Takomancer Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) i dont know what am i missing here? soloed entire planet today except the defences Edited April 4, 2013 by Takomancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Seems to be related to the level of enemies wherever you are playing. Still trying to figure out the scope of it. From what I'm seeing people flip out about I imagine what might have happened is a level of level scaling. Enemies higher leveled then you hit you harder. Enemies too low leveled for you also hit you harder. Sounds stupid as sin. Hope this isn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaAlba Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 i dont know what am i missing here? soloed entire planet today except the defences Congratulations, so did I and I'm sure many, many other people. But we definitely "feel" the changes. Hence, the discussion going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altale Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Mercury enemies still do 10 damage per hit on me, I might try Kril again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murasume Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 The harder the game, the better it is~ that's what I think for most of my games~ makes you feel like you did something great~ once you finished the boss or finished the lvl~ I personally like the challenge~! bring on the fury~! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 The harder the game, the better it is~ that's what I think for most of my games~ makes you feel like you did something great~ once you finished the boss or finished the lvl~ I personally like the challenge~! bring on the fury~! Yeah, no. Challenging games are great - but giving everything plenty of health and a lot of damage isn't really challenging considering the AI is so dense you can just exploit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkfire Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 i dont know what am i missing here? soloed entire planet today except the defences Why not try difficulty level 4 and 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwAveZ Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 i guess they buffed early game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeseHasLeafs Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 enemies got buffed? When? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anelyn Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 They did. I noticed not only more damage / hp on them, but also their AI is a bit better plus they won't get stuck anymore (at least most of the times, still odd dog stuck behind stairs on some infestation mining map). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtorma Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 enemies got buffed? When? You must have some really good stuff, because as a new player with limited gear, I can definatly tell the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROSING Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Well, to be fair, they made our health and shields level up with our frames now, so maybe I did take more damage, but I could tank a lot of shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeseHasLeafs Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 You must have some really good stuff, because as a new player with limited gear, I can definatly tell the difference. Not really. I just don't really pay attention to how much it takes to kill an enemy I guess. Just hit them til they drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) Not really. I just don't really pay attention to how much it takes to kill an enemy I guess. Just hit them til they drop. They die at the same rate but they all seem to be doing more damage. Have you noticed them chewing through shields a bit faster? That is apparently the case. It looks on the surface to be an almost global damage increase. Edited April 4, 2013 by Blatantfool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) Well, to be fair, they made our health and shields level up with our frames now, so maybe I did take more damage, but I could tank a lot of shots. So they increase health and shields to ease the problem with warframes being so squishy that Shield and Health mods where nearly required. Then they increase the damage enemies deal to essentially negate the newly increase passive health and shields - meaning health and shield mods are still mandatory. Brilliant. So they simply decided to patch in a circle. Edited April 4, 2013 by Blatantfool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braken Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 The harder the game, the better it is~ that's what I think for most of my games~ makes you feel like you did something great~ once you finished the boss or finished the lvl~ I personally like the challenge~! bring on the fury~! I hate to say it, but you're a minority. Either DE needs to balance out the difficulty to favor the majority, or they need to impliment difficulty levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeseHasLeafs Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 oh ok. Well I got a Redirection before the passive shield increases, and bumped it up so I have got a fair amount of shields. Not the crazy crapton some people have, like 1500 or anything. Mainly I noticed things like the new model for mat drops. And the slightly broken presets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murasume Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I hate to say it, but you're a minority. Either DE needs to balance out the difficulty to favor the majority, or they need to impliment difficulty levels. awesome~! I'm a Minority, lol~ it comes with constant play of difficult games~ try out monster hunter if you like hard games~ played that game back when it was on PS2 and beyond~ monster hunter is a very challenging game~ not for those that don't like losing~ same with Dark Souls~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) awesome~! I'm a Minority, lol~ it comes with constant play of difficult games~ try out monster hunter if you like hard games~ played that game back when it was on PS2 and beyond~ monster hunter is a very challenging game~ not for those that don't like losing~ same with Dark Souls~ Dark Souls wasn't actually hard. Edit: In fact - neither is Monster Hunter. Anyone who can read does just fine in both games. Go play a bullet hell or something. Edited April 4, 2013 by Blatantfool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulie Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Try fighting some high level grineer. Have fun using all your revives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murasume Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Dark Souls wasn't actually hard. Edit: In fact - neither is Monster Hunter. Anyone who can read does just fine in both games. Go play a bullet hell or something. lol bullet hell I acutally love those games~ always reminded me of Touhou (if you ever heard of it)~ oh the colors, I loved it all~ how does reading help by the way~? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulturnus Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 He can't reply to you if reading didnt help! aha! Now back on a more serious note. The patch is flawed because it contradicts itself with DE_steve explained to us just a couple of days back. he proposed that Vitality and Redirection should be optional mods not mandatory must have mods. His solution was to channel the mods to a base stat passive ( now this is important because most players seem to miss this.) Now the damage was increased across the board in all levels and this is important because now players are faced with more powerful mobs and not having the full benefit of the passive stats if the warframe isnt level 30 yet. So what can we do? slap in Vitality and Redirection this act completely counteracts with DE_Steve's so called efforts of making Vit and Redir "optional" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuneGrey Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I expect we'll see some more adjustment in a day or so. Metrics tracking will show a massive increase in revives used if people are just getting mowed down, and hopefully that will see the difficulty tweaked some. The big thing of course is that I would hope to see more drops made available if higher level content is made much more difficult - certainly I don't mind running a fairly challenging mission, but having to run it 50+ times for prints makes things... difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirdstar Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) The big thing of course is that I would hope to see more drops made available if higher level content is made much more difficult - certainly I don't mind running a fairly challenging mission, but having to run it 50+ times for prints makes things... difficult. Yeah about that. I just did a Phorid run in my fully tricked out Saryn. Now enemies were more dangerous (chargers seem to be quite buffed here) but I had no issues mowing everything down while working my way towards the boss, killing the boss and then making my way, slowly, to extract. However, after about 130 kills I got a grand total of 5 common mods and 1 uncommon. One of commons coming from the boss. That just ain't right. Obviously none of them were warframe ability cards. If higher level enemies are tougher, that's fine with me, but the player must be rewarded properly for being able to handle that. Where do I go now if I reliably want warframe ability cards? because clearly Infested are no longer an option. Edited April 4, 2013 by Thirdstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggh Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Was leveling my newly crafted excalibur on eris. Didn't even notice lol :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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