The Only Good Stat Chance Mod Locked As Event Only? Twice!?

[The_Sharp_Demonologist]

I dont mind Event Weapons, not at all as they are great rewards for people who actually played an even and put effort into it to EARN the Gun.

 

I can live without the Gorgon Wraith or the Snipertron vandal but mods? why are you locking Mods to be just event rewards? especially talking about STATUS CHANCE! something that is desperately needed?

 

You know im that kind of guy who cant use a weapon unless it has something especial, something to make it truly stand out. Thats why i dont use the Soma, Braton, Karak or any of the "normal" gun. I go more inclined to crazy guns like the Ignis, Torid, Tysis, Tetra or the Kittag. All of them have their own special factor but one of my fav guns still is the Grataka.

 

It currently has one of the highest Status chance in the game but if i want to go for a full stat chance build (wich is all the Grataka is going for) i cant cause the stupid rifle attitute only gives like what 15% at max Rank? or something like that? and dont even make me start whit Hammer shot, its drop is so rare that im more likely to get stalker to spawn tan that thing.

 

But hey at least Hammer SHot gives a decent amount of Status and some good crit damage. Now if you want to go for a Status chance build in a gun like, say, the Tysis, trying to exploid its 50% chance or the Magnus (25% status chance i think) well you screw because the only sidearm mod whit status aviable from drops its Stunnin speed that gives like @(*()$ 12% or 15 at max Rank, i think even less, same whit the Melee they dont really have much option when trying to use more status procs.

 

But then the Toxic/Status and Electric/Status come in and say "Screw you guys you cant experiment whit status, go and play the Soma".

 

This is not just for the Status based weapons but the normal weapons as well, because we alll have especial elemental combos for each faction and without this new status mods you can increase the damage nor the status pro chance that can further increase its damage against an spesific faction. Did i mention those mods give around 15% stat chance? AT RANK 1 and can go up as far as 40% as i remember, together moth new mods can increase your status chance up by 80%!

 

My problem whit this is that mods are the only way we can change our weapons, making them unique from others, maybe You build your Grinlock whit Crit chance so it can headshot for S#&$ TON of damage but maybe i want to mix Some cold and Radiation to slow and confuse them. Maybe some other guy want to build pure fire mods like Wildfire or other fire mod coupled whit some status mods to blast through the infested. But we cant do that cause the Status mods we have ARE FREAKING CRAP!

 

My suggestion

My grip is not really against the fact that those status mods are explusive to event, and making them aviadable (maybe possibly through nighmare mode) wont solve the problem. The main issue here is that the normal Status Chance mods are terible and a waste of Mod space.

 

The solution would be increasing the Status chance those mods grant at max Rank, why waste a S#&$ ton of Fusion Cores in a Stat mod that will prob give me like 15% chance at max Rank when i can hit the market and try my luck whit those rare status mods.

 

If you increase the Status chance granted by the normal mods it will give more variety to player builds and it will indirectly buff status chance weapons (Torid, Acrid, Tysis, Grataka, Jat Kittag, Prova), not to mention if the normal status chance mods are much better the other especial mods wont be the "god like mods" but rather a welcome addition o have even more variety in your build.

 

SO go and play around whit the Status mods. Buff the normal ones (Rifle attitude, Mele prowess) to maybe 30% or 35% at max Rank and the rare ones (Stunning speed, hammer shot) like its even counterparts give them like 40% at max Rank.

 

NOTE: Sorry if i sounded a bit ranty at the beguining, status chance is my fav aspect of the guns and being ignored just like that made me quite mad. Sorry about that but had to let it out

 

 

[alchemistjkt]

iirc, they are not "exclusive", they simply came out with their respective events and have yet to come out... much like many other event guns/mods.

 

side note:

chill your roll yo.

[Seanjuju]

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[LazyKnight]

They will likely be added to the Nightmare loot table sooner or later.

[(PSN)Brako_El_Mostro]

I heard that the ammo mutation mods were "exclusive" to a past event but they're out on alert and survival i guess that getting them from events gives you the benefit of being one of the first ones to have them.

[The_Sharp_Demonologist]

I heard that the ammo mutation mods were "exclusive" to a past event but they're out on alert and survival i guess that getting them from events gives you the benefit of being one of the first ones to have them.

That doesnt solve the problem that the normal Status chance mods suck horribly

[Axterix13]

That doesnt solve the problem that the normal Status chance mods suck horribly

There's a ton of things like that in the game.  Holdovers from when they're experimenting, not sure how things will turn out.  They do need to spend some time going through those things and updating them.  Status chance mobs, the reload ones, the varying bonuses on certain elemental mods (10 vs 15), and so on.  Not to mention things like adjusting loot tables, fixing up the starting weapons, and so on.

 

I'd really like to see them take a break for a week or two from making new things to spend some time cleaning up lingering issues (and any artists without things to do can make more Dojo stuff... I want Corpus, Tenno, and Infested statues already!)

[The_Sharp_Demonologist]

There's a ton of things like that in the game.  Holdovers from when they're experimenting, not sure how things will turn out.  They do need to spend some time going through those things and updating them.  Status chance mobs, the reload ones, the varying bonuses on certain elemental mods (10 vs 15), and so on.  Not to mention things like adjusting loot tables, fixing up the starting weapons, and so on.

 

I'd really like to see them take a break for a week or two from making new things to spend some time cleaning up lingering issues (and any artists without things to do can make more Dojo stuff... I want Corpus, Tenno, and Infested statues already!)

A statue of me in the dojo would be pretty good. But yeah i always though they need to work on the mods, balance them out better and give us more customization options

[Katotsu]

They need to go back and balance things, badly.  Ever look at the Physical damage mods?  Only ones that even match elemental in % boost is melee, and then they don't even pull from the full damage pool.  There are some weapons and Warframes that badly need to be re-finished too.

[The_Sharp_Demonologist]

They need to go back and balance things, badly.  Ever look at the Physical damage mods?  Only ones that even match elemental in % boost is melee, and then they don't even pull from the full damage pool.  There are some weapons and Warframes that badly need to be re-finished too.

Like Frost, poor guy has it pretty harsh

[Vargras]

The event mods haven't even been hard to get.

 

Maybe you should actually do the events so you'll have them next time?

[Ayraclus]

The event mods haven't even been hard to get.

 

Maybe you should actually do the events so you'll have them next time?

 

Doing or not the event is irrelevant.

A) Players will join the game AFTER said events

B) You may want to have spare copies since you can't down-rank mods.

[Vargras]

Doing or not the event is irrelevant.

A) Players will join the game AFTER said events

B) You may want to have spare copies since you can't down-rank mods.

A) Exclusive items means there will always be someone who can't have them. Don't know if the damage/status mods will ever be added to the nightmare pool.

B) Since when would you not want to max rank a damage/status mod?

[Ayraclus]

Exclusive items should stay exclusive so long as there is an alternative to them for regular players.

The current status mods are NOT an alternative, those are not weaker, those are obsolete.

 

And you may want to keep X mod 1 rank below to get an even cost number. That could save you a forma in some cases.

[Arunafeltz]

B) Since when would you not want to max rank a damage/status mod?

Many people who actively rank weapons keep extra copies of mods ranked with even numbers.

[Axterix13]

A) Exclusive items means there will always be someone who can't have them. Don't know if the damage/status mods will ever be added to the nightmare pool.

B) Since when would you not want to max rank a damage/status mod?

A) That's fine if it is pretty much cosmetic.  Not so fine when it offers functionality you can only get that way.  Which is pretty much the case with these things now.

B) When you don't have enough points for the max rank one.  I know I'd like to have rank 4, 5, and 6 ones to go with my 7 for when I'm leveling weapons.

[ObviousLee]

*snip*

each event was a week long. and easy to do. if you weren't here, they should be released in the future tied into some new game mode (i hope so), advice: dont miss events. ever.

 

also, at max it's 60% status. so thats a combined 120% status chance increase.

Edited April 5, 2014 by ObviousLee

[Mesyra]

they could fix the current crappy status chance mods by taking out the decimal point, and making the numbers go 10/20/30/40 or even 10/25/50/85%

[Xarteros]

I hate exclusive stuff. Cosmetics are fine by me, or sliiiiight benefit weapons (the Wraith/Vandal series) are sort of ok (but i still prefer if they aren't 100% exclusive).

What this is doing is punishing newcoming players or players like me, who had to take a break for a while (or it'd die for me completely, due to repetitiveness) because they can never do the cool things other people are doing. The Cicero mods are just as awesome as the Tethra ones (slightly more so, because poison is cooler than lightning) because of their massive potential of status buffing, and massively cheap cost-strength ratio. For the record, I've got the Tethra mods, but not the Cicero mods, and i'm not just *@##$ing because I don't have the Cicero ones, it's the principle of the thing itself.
Then there's the Primed Chamber mod i hear about, which gives you 100% bonus damage on the first bullet of the clip at max rank. Couple that with one-bullet clip weapons like Vectis, or potential future corrupted mods that give a penalty to clip size, and you get a great way to massively amp up damage on low-clip weapons. Hell, if you get enough reload speed, you can just shoot and reload after each shot, to get 100% bonus damage. It's that sort of powerful mod that shouldn't be exclusive

It's cool with me if I come back and everyone's got these cool unique weapon/warframe skins that I missed out on, but if I come back and now i've missed the only mods that make status builds viable, it's just taking fun out. It's like saying you can't get crit chance mods unless you were part of the closed beta, it'd be completely stupid and I'd hate it, even though I'd have the mods since I was here from basically the beginning of the game. I've convinced quite a few friends to start playing warframe, and several of them have paid money towards it (prime access or platinum purchases), so why should their gaming experience be lessened by the inability to play the same way as me, to have access to every game mechanic i have access to? It'll only get worse in the future unless they re-release exclusive stuff.

Now, I'm completely all for having to farm like a madman to get exclusive stuff. I'm completely fine if they release the Vandal/Wraith weapons like the void weapons, with multiple parts required as well as the blueprint, that all has to be found/farmed individually. All the special mods could easily be put into the game as ultra-rare rewards for high-risk missions, like Nightmare missions.

Take it a step further, make an advanced Orokin Derelict key system with much harder missions, and raid "Time capsules" for these artifacts that were sealed away on transport before the ships went derelict. Make it much harder than the derelict missions, harder to craft/find the keys, and maybe still require Dragon keys to access the "Time capsules" or whatever. They can just add more retired gear to those missions, diversified by mission type or possibly a Tier system of their own (T1-3 derelicts?), including stuff like Snipetron. Hell, they could always use two concepts and have harder Orokin Derelicts with Nightmare debuffs, and THAT'S where you have to farm the rare exclusive stuff.

They could also make the Vandal/Wraith weapons to be weapon skins; either skins that convey the Vandal/Wraith bonus stats the way regular weapon skins do, or make the Vandal/Wraith version become a better version of the base (with no unique skin) that can be farmed from the new missions, but the Vandal/Wraith skin itself become purely cosmetic and limited to the original owners who participated in the events.

I don't actually know if any of the Vandal/Wraith weapons are game-changers, since I haven't really used the ones I have much past getting them to level 30, but if they aren't any major advantage, it's not as bad as limiting stuff like the Cicero/Tethra mods

[ObviousLee]

*snip*

next time, do the events then. regardless of reason, it was a choice made to log in, or not.

 

dont miss events, and you wont miss rewards.

 

 

i do hope they release the mods for those who hadn't had a chance to join or participate.

[Racercowboy]

next time, do the events then. regardless of reason, it was a choice made to log in, or not.

 

dont miss events, and you wont miss rewards.

 

 

i do hope they release the mods for those who hadn't had a chance to join or participate.

 

Sadly, real life can get in the way of doing events and what not. See all those posts of "oh no, that catalyst alert was up while I was at work/school/sleep etc.!" all over the forums or hearing the same from friends? What if someone needed to take a break to deal with something serious happening in their life? You can't expect them to choose warframe over that.

 

Even if the OP was a bit rage-induced, I do agree that the current status mods need to be buffed big time. I think it's obvious to everyone right now that they are completely useless, adding a whopping 7.5% status chance to Tysis when maxed. Even if these status mods were boosted to 120% status chance at max level, the event mods would still be better for the simple fact that they add elemental damage and cost less points at max level.

 

With that said, keep in mind that this is coming from someone with both sets of elementaI/status mods. I did not buy them off of someone else either. It does not seem fair to me that I have these powerful mods and people who missed or are new to the game have no way of obtaining them right now. Exclusive power only discourages people who do not have it.

[The_Sharp_Demonologist]

Sadly, real life can get in the way of doing events and what not. See all those posts of "oh no, that catalyst alert was up while I was at work/school/sleep etc.!" all over the forums or hearing the same from friends? What if someone needed to take a break to deal with something serious happening in their life? You can't expect them to choose warframe over that.

 

Even if the OP was a bit rage-induced, I do agree that the current status mods need to be buffed big time. I think it's obvious to everyone right now that they are completely useless, adding a whopping 7.5% status chance to Tysis when maxed. Even if these status mods were boosted to 120% status chance at max level, the event mods would still be better for the simple fact that they add elemental damage and cost less points at max level.

 

With that said, keep in mind that this is coming from someone with both sets of elementaI/status mods. I did not buy them off of someone else either. It does not seem fair to me that I have these powerful mods and people who missed or are new to the game have no way of obtaining them right now. Exclusive power only discourages people who do not have it.

THANK you finally someone whit some reason, thanks for lighting things up

[The_Sharp_Demonologist]

next time, do the events then. regardless of reason, it was a choice made to log in, or not.

 

dont miss events, and you wont miss rewards.

 

 

i do hope they release the mods for those who hadn't had a chance to join or participate.

Well excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me for DARING to have a life beside this video game. Maybe i should leave my girfriend and quit my job so i can stay all day at my house, no wait my moms house cause i cant get enough money here, whit my thump up my &#! and i can play all day long for the rest of my life. IS THAT FUN ENOUGH FOR YOU!

I bet you even have Vauban since you where up all night waiting for the alerts to go on. YOUR SUCH A GREAT EXAMPLE OF A GAMER! AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

[GeneralArmchair]

next time, do the events then. regardless of reason, it was a choice made to log in, or not.

 

dont miss events, and you wont miss rewards.

 

 

i do hope they release the mods for those who hadn't had a chance to join or participate.

You sure are dense.   You do realize that people join the game AFTER events have taken place right?

[ObviousLee]

pay attention to what i said. it is your responsibility to participate in events to earn the rewards, and there are always trade options available. whether you decide to do an event or not, for whatever reason, is up to you. each event is a week long. that's 7 days, or 168 hours. IF you wanted the rewards, and were present in this game during the event, then guess what. you had a whole week to do so. wasn't around internet connection? understandable. call a friend, and have them do it.

 

now, if you weren't playing this game at the time, i feel for you. i personally, as i mentioned before, hope that they release all event mods into the pool for everyone to have. i also concur that status mods in general are trash, and that the event mods are a delicious improvement, which should be available to the player base.

 

if you had no idea about the event, or it's rewards, then i honestly feel for you. if you did know, and were playing, then that is literally all on you. if you can make time for your lady, or any other obligation you may have, then you can either make time to finish an event that only took 20-30 minutes on each to complete and reap the rewards, you you don't, and miss out.

 

fyi: I'm a two-time Combat veteran, current college student, married, have rent, own my own vehicle, bills, seven dogs, a cat, a freaking rabbit, and one hell pot of rage issues. my point? we all have duties and responsibilities that take precedent in our lives: i got that, i respect that. however, things fall into need, and want. games are wants, i think we can all agree on that. however, i have what i have in this game, because of choices i made, and sacrifices on personal life, gaming time, work, you know. life.

Edited April 10, 2014 by ObviousLee