# None Of Us Will Reach Rank 30 (With Numbers :3)

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I often see people posting about when Rank 30 will become viable, and I had some free time  after some quick arithemetic heres what I have (mostly assumption im not a math whiz)

HOW MUCH XP TO GET TO 30

Assuming you use the formula 2500 multiplied by rank squared ,you need exactly 2,250,000 xp to be rank 30, and currently we the highest mastery is 16 with 647, 617 xp meaning if you are at rank 16 now, you will need 1,602,383  mastery to reach rank 30.

HOW MANY WEAPONS THEY NEED TO RELEASE

If DE releases about 1 weapon per week every week, and each weapon has 3000 mastery, then we would need approx. 534.128 or about ~ 534  new weapons to reach rank 30, or if new warframes and sentinels are introduced, then we would need more or less 450 to 500 weapons

If one weapon is released every week, it will take 3738 days equivalent to 10.241 years to release every weapon to reach rank 30 by which time most of us may stop playing. Even with special events, updates and the likes it will take at least 6 years assuming there are no hitches

GAME POPULARITY

Withe a playerbase of ~ 5.5 million active players worldwide Digital Extremes should be working on warframe for at least the next four years, as long as people dont start quitting en mass, meaning people may stop playing and development may stop on Warframe before Beta ever ends. This is assuming Digital Extremes does not begin work on any other games in between that.

HOW RELEASING MORE WARFRAMES AND SENTINELS / PETS SLIGHTLY REDUCES NUMBER OF WEAPONS NEEDED TO GET TO RANK 30

Based on the number of warframes currently in game (24 warframes over the period of 1 year and 8 months or 20 months), , we can assume we will have 1 warframe every 1.2 months and 1 sentinel / pet every 4-6 months +

Over a period of 4 years, the could therefore release approximately 26+ new warframes and 8 new sentinels If they consistently produce new ones after this. (Most would just be primes perhaps) although all of these sentinels and frames will only contribute 204 000 xp, reducing the xp needed from weps to 1398383 equivalent to 466 + weapons  and thereofore

WHY WE CANNOT REACH 30

If you joint after closed, beta, you already have missed out on at least 40k + mastery and most event weapons and retired weapons will only add to that number. Add to this founder exclusive weapons and it comes to around 50k + of mastery that you missed out on. The most recent weapon to be removed, ether daggers are a prime example of why you should get every weapon currently in store just in case the bps are removed like boar, machete, snipetron etc.

Considering all of this, unless you are a founder who has played since closed beta, it will be very hard to reach rank 29 or 30 especially if you missed the once in a lifetime event weapons which count for mastery you will never get. This may be DEs way of thanking whoever stuck with it since then.

And the final reason is,boredom. More and more  players are getting sick of this game, so there is a high chance that we would probably all get sick of playing this game before even reaching rank 20.

+ +THE IMPACT OF UPDATES and SOLAR MAAPS++

I almost forgot but some of you reminded me that the starchart could be expanded, and that every update brings a few extra weapons (4 or 5) but this shouldn't really make much of a difference since starcharts average about 60 to 100 xp for the first run> DE will also try to improve old weps before starting to come up with too many new ones

This insight was delightful tho,m i have a better perspective :3

TL;DR Based on math reaching 30 is impossible because youll probably get sick of this game

Godspeed :D

P.S. ill recalculate more and add some stuff later hue :3

Edited by Somedude1000
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Blah blah blah I AM PREPARED TO KEEP PLAYING FOR 10 YEARS

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Blah blah blah I AM PREPARED TO KEEP PLAYING FOR 10 YEARS

True this game is great stress relief from college. Its also not too addictive (maybe for me) witha ll the bugs around spoiling half the fun :D

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Bring the grind on DE come at me!

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I win no matter what. TRY AND THROW NUMBERS AT THAT!

Edited by BecomeLikeWater
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Personally, I wouldn't even want to get to rank 30 in the first place. Sounds like too much of a chore. I'd rather just get to rank 10, get every shiny and interesting thing that's released, and just mindlessly grind. Also, until we get more information on the focus system, it's not a big deal.

Mathwise, your large numbers have sufficiently impressed. Request proofs.

Edited by RespectTheInternet
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get to mastery rank 10, then take my preferred equipment and forma it enough and stay with it forever. That is and will always be my plan. Where preferred equipment can ofcourse change, but i will not be levelling up usesless swords and pistols anymore that i never plan to use.

(for example now i have some pistols at level 30 where i made less than 100 kills with >.>)

Warframe XP.

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Personally, I wouldn't even want to get to rank 30 in the first place. Sounds like too much of a chore. I'd rather just get to rank 10, get every shiny and interesting thing that's released, and just mindlessly grind. Also, until we get more information on the focus system, it's not a big deal.

Mathwise, your large numbers have sufficiently impressed. Request proofs.

Sorry dude mos of this math has to be assumptions coz we arent sure what DE is planning just yet, but the part about How much xp we need is actually true, while the rest is just logical prediction

Also, this

enjoy

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What people have been talking about hitting rank 30? Most people just talk about getting to 15, which I believe is the highest you can get right now.

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Other items or systems to get mastery may appear.

The solar system map did not give mastery originally but now it does.

We are also getting "lenses" in the focus system. Lenses maybe another mastery rewarding item.

Sentinels are becoming "pets" and we are getting ore things added such as kubrows.

Though I dont doubt it will take an exceptionally long time to reach 30 I believe DE will allow it to be reachable in less than a 10 year time frame.

Do not panic Tenno, the lotus provides.

Edited by MDRLOz
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But i'm half way there...

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You forget new sentinel weapons, which would make 24,000 more mastery, equivalent to 8 weapons.

Edit did the math. Numbers are correct but the 8 sent weapons need to be taken into account as it removes about 2 months.

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I'm expecting a re-work of how mastery rank adds up with the Focus system anyhow.

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Considering Mastery Rank means nothing after rank 8 except more extractors, I don't see a problem not being able to hit rank 30.  Though, for the people that are achievement seekers, I do think it was a bit unreasonable for DE to put in all the Mastery ranks in steam up to 30 when that is impossible to get.  They could have put them in one at a time as the rank became possible.

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Blah blah blah I AM PREPARED TO KEEP PLAYING FOR 10 YEARS

He said 10k dude

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He said 10k dude

... it will take 3738 days equivalent to 10.241 years to release....

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As long as I get my stalking fan I would never stop playing.

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What people have been talking about hitting rank 30? Most people just talk about getting to 15, which I believe is the highest you can get right now.

But... but I'm rank 16.... D;

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Well then ..... Guess I need to ... keep playing like I am now ... yep. I am willing to play FOREVER!!!! *twitches*

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Well, they were asking about 'what the next 2.0' should be on the previous livestream...Mastery 2.0!

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U100 RANK 30 POSSIBLE = No life Tenno

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But... but I'm rank 16.... D;

Nope, all an illusion, you are really only r15 :P

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Nope, all an illusion, you are really only r15 :P

You mean... that rank 16 test... twas all for naught?

*cries*

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You mean... that rank 16 test... twas all for naught?

*cries*

Fear not Tenno, you will always be Rank 16 in my eyes, unless you reach rank 17 and so on :D