De You Finally Created The Ultimate Cause To Not Play Online Anymore

[Scr4mp]

Many of us don't play in open groups anymore because of all those troll kids and doorheroes and what do I know is running around out there.

 

I for myself still played defenses in open groups from time to time untill yesterday.

There are troll lokis out there and doorheroes but they eventually die when the wave counter goes up and get back to the pod. And they even killed enemies in a reasonable amount of time, don't hindering the progress.

 

But since U13 there are hydroids.... while I didn't mind them at first, yesterday there was an hydroid in this defense mission who absolutly positively took the cake. He went to the spawn locations and activated his undertow there. Every. Single. Wave. I can live with spawn killers, but this takes WEEKS to kill enemies, slowing down the whole defense by an incredible amount of time.

 

This is seriously a new lvl of trolling. You can't do anything about it. Can't keep him from doing this or kill the enemies to speed things up.

 

I will never ever again play defenses in Online mode anymore...

[Ishki88]

Hate the player not the DE.

[Genoscythe]

A good thing would be to get a clan and play with members you trust, because you cant expect of randoms to play like you want it. Theres an ingame chat, if that doesnt work there is a recruiting chat where you can look for peeps that are serious.

[DMan]

You can add him to your ignore list and hope that soon they will implement a system that won't allow ignored players to enter your games

Edited April 15, 2014 by DMan128

[VKhaun]

Haven't seen it myself, but I can see how that'd make you rage...

 

My new pet peve is when people go to Survival and run around annihilating all the mobs and ignoring oxygen. I can either scramble to keep up and let the mission fail, or I can run from capsule to capsule like a madman trying not to die and getting crappy XP because I'm out of range of the crazy person.

Edited April 15, 2014 by VKhaun

[RespectTheInternet]

That... has absolutely nothing to do with the DE. The DE did not make the troller troll. The players doing it are. While it sucks that you have apparently encountered so many of them, just watch out for them in the future and dont join any games with them. A block or report feature would be helpful though.

[ZeGreymane]

Just ask DE to add a today-too-needed votekick. :3

 

Let's people deal with troll like in most online game.

A cute little kick, give him is reward if you want, but let us kick annoying player happy to piss you off even when you have made a gentle ask...

[GreyEnneract]

I thought it'd be cool to be able to kill the enemies trapped down there.

[SaintLucifer]

I thought it'd be cool to be able to kill the enemies trapped down there.

 

You can if you have a AOE skill, not sure if Ogris have enough blast range for it too but you can always try explosive weapons.

Edited April 15, 2014 by SaintLucifer

[Guest Shibboleet]

Undertow needs to be done away with. Left as-is it is easy to troll. Changed to let us kill them in there and it is too good.

 

+ If it did get changed to let us damage them, it would be the most boring frame out there, which is why DE changed frost to begin with. But then it would be even worse, because instead of being able to shoot during an active frost bubble, the Hydroid would be forced to afk for 70 seconds.

[latarzanla]

There should be an honour system, pretty much evaluating all the other players in any given game, and then create tiers of games for the different tiers of players: T1=Preety cool guys, T2=ok guys, T3=ok guys with a hint of trolling, T4="you can live without them"guys, T5=heavy trolls and T6=door heroes(yes, they are worse imho).
 

This, of course, would be a two way connection: if you screw up many times=more players will "downvote" you, if you play in a group friendly manner and aren't a douchebag=more players will "upvote" you.

 

After a trial time of, let's say a few weeks, players would settle in the given tiers and the systems would be ready to accomodate this kind of up or down movement, thus making, or rather forcing trolls play with trolls, door heroes play with door heroes, and regular players play with each other.

[Shareesh]

You know, you can always just leave the group at the first opportunity if you encounter players like these. 

 

It's way more difficult for someone to implement a social measure than it is to take the matter in your hands. Neither whining in the forums nor in-game griefing is the sollution. Just abort missions and re-do them. The chances of you bumping into the same group are few.

[Guest Shibboleet]

There should be an honour system, pretty much evaluating all the other players in any given game, and then create tiers of games for the different tiers of players: T1=Preety cool guys, T2=ok guys, T3=ok guys with a hint of trolling, T4="you can live without them"guys, T5=heavy trolls and T6=door heroes(yes, they are worse imho).

 

This, of course, would be a two way connection: if you screw up many times=more players will "downvote" you, if you play in a group friendly manner and aren't a douchebag=more players will "upvote" you.

 

After a trial time of, let's say a few weeks, players would settle in the given tiers and the systems would be ready to accomodate this kind of up or down movement, thus making, or rather forcing trolls play with trolls, door heroes play with door heroes, and regular players play with each other.

What is to stop troll players from downvoting good players?

[Scr4mp]

This is not a rage thread at all, my only intend is to let DE see what they did there and what their actions lead to.

 

And of course I got a clan and alot of people I can play with and I trust. But I still liked to play in online mode with random people sometimes.

[Owmion]

1.don't revive Doorheroes
2. just let them die there 

Edited April 15, 2014 by White-Miphf

[Ritchel]

this is one problem, makes you hate the public

[Agent_of_Change]

My question is why you would ever play with pubs at all anyway?

[H0PE]

Hate the player not the DE.

 

Wrong, Dont hate the player, hate the game, properly.

Game mechanics broken? Hate the game dev, not the player.

[Tsukinoki]

Hate the player not the frame.

The groups I've played with have actually had a few amazing uses for Under Tow in the Dark Sector defense maps.

If the rest of the party got distracted by mobs and some ran up to the pod the Hydroid would just puddle and hold them, unable to damage the pod, until another member of the party showed up to help him clear out the enemies.

Its an amazing team skill if used properly.

But nearly any frame can have trolls, even Novas can use their wormhole to send you outside of the map. So hate the trolls and pugs not the frame or its abilities.

If you have really come across that many hydroid trolls just leave a match where you see a hydroid in it. Problem solved.

[ViLeDeth]

Wrong, Dont hate the player, hate the game, properly.

Game mechanics broken? Hate the game dev, not the player.

 

Mad cuz bad - hate the kid that is doing the trolling, he/she's not responsible enough to use his frame without causing you to bleed out from the butt then there is only one thing to do: recruit people and mention no door heroes. Simple.

 

Or play solo - I play solo 90% of the time and when I go online, if I see a door hero I just let them do all the work and I'll just afk or I'll spam my abilities to kill the enemies before they can.

 

After that I just go back to doing my thing, not a care in the world.

 

DE has nothing to do with trolls.

[Dairkrinn]

Maybe a change to undertow is needed, it could drain energy over time (maybe after a certain time, maybe after 5-10 sec), or have a maximum of ennemies in it.

It also could have a buff to damage to go with it, or the ability to damage ennemies from other players outside of it...

Or combination of some/all of this.

 

Even if it's not DE's fault that some players play like that , it's up to them to change the tools used for trolling and abuse.

[ZeGreymane]

Votekick needed?

 

2 players vote needed for a 4 squad, seems fair...

 

Something DE really can do against troll and annoying players...

Giving rewards to the kicked player, no lose for him.

If two friends get some fun by kicking other player, not a big deal for kicked player how should not play with this two troll friends.

 

No, I don't understand why we still haven't got one of the main used tool against annoying people...

 

Afterwards, yes I got a clan, yes I can play with friend, but sometime you know, you launch the game and just want have a mission with some random guy.

Sometime you found a nice crew, but a lot of time, only one dumb guy playing alone, or taking fun by be especially annoying for other.

Usually when I made a gentle ask got some other part of the crew how are agree with me, but the annoying player who don't give a ****.

Give us a vote...

 

Let the democracy speak! We need a vote(kick). :p

 

PS: No rage on it, just a way to avoid some boring game, finally an improvement of the overall gameplay, and perhaps, after X kick, some players will start to think about the way to play as a team. Or play private to play as they want...

Edited April 15, 2014 by ZeGreymane

[iamah]

make it so that shooting the puddle damages the enemies instantly

[Rafarix]

I solo most of the time myself, I do public matches on kappa for xp.

 

If I see a door hero I just go to where s/he is and mostly stand there leeching xp. It isn't DE fault for bad players. I had a valk pull me away from a console with rip-line and I blame the player not DE.

[iamah]

Votekick needed?

 

this would punish the regular players that just want to join a public game...

 

trolling is like terrorism, you can sacrifice everyone's freedom in name of "fighting it", or you can find alternative solutions, in this case making the puddle absorb teammates damage so enemies take the hit instantly

 

PS: this same solution could be applied to Frost trolls that occasionaly use the globe to block damage

Edited April 15, 2014 by iamah