Buying Content Vs. Earning It

[--Q--JoeTheBanshee]

There are players that earn their Warframes, Weapons, Mods, and Parts and there are those that buy them. Many would argue that those who earn them have more experience and skill while others say that if there is the means to do so then it is fair to buy them.

 

What are your thoughts on it? Keep it objective and don't incite and argument!

 

 

[Kartumterek]

There are players that earn their Warframes, Weapons, Mods, and Parts and there are those that buy them. Many would argue that those who earn them have more experience and skill while others say that if there is the means to do so then it is fair to buy them.

 

What are your thoughts on it? Keep it objective and don't incite and argument!

 

 

The existence of this post invalidates the very last sentence.

 

On top of which your premise is totally off.

[letir]

I'm tired from RNG.

[--Q--JoeTheBanshee]

The existence of this post invalidates the very last sentence.

 

On top of which your premise is totally off.

Give me your thoughts on the topic, not the post. Don't derail it already.

[--Q--JoeTheBanshee]

I'm tired from RNG.

That's a very fair point, and I know many people feel this way. What would be your idea on fixing the RNG to give people better drops?

[Stormandreas]

Give me your thoughts on the topic, not the post. Don't derail it already.

Well he is right.

Anyway, it's pointless to say who is more skilled/experienced. Those who buy the weapon still have to level it, giving them the same amount of experience with it as anyone else. The only difference is they got it a bit faster and spent realy money to get it, so instead they lose something... universal say, for something specific and virtual.

 

Considering the time it takes to earn the weapons, there needs to be that quick alternative that also requires a lot to justify earning it over buying, otherwise MANY players would leave, as some just don't have the time to spend farming for that one weapon.

[Zagrax]

Farming warframes is 100 percent easier than it used to be considering that we now get a blueprint piece 100 percent of the time, compared to a blueprint drop perhaps..15 percent of the time on the old system that you could miss if it got blown around with the old infernal leafblower (pre-buff ignis) I've seen players that buy warframes and those that earn them play just as well, but you could argue that the person that goes and gets them may have a little more technical knowledge on the game and may have more mod options at their disposal.

[Brahmastra]

I personally don't care what people do.

It's more about you having the time or the patience for it. I only bought Vauban because of the terribad alert stuff back in the day. If I would start today I would just do his alerts.
Grinding feels more satisfying through, IMO.

[izzatuw]

Time>Money

Money>Time

Look, people who buy there prime parts/mods still did work in real life.

Those who farm for stuff have some advantage. If they're farming for corrupted mods and have spares of them they can just sell them. There's no actual difference. Unless:

Money gets there thing faster, and there prime version gets 50% energy pool than complain

[Tsukinoki]

I've bought very few prime pieces. But the ones I have are after I have spent litterally dozens of keys and gotten absolutely nothing for it. Take the Braton Prime Barrel and Receiver. After running 20-30 T3D missions (Most of the time with just one other person) I still hadn't gotten either of them, though I did manage to get tons of Ankyros Prime blades and gauntlets. RNG just wasn't on my side. I think it is fair of me to spend my plat to buy the parts.

And I dont see why people should care so much about how others spend their own money.

Either way it is a time investment:

Either you spend the time in game grinding for it, or you spend the time working and getting paid and then buy it to skip a grind in the game.

[Sixty5]

Grinding at work or Grinding in the game, no real difference in my eyes.

[--Q--JoeTheBanshee]

Considering the time it takes to earn the weapons, there needs to be that quick alternative that also requires a lot to justify earning it over buying, otherwise MANY players would leave, as some just don't have the time to spend farming for that one weapon.

Very true

[(PSN)andyb_b5]

My thoughts?

 

It is what it is, a game and the object is to have fun.

 

If beating/collecting every objective via in game only methods does it for you then.... you win.

 

If paying to rush or buying pre-built gear allows you to chill and enjoy the time you have ....... you win.

 

If you thrust your ego out and belabour others on how they should be playing the game...... you lose.

 

I like it in this game that the more patience you have, the less you need to use real cash. The option to spend is always there should I want to go that way.

 

As for the skill/expertise thing. Skill is inate, expertise is the practise of said skill.  Different players, different natural skill levels. More play time allows a player to close/widen the expertise gap accordingly.

[CryoClaw]

DE needs to make a decent amount of money somehow...

[Acaelus]

I buy most of the frames and such in the packs that come out with each major update (10, 11, 12, etc) but aside from that I just craft everything between. Mostly because I buy platinum every 2-3 major patches.

I wouldn't really say that it makes me better than other players who earn things. But at the same time earning something doesn't make you better either. There's not exactly "skill" in warframe. It's a shooter, which means everything is based on your aim.

Having played a lot of extremely fast paced shooters (gunz, S4 and the like) a lot, the aiming at several targets in rapid succession while moving at high speed just comes naturally to me.

Had I spent an extra several hours farming Tethys, practically OHKO'ing everything (including the boss) for orokin cells instead of buying a big update bundle, would I be better at warframe?

Probably not. Not to any significant degree at least. There's no challenge that would require my utmost aiming skills. There's no challenge that requires my utmost reaction timing.

If something takes none of your effort to complete you're not going to get better at it by repeating that infinitely. That's how I treat farming in warframe.

I mean you could always farm the mats for the weapon, or you could buy it and actually enjoy those weapons doing something else in the game you enjoy.

[Agent_of_Change]

I don't care if people buy stuff.  There is literally no way for Warframe to be pay to win the way I play it and if someone want to shortcut game play, grind, whatever that's on them not me.

 

In a coop game the only thing that really matters is that you play reasonably with your teammates and since I never play in a public game what other people do doesn't bother me.  The only caveat to this is nominally 'exclusive' things i think that those should remain 'exclusive' if they are named as such, however that is a purely emotional reaction and I have no good reason why that should go wither way.

 

Bottom line, people buying things doesn't affect my game play and it makes DE money.  So all in all it's a good thing with no real downside, I mean I'm not  forced to buy anything but slots and even that is a choice.

[DeccanTraps]

Really its a matter of Elitism, the cancer of online gaming.

 

Its not enough for us to all have fun with a game. People have to know that the Elitist is better than them, the elitist is constantly afraid that his time to completion / credits per min / damage per second / kill count /what ever synthetic measure of superiority might be dragged down fractionally by a person less obviously Worthy as themselves.

 

Or Worse, that someone might get the same thing they chose to get the hard way in some more straightforwards manner.

 

the root of the problem seems to me, that these people have the root of their enjoyment external, its not enough to play the game, the world has to vindicate how much better at it they are than other people.

[anavn]

If you tanlking about the wepon schop it does not have any hard to craft stuff you need the labs and a bunche of formas so really you can not buy rare stuff except for stalker set

[Vargras]

Just because someone buys a warframe or weapon doesn't mean they're magically "less skilled" than someone who takes the time to farm it up.

 

I bought Vauban because he's a pain in the &#! to get normally, and I know for a fact that I'm not automatically worse than the guy who waits 3-4 weeks for all the alerts so they can build it.

[(PSN)Aeon-Rising]

I would imagine the people who grinded for it have way more game experience. But really it's all irrelevent. Some people will be better then others regardless. People who pay money contribute to the devs and keep the ship afloat. So both ways have merits.

[SwissChris]

Many would argue that those who earn them have more experience and skill...

 

Many would argue that you have no idea how economics work, that time is valuable and that it doesn't necessarily effect player skill :)

Edited April 7, 2014 by SwissChris

[FlyDungas]

instant gratification

[notionphil]

Equipment in WF is not challenge-locked, it's RNG locked.

 

That makes the decision Buy vs Grind for Random Length.

 

The word 'skill' shouldn't even be a part of this discussion.

[Mama_Sasha]

Patience, thats the difference. Some people have the patience to fight against RNG, some dont.

[Egg_Chen]

Earning items does not equal "skill".

Buying items does not equal a lack of "skill".

Choice is good, people with more money than time help keep the game developing.

Saying that, I earnt everything, I prefer to play than buy.