Flyghter Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Hi guys how you see from the title i think that Ecalibur need a bit of love .... For the start Super Jump dont help him very much and i think that its one of worst ablity from the game and maybe instand of this skill it will be better to add a buff who will increse his BASIC ATTACK DMG and to be imune to stuns and knock down (after all he was made to be a swordmaster-warframe soo let him play whit his sword ). Radiant Javelin need just to punch through enemies and objects. PS.Sry for the english .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaniteCircuit Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Hi guys how you see from the title i think that Ecalibur need a bit of love .... For the start Super Jump dont help him very much and i think that its one of worst ablity from the game and maybe instand of this skill it will be better to add a buff who will increse his BASIC ATTACK DMG and to be imune to stuns and knock down (after all he was made to be a swordmaster-warframe soo let him play whit his sword ). Radiant Javelin need just to punch through enemies and objects. PS.Sry for the english .... Super Jump is fine, you just need to figure out creative ways to use it. A bit of knockdown on jumping and landing would be a welcome change, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubmix Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 *facepalm* He is fine as he is... You just need to know how to use it... Althrough I agree on that Radial Javelin needs punch through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraalOhOtonami Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 We've been over this thousands of time before, he doesn't need to change much, Super Jump is situational but useful, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptimumBow0 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Someone said it was the most badarse thing in the world to shoot an Ogris missile at a crowd of enemies at the apex of super jump. I need to go try that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngerManagement Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Slash dash pretty bad damage wise, but it gets you out of a tight situation. Radial blind is his best ability. I use it for cross map stuns then wait for my teammates to obliterate them. Super jump (rocket jump) then fire an ogris shell into oncoming enemies. Radial javelin is not the best skill, considering your susceptible to damage during the attack... but its kinda useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implodingbanana Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Hi guys how you see from the title i think that Ecalibur need a bit of love .... For the start Super Jump dont help him very much and i think that its one of worst ablity from the game and maybe instand of this skill it will be better to add a buff who will increse his BASIC ATTACK DMG and to be imune to stuns and knock down (after all he was made to be a swordmaster-warframe soo let him play whit his sword ). Radiant Javelin need just to punch through enemies and objects. PS.Sry for the english .... i disagree with the super jump but i think radial javelin should be either changed or tweaked to make it better from what i see the newer frames are better with there abilities then excalibur but this makes sense since he is the first, BUT you would think the tenno would want to improve their warframes...... so i to make this simple i basically think radial javalin should be tweaked/switched to match Excalibur master swordsmen theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraalOhOtonami Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Excal was the first Warframe, they then made others. He's the everyman, the middleground. He should neither be specialised in any way, nor should he outclass any other frames. He is simply the underdog, but don't underestimate the skilled user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marthrym Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Excal was the first Warframe, they then made others. He's the everyman, the middleground. He should neither be specialised in any way, nor should he outclass any other frames. He is simply the underdog, but don't underestimate the skilled user. I don't think that's a valid excuse to be honest... The "Jack of all trades" one. It's getting old. He IS supposed to be the 'swordsman'. I mean just the name says it all.^^ I'm not saying "make him a beast when his wields a sword, but a poor shot with a gun" though. Super Jump is fun to use. But it's a bit too situational. I like the "knockdown on landing" idea though.^^ Radial Javelin could use a rework, or at least a punch through indeed. Radial Blind is both his best ability and his only crutch for high level content, unfortunately. (I know who cares about high level content^^) And I only use Slash Dash for mobility...^^' Still, he can be deadly. HE CAN. He just needs some TLC.^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraalOhOtonami Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I don't think that's a valid excuse to be honest... The "Jack of all trades" one. It's getting old. He IS supposed to be the 'swordsman'. I mean just the name says it all.^^ I'm not saying "make him a beast when his wields a sword, but a poor shot with a gun" though. Super Jump is fun to use. But it's a bit too situational. I like the "knockdown on landing" idea though.^^ Radial Javelin could use a rework, or at least a punch through indeed. Radial Blind is both his best ability and his only crutch for high level content, unfortunately. (I know who cares about high level content^^) And I only use Slash Dash for mobility...^^' Still, he can be deadly. HE CAN. He just needs some TLC.^^ Sorry about the tone, I've been reading this thread too long >.> https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/204440-warframe-symboldoes-excalibur-look-as-the-games-protagonist-should-something-change/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marthrym Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Sorry about the tone, I've been reading this thread too long >.> https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/204440-warframe-symboldoes-excalibur-look-as-the-games-protagonist-should-something-change/ Oh I get it now... I didn't know about that thread. Making Excalibur "bulkier"... lol Don't worry, I don't think your "tone" was aggressive or anything.^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizen Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 (edited) Exacalibur is probably the most balanced frame there is. I use all his abilities. I only wish Superjump had more forward momentum. Edited April 5, 2014 by Oizen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyeless Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 While I would like to see his abilities get buffed or tweaked in a positive manner to maintain their utility (Well, his first 3 abilities anyway) I can honestly say the only skill that's useless on him for late-game is Radial Javelin. Probably one of the worst ults in the game. Long casting animation Highly vulnerable during casting animation Abysmal damage against lvl35+ enemies. I'd either like to see it get an armor ignoring + punch through + damage buff, or I'd like to see it get some added utility so his ult can scale with the utility his other abilities offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methanoid Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 *facepalm* He is fine as he is... You just need to know how to use it... Althrough I agree on that Radial Javelin needs punch through. ^ Quoted for truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shut Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Javelin needs some utility. Everything else is fine. Sincerely, - an Excalibur player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodromata Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Excalibur is just fine. Super Jump does combo well with the Ogris. ^As stated above it is similar to a rocket jump from Team Fortress. While I'm not a fan of rap music, there is a hilarious video on YouTube with TF2 gameplay and a rework of the lyrics of the song Soulja Boy. It should give you an idea of how Super Jump and Ogris can be used together, with the added bonus of a few laughs. Blind is just amazing. As everyone is saying, Warframe rewards creativity. The straightforward route will yield fewer results. This is a Ninja game. Ninja don't fight like Commandos. They are creative and resourceful. They won't kill you with a bomb, they will make you kill YOURSELF with a bomb. ^.^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vengola Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 DO NOT TOUCH my super jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangelzz Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 I have beaten T3 void defense with Excalibur and have been using him since day one of closed beta and unlocked everything with him enough said but for craps and giggles sake. Slash dash great damage dealer on lower levels great mobility power on higher levels Radial blind is fine as well gives a 5 second stun followed by a blind status affect that makes them run around ilke retards and gives you 4x melee damage buff agaisnt all enemies affected. Super jump in fine as well great mobility power and if used with heavy impact mod gives you a area knock down affect that knocks down every non boss unit in the game and is cheap can be used in conjunction with slam attacks for greater damage or elemental procs. Radial Javelin destroys everything around you enough said simply use radial blind before hand to eliminate the possibility of dying when you cast it. Excalibur is one of the warframes that is only as useful as the person wielding him if you aren't creative and resourceful you will never be able to master him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangelzz Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 I don't think that's a valid excuse to be honest... The "Jack of all trades" one. It's getting old. He IS supposed to be the 'swordsman'. I mean just the name says it all.^^ I'm not saying "make him a beast when his wields a sword, but a poor shot with a gun" though. Super Jump is fun to use. But it's a bit too situational. I like the "knockdown on landing" idea though.^^ Radial Javelin could use a rework, or at least a punch through indeed. Radial Blind is both his best ability and his only crutch for high level content, unfortunately. (I know who cares about high level content^^) And I only use Slash Dash for mobility...^^' Still, he can be deadly. HE CAN. He just needs some TLC.^^ A simple heavy impact mod gives him a area shock wave that knocks everything down when he lands with super jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARLOCKE Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Excal was the first Warframe, they then made others. He's the everyman, the middleground. He should neither be specialised in any way, nor should he outclass any other frames. He is simply the underdog, but don't underestimate the skilled user. By skilled user you mean someone who spams Radial Blind? Because thats the extent of his worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shut Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 (edited) DO NOT TOUCH my super jump. +1. If you want to use Super Jump outside the niche it was designed for, then ask for Heavy Impact to be reworked. Super Jump is one of my favourite abilities in the game, and I am going to be incredibly angry if anything changes the pure-utility aspect that it has had from the start. Super Jump does its job perfectly. Heavy Impact does not. Edited April 9, 2014 by SortaRandom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TargetDummy Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Ex could have skill-shield, as he HAD in early beta trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Darilth Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Hi guys how you see from the title i think that Ecalibur need a bit of love .... For the start Super Jump dont help him very much and i think that its one of worst ablity from the game and maybe instand of this skill it will be better to add a buff who will increse his BASIC ATTACK DMG and to be imune to stuns and knock down (after all he was made to be a swordmaster-warframe soo let him play whit his sword ). Radiant Javelin need just to punch through enemies and objects. PS.Sry for the english .... I'm sure once U13 comes out, you might like him more, because frankly Excalibur reminds me of Striding Cloud from Storm Riders/Storm Warriors :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaumatos Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 +1. If you want to use Super Jump outside the niche it was designed for, then ask for Heavy Impact to be reworked. Super Jump is one of my favourite abilities in the game, and I am going to be incredibly angry if anything changes the pure-utility aspect that it has had from the start. Super Jump does its job perfectly. Heavy Impact does not. Make Super Jump a general skill. Give Excalibur something more useful. People who want to play a better xcal win, people who want to play Jumpframe win, people who don't want to change anything win. EVERYONE WINS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagisawa Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 By skilled user you mean someone who spams Radial Blind? Because thats the extent of his worth. Pretty much. No one ever talks about his other abilities. It's all Radial Blind is AWESOME! It's the "BEST POWER EVER!1!" whenever they talk about Excalibur. Doesn't that tell you people anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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