clans' tallies.

[Agent_of_Change]

There isn't any official PvP planned at this time especially not regarding the Badlands or solar rails, you can stop worrying. De has said they aren't goign to be looking at anything serious in terms of PvP until the PvE side is pretty much complete because this is a PvE game and that is their focus.

 

(and no Conclave isn't anything more than a half-assed bone to shut the Pvp'rs up)

[Nerevar22g]

if it turns out to be pvp, I will never touch them