Will Pvp Break Warframe?

[degrida]

I'm just going to ask this question because some players want something more akin to pvp like a dojo invasion for more challenge. I am curious as to whether or not this will make warframe's fanbase even messier.

[BrotherIcarus]

As long as there is nothing in the game locked behind PvP no it will not (Maybe I would be fine with a  PvP badge)

[Blatantfool]

 Warframe really, really isn't the right game for a real PvP mode.

 

 Minigames like Dueling or even a short and not-so-serious CTF mode can be made to work just fine but a real, serious PvP will always turn up as a joke.

 

 Warframe is just not the kind of game where a PvP mode would ever be stable or balanced enough without the things people find important in PvE being jeopardized.

[Seanjuju]

If nothing awesome is locked in the badlands, I'll be so sad.

[ScorchedIce]

PvP Warframe (properly balanced) wouldn't feel like Warframe.
Maybe with special gear, tuned so it's not a one shot kill like in the current PvP, and the use of those generic powers DE wants to add, it could kind of be a viable thing to do.

[BrotherIcarus]

If nothing awesome is locked in the badlands, I'll be so sad.

Badland will not be PvP nor will the solar rails.

[.Talia.]

 Warframe really, really isn't the right game for a real PvP mode.

 

 Minigames like Dueling or even a short and not-so-serious CTF mode can be made to work just fine but a real, serious PvP will always turn up as a joke.

 

 Warframe is just not the kind of game where a PvP mode would ever be stable or balanced enough without the things people find important in PvE being jeopardized.

 

Sorry but that's not true. Everything they changed for the Conclaves, like Warframe Abilities, do not affect PvE. For Example Radial Blind, Rhino Stomp, Bastille and many other abilities that functions a little bit different on the PvP without jeopardizing the PvE. Same goes with some Status Procs like Magnetic that is Disrupting (Depletes Energy) on PvP, different from the PvE Magnetic proc which only reduces 75% Shields. So its possible for them to balance one thing without messing with the other.

 

As many might know, i am a big fan of PvP in Warframe (Yes) and i believe that the Conclaves have great potential, i hope one day DE will focus on improving the PvP. 

 

PvP will never have any rewards and will never be forced, you guys have nothing to fear.

Edited April 6, 2014 by RexSol

[WhiteCopain]

While I agree PVP in warframe would be super hard to balance and likely won't happen, I'd really love to play some kind of Melee weapon only PVP map with weapons toned down and balanced (Taking lots of strikes to kill people with faster weapons for instance).

[Ritchel]

FIXED sets of PVP-ONLY weapons will be used in conclaves. (like sum paintball of wooden sticks.lul)

 

damage is balanced

 

no abilities allowed.

 

hows that mates?

[Arphila]

Personally I'm glad this is a multiplayer pve game. Too many pvp games out there already.

[Seanjuju]

Badland will not be PvP nor will the solar rails.

Just tell me that something uber will be only in the deadliest of badlands. Tell me that entire squads of mastery 12 will be helpless. Tell me everything is right in the world.

[BrotherIcarus]

Just tell me that something uber will be only in the deadliest of badlands. Tell me that entire squads of mastery 12 will be helpless. Tell me everything is right in the world.

We can only hope.

[DJ_Redwire]

If the PvP was balanced to a degree where you could actually take it seriously... it wouldn't be fun anymore. Customization is one of the core components of Warframe, in everything from mods to abilities to gear. In order for PvP to be properly balanced, you have to take all of that away and give everyone the same footing to start with. Take TF2 for example. If Warframe were to have a strict, natural PvP mode, it would probably have a variety of combat roles and classes like TF2 does. But as I mentioned, the amount of customization the player can do to its stats and mechanics would have to be drastically reduced to the point of removal.

 

Humor me for a moment as I generate a hypothetical scenario. Let's say in this new WF PvP mode Rhino is in the Tank class. I've now chosen the class I want to participate as, but that's pretty much the end of the line in terms of customization for my character in this PvP mode. Can't change the powers, can't change the stats. My Rhino has to have exactly the same combat parameters as the other Rhino on the enemy team, just like a red and blue Heavy staring at each other across the map. Maybe to some who are very attuned to PvP would find that enjoyable, but for me that sounds extremely boring. 

[Jiminez_Burial]

If nothing awesome is locked in the badlands, I'll be so sad.

The badlands are areas with harder AI enemies. The only PVP element to it is that alliances can challenge one another for control over solar rails, but they will never actually face.

[H0PE]

I'm just going to ask this question because some players want something more akin to pvp like a dojo invasion for more challenge. I am curious as to whether or not this will make warframe's fanbase even messier.

badlands is not pvp area.

they wont go thete to make it about pvp. they are sucky players [devs] they couldnt manage balancing for pvp as they cant balance weapons since day one.

[(PSN)Darilth]

Its ruined every game I use to play, thats why I came to Warframe in the first place, for the PvE & Team Missions....

[H0PE]

We can only hope.

you still use that word after age of 12?

you hope for a better ending for a disney cartoon when you are a kid, not when you watch people drinking, bullying each other at a table, making "wow awesome!" remarks about their own developed game and play with a parrot and call it a livestream.

 

in fact you cant even take these people seriously enough to give them your money anymore.

in my book at least.

[thatdamnlobster]

 Warframe really, really isn't the right game for a real PvP mode.

 

 Minigames like Dueling or even a short and not-so-serious CTF mode can be made to work just fine but a real, serious PvP will always turn up as a joke.

 

 Warframe is just not the kind of game where a PvP mode would ever be stable or balanced enough without the things people find important in PvE being jeopardized.

de can change the weapon values depending on what mode you go to. you dont need to jeopardize pve to balance for pvp. I'm not saying they should, but in hypotheticals, They could do it. I personally dont want to see them waste their time with something like this. maybe when this game has finished all its gamebreaking bugs and replacing all placeholders it could be a project they could work on, but it is possible.

[thatdamnlobster]

you still use that word after age of 12?

you hope for a better ending for a disney cartoon when you are a kid, not when you watch people drinking, bullying each other at a table, making "wow awesome!" remarks about their own developed game and play with a parrot and call it a livestream.

in fact you cant even take these people seriously enough to give them your money anymore.

in my book at least.

You have issues. And what is wrong with the parrot. Methinks this is a rare oppurtunity where they can feel good about their game and relax while showcasing new things because ppl like you tear them down so much. Your name is h0pe? more like ignorance. Edited April 6, 2014 by thatdamnlobster

[BrotherIcarus]

you still use that word after age of 12?

you hope for a better ending for a disney cartoon when you are a kid, not when you watch people drinking, bullying each other at a table, making "wow awesome!" remarks about their own developed game and play with a parrot and call it a livestream.

 

in fact you cant even take these people seriously enough to give them your money anymore.

in my book at least.

If you call that bullying you are to broad of a definition.

 

All I got to say id go do something have a good time cheer your self up man you sound like you need it.

[OpusRelinque]

PvP has not to be always "shoot the other in the head first".

Badlands will be PvP and it will be very intresting in "politics" between Clans.

[H0PE]

You have issues. And what is wrong with the parrot. Methinks this is a rare oppurtunity where they can feel good about their game and relax while showcasing new things because ppl like you tear them down so much. Your name is h0pe? more like ignorance.

***good talks...

walking out on the door leave the new guys talkabout the game on a pro level and enjoy themselves.***

Edited April 6, 2014 by H0PE

[Seanjuju]

you still use that word after age of 12?

you hope for a better ending for a disney cartoon when you are a kid, not when you watch people drinking, bullying each other at a table, making "wow awesome!" remarks about their own developed game and play with a parrot and call it a livestream.

 

in fact you cant even take these people seriously enough to give them your money anymore.

in my book at least.

Umb..your name...ummb.

 

Loneliness makes the heart dark and serious.

[thatdamnlobster]

***good talks...

walking out on the door leave the new fuys talkabout the game on a pro level and enjoy themselves.***

lol Edited April 6, 2014 by thatdamnlobster

[TrollsRoyce]

Not sure why people think PvP will ruin Warframe.. Lol. If you don't like PvP dont PvP its that simple. If a 10v10 PvP mode comes out, the people that want to be competitive in the community will participate - it won't have any effect on your PvE missions. Don't give input on a game mode that you don't like. That said, I think Warframe is in a unique position with its combat system and multiple classes to really dominate the action mmo market especially on the PvP side.

 

Dueling and 2v2s are a great start. With all the unique classes and possible group comps larger fights would prove to be even more enjoyable 10v10s 15v15, 20v20 etc. Nobody on here really needs to explain PvP to these devs either I mean these are the guys that brought us Unreal Tournament.. back in the day the best PvP you could get was either from Quake or Unreal. Warframe really pushes the envelope on what is possible in PvP with the different class variations. In additon, the AI in this game is bar none some of the best I've encountered. It would make for an interesting twist on the whole MOBA smite type gamemode rather than just have some $&*&*#(%& pathing like 99% of those games have. I myself prefer the standard deathmatch/team deathmatch but the future PvP game modes really excites me for team based play (CTF, Bombs, Extraction, Siege)  

 

I think an optional intrusion mode would be a nice touch where players could toggle it on/off before they start a mission. Basically intrusion mode lets another group/individual invade your mission if you get killed by them it knocks you out of your mission and its up to them to finish it.

 

Anyways though these are some amazing devs with a solid PvP record behind them I don't think they need some PvE carebears explaining to them how to make a "fair" PvP mode. If mid to large scale PvP does come out in the future you can trust it will be AAA.