Help Me Choose Between Zephyr And Valkyr

[Vheraun]

Title is pretty self-explanatory.

 

I have all of Valkyr's blueprints and they're not too hard to make. As for Zephyr, I have her blueprints, but with my limited time, Oxium's a pain to grind. I just want opinions on both, since I only have one more 'frame slot (until I sell Rhino, that is).

 

inb4"It's all subjective". I'm asking for your own, subjective, opinions. Preferably not on usefulness as much as sheer fun.

[Tulzscha]

Moved to the proper section.

[XenosInfinity]

I personally find Zephyr far more enjoyable than Valkyr. Mainly because Valkyr tends to end up in Hysteria constantly and Zephyr zips around all over the place being equally difficult to kill through Turbulence whilst still able to shoot.

[Naugus]

Until they change the animation for Valkyr's 4 so that it can actually hit reliably, you should farm the oxium for Zephyr and get that built.

[Lycrius]

Until they change the animation for Valkyr's 4 so that it can actually hit reliably, you should farm the oxium for Zephyr and get that built.

this.

 

All melee valkyr is fun but being stuck in hysteria and not being able to hit half the stuff thats on the board gets old fast, + zephyr can fly, has corpus invulnerability and lolnados. Get on them mobile defence missions and get dat oxium.

[Brahmastra]

None.

[Vheraun]

Moved to the proper section.

Thanks for that!

 

None.

That, on the other hand, isn't really helpful. Eh, thanks for your input, despite the fact that I'll ignore it.

 

this.

 

All melee valkyr is fun but being stuck in hysteria and not being able to hit half the stuff thats on the board gets old fast, + zephyr can fly, has corpus invulnerability and lolnados. Get on them mobile defence missions and get dat oxium.

Moblie defense missions? I've been farming the Corpus Survival on Saturn, which mission do you recommend?

Also, thanks for your inputs, everyone. That's pretty much what I had in mind as well, I just wanted a confirmation on Zephyr.

[Krjal]

this.

 

All melee valkyr is fun but being stuck in hysteria and not being able to hit half the stuff thats on the board gets old fast, + zephyr can fly, has corpus invulnerability and lolnados. Get on them mobile defence missions and get dat oxium.

extra this.

 

Kappa on Sedna is the go-to Oxium farm afaik. Helped a few people rack up the Oxi drops there.

 

edit. Rhino Stomp is one of the few abilities that stops the Oxium Ospreys from charging you. Since you have a Rhino that makes it even easier to farm there.

Edited April 8, 2014 by Krjal

[Brahmastra]

That, on the other hand, isn't really helpful. Eh, thanks for your input, despite the fact that I'll ignore it.

I said none because I don't like those frames. Normally you should go for the frames you want or you can get, in example you get the frame from the current planet you are grinding on.

 

Either way you pretty much answered your own question:

"but with my limited time, Oxium's a pain to grind"

 

So unless you like Zephyr more you get her first. Maybe you have other frames left to collect? or is it just between these 2?

[Vheraun]

I said none because I don't like those frames. Normally you should go for the frames you want or you can get, in example you get the frame from the current planet you are grinding on.

 

Either way you pretty much answered your own question:

"but with my limited time, Oxium's a pain to grind"

 

So unless you like Zephyr more you get her first. Maybe you have other frames left to collect? or is it just between these 2?

I still have quite a few frames left to collect. But for now, the question stands for these two, I know all of them, and I think one of these will be the most fun for me.

 

The case is that I think I like Zephyr more, but I won't have her for a at least another week or so, until I can get around to farming Oxium.

 

Now, I know that I said I welcome subjective answers, but if you have nothing to add short of the fact that you don't like either, it doesn't contribute much to the conversation. If you told me why you don't like them, it might have helped.

[(PSN)witch3rDC52]

I have Zephyr and she is in my top 4 frames to use as I really like her mobility.  I don't enjoy the wall climbing where you have to hop back and forth to get up higher so Zephyr takes care of that. I light up her Tornados with my Phage to add viral, corrosive and cold damage to the Nado.  Abilities 3 and 4 are long lasting compared to other frames 3 and 4 abilities.

 

I went to Mimas Saturn to farm for Oxium.  The other night a squadmate and I got the shackles from the Gustav 3 and it requires 20 oxium to free one's self. My squadmate was a new player.  We did 35 minutes in that survival and he got 30 oxium and I got 28.    When I farmed Zephyer, I did three nights of  Mimas runs for about 4 to 5 mission and built a part for her each night.  Three nights work for parts and she was then underway for the build.  Ask for help in the mission to have folks mark off Oxium drops when they kill an Osprey.

[Liverslices]

I personally find Zephyr far more enjoyable than Valkyr. Mainly because Valkyr tends to end up in Hysteria constantly and Zephyr zips around all over the place being equally difficult to kill through Turbulence whilst still able to shoot.

WRONG. Please dont think this. Valkyrs best ability is Warcry. When modded for power strength, Warcry increases swing speed and armor by +100% and decreases enemy movement speed by -100%. That gives her over 2500 armor!!!!!!!!! Literally unkillable with a maxed vitality and quickthinking/rage combo. Hysteria should only be used to regain health or revive teammates. 

 

 

Zephyr on the other hand is much less glamerous. Tailwind is alright... But not great in small rooms (where most combat is). Divebomb is horrible, and i dont even equip the mod card. Turbulence is nice, but not really anything special. And Tornado is ok. It is a good cc, but sometimes throws the enemies CLOSER to you. It also throws them around if it diesnt kill them, which could lead to some very bad situations.

Edited April 8, 2014 by Liverslices

[2old4gamez]

Zephyr is currently, in my opinion, the best of the two choices.

 

I've tried to use Valkyr but she seems to be lacking a certain 'something' and feels clumsy compared the agility of Zephyr.

Edited April 8, 2014 by 2old4gamez

[Vheraun]

Thanks for all the opinions.


On a side note, I got Booben's chassis today. If the helmet pops up tomorrow, this whole conversation will be needless. :D

[Ryme]

Thanks for all the opinions.

On a side note, I got Booben's chassis today. If the helmet pops up tomorrow, this whole conversation will be needless. :D

 

Since you went and jinxed yourself, go with Zephyr.  The ostrich frame is much more versatile than the skinned cat frame.

[ExplodingStars]

With the Melee 2.0 in mind...

Valkyr could be more fun to play with than Zephyr (not implying Zephyr is bad)

[CptWasea]

Just get more slots. Or sell Rhino. See, which one you get depends on what you find fun, there's not much we can say here.

[Khallisto]

Just get more slots. Or sell Rhino. See, which one you get depends on what you find fun, there's not much we can say here.

+1

 

I don't use Zephyr's mobility since I just use her as CC frame with Tornados. 3rd skill is not even equipped. 1st + 2nd are used just as fast knockdown.

 

Valkyr is the frame to do Nightmare alerts (no shields? hysteria + fleeting expertise), When I'm exploring maps, I just change my maxed Steel Fiber for Master Thief and let's farm! 

 

Both are funny to me, but I always use good weapons (ignis, grakata and latron prime, marelok, embolist and brakk, kestrel and orthos prime, are my main choices for arsenal).

 

If you want to choose for skills, go to Kappa (good runs, without booster, can give you 50-60 oxium) and get Zephyr. Anyway, you'll need to level both for mastery.

Edited April 8, 2014 by Khallisto

[Darzk]

Zephyr can fly. Ripline is in no way as cool.

 

Both can be effectively immortal, but Valkyr does so by being locked in melee.

 

Tornadoes are decent CC, but really piss people off when trying to kill stuff or collect loot.

 

Dive Bomb and Paralysis are equally terrible.

 

 

Basically Zephyr flys around shooting stuff, and Valkyr runs around punching stuff. That's it. That's all they do.

[ArsVampyre]

Do you like to move, shoot, fly, block shots, and have a purpose in the game? Get Zephyr.

 

Do you like to mash 4 and then mash melee and nothing else?  Get Valkyr.

 

So pretty much get Zephyr unless you just want to mash 4 to be invulnerable and then punch things.

 

I guess if you can also enjoy Valkyr if you like to roll play Scorpion from Mortal Combat or Batman's grapple gun without the cool batman moves.

 

Valkyrs a pretty bad frame, IMO.  One of the least valuable.