TrashSpider Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 I clicked "yes", due to the fact that I always hear a bigot use Soma as the benchmark of Warframe weapons, annoy's the hell out of me. *Yea there are now better weapons that surpass the Soma, but yet it still used as a god dam benchmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag272 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 I personally never had any issues with Soma users, that said i have always seen it as a transitionary gun myself and the same applies to Rhino. There was a fairly long stage of the game where i used Rhino Soma because at the time it was my best gear and it was easily flexible to the rest of the game, used it to clear all the planets and Lephantis etc. Since then however i turned my focus to getting new frames and weapons and since then I havent touched either as i find many of the other guns simply more fun and in many cases better weapons, never felt like my Soma did much at higher level but perhaps thats because i never forma'd it. If people still wish to use Soma at higher level thats fine with me, i just see it as a transitionary gun myself as i find the thing horribly boring to use after the first few hours of "wow look how high i hit". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seren77 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Depends, bringing that 4 forma Soma to a Mercury alert is pretty lame. T3 stuff im ok with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acos Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) Kind of. The problem isn't that the Soma is secretly a bad gun; it's always been pretty good and one of the upper tier weapons. The problem with the Soma is that because it was THE GUN it meant every single person who ever asked the simple question "what is best gun in life?" flocked too it, without understanding how it works, or appreciating how any of the combat worked up until the Soma. It would be as if a low level noob suddenly jumped to level 80 and then hung around Venus. Every time I saw NOVA SOMA ACRID GALATINE join a session I cringed a little because I knew exactly what kind of player I was going to be dealing with. Edited May 9, 2014 by Acos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloan441 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 It's still one of the best weapons in the game. If you choose not to use it when you hit mastery 6, you're only hurting yourself and your performance and progression will suffer thereby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble_Cactus Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) I always thought scorning certain weapons/characters in a pve game was rather silly, especially in one where you'd be glad to have someone with a good weapon on your team when enemies become mindless bullet sponges. The only times I've ever felt any sort of bile in my throat are when some guy rushes Invasions while barely killing anything on his mad dash to the exit. But I can't blame them entirely; it's easy to get sucked into The Zone and autopilot your way through missions. I catch myself doing it occasionally. I prefer the Synapse anyway. Zap zap. - Anyway, to answer the OP, I haven't seen anyone whine about the Soma for a while. Edited May 9, 2014 by Noble_Cactus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaDas Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 People who look down on Soma users are just unreasonable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurhetemec Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 How to max scrub in Warframe, see example. Pffft, Dragon Nikana not Dual Ichors? Not trying hard enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble_Cactus Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Pffft, Dragon Nikana not Dual Ichors? Not trying hard enough. Ichors aren't "edgy" enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfectStranger Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) Soma isn't the highest dps weapon in game, but it adds variety. Boltor P has higher dps, but has travel speed. Synapse has limited range. Amprex is good for clustered crowd of enemies. Phage needs to focus the beam. So you see nothing need nerf.Nerfs in general, but unneeded nerfs especially, are gonna make a game boring: try imagine a game where all you can equip is just a Braton/Strun/Lato/Skana but with different skin. There you'd get what you ask.If a change is needed is to swap Supra and Soma Affinity Rank requirements, and maybe move soma into dojo Tenno's crafted weapons. Edited May 9, 2014 by perfectStranger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlander Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 HAHAHA! I considered the SOMA to be DOA the moment they nerfed it after their initial release. I mean, it's proc rate is nice and all, but it's a darn weak weapon, especially when you consider all the other options you have. I didn't look down upon Soma users before, in fact, I felt sorry for em back then. Especially those that used formas on the soma right off the bat. But when I see people using the Soma nowadays, I laugh, in the most condescending, derisive way possible. I mean, get with the program people. Using the soma is like using an old analog computer monitor, and running Windows 95 on your PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Pengu_Imperialus Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Soma isn't the highest dps weapon in game, but it adds variety. Boltor P has higher dps, but has travel speed. Synapse has limited range. Amprex is good for clustered crowd of enemies. Phage needs to focus the beam. So you see nothing need nerf. Nerfs in general, but unneeded nerfs especially, are gonna make a game boring: try imagine a game where all you can equip is just a Braton/Strun/Lato/Skana but with different skin. There you'd get what you ask. If a change is needed is to swap Supra and Soma Affinity Rank requirements, and maybe move soma into dojo Tenno's crafted weapons. I just think our damage has out stripped all the enemies abilities. The game was way funner when I was running for my life lol. And no a smarter AI won't fix that. It may help but things don't live long enough to execute simple strategies let alone complex ones.Honestly if we were grineer we would put 20 arc traps around every ventilation grate in the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehenge17 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 400 damage per bullet...or hell, even 800...not good? thats all? My boltor prime does 1200-1600...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temperance000 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) 400 damage per bullet...or hell, even 800...not good? Only with a proper crit. build. HAHAHA! I considered the SOMA to be DOA the moment they nerfed it after their initial release. I mean, it's proc rate is nice and all, but it's a darn weak weapon, especially when you consider all the other options you have. I didn't look down upon Soma users before, in fact, I felt sorry for em back then. Especially those that used formas on the soma right off the bat. But when I see people using the Soma nowadays, I laugh, in the most condescending, derisive way possible. I mean, get with the program people. Using the soma is like using an old analog computer monitor, and running Windows 95 on your PC. And yet, it still works very, very well. I agree with an earlier poster: play the game how you want, and don't look down on others for playing it differently. Edited May 9, 2014 by Temperance000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clone3216k Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Yes, they're probably the same people who look down on Nova and other op warframe users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) I clicked "yes", due to the fact that I always hear a bigot use Soma as the benchmark of Warframe weapons, annoy's the hell out of me. *Yea there are now better weapons that surpass the Soma, but yet it still used as a god dam benchmark. IMO Because it needs only 3 to 4 forma for maximum potential. Other guns need 5 to even 6 forma to be even comparable. The only other gun that has the luxury of needing only 4 forma is the Latron Prime. And it is a harder gun to use since every missed shot means a huge amount of damage gone, plus the TTK isn't efficient since a ton of thrash mobs don't require 5 digit damage to put down. And that is what the Latron Prime delivers in spades. At lower levels, 1 bullet from the Soma is enough to one shot most trash. Edited May 9, 2014 by fatpig84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hupf4 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Soma looks so badass, i just love it not just because of its dmg (17million xp speak for itself ^^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)PillarOfWar Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 I never understand people raging on something being OP ... Nothing is OP if you last last long enough in survival to test the very limits of it. What do they really hate? Someone else getting the kills first? I like the soma. I'm I off topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezren Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 HAHAHA! I considered the SOMA to be DOA the moment they nerfed it after their initial release. I mean, it's proc rate is nice and all, but it's a darn weak weapon, especially when you consider all the other options you have. I didn't look down upon Soma users before, in fact, I felt sorry for em back then. Especially those that used formas on the soma right off the bat. But when I see people using the Soma nowadays, I laugh, in the most condescending, derisive way possible. I mean, get with the program people. Using the soma is like using an old analog computer monitor, and running Windows 95 on your PC. And on your left, somebody who does not know how to mod Soma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble_Cactus Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 IMO Because it needs only 3 to 4 forma for maximum potential. Other guns need 5 to even 6 forma to be even comparable. The only other gun that has the luxury of needing only 4 forma is the Latron Prime. And it is a harder gun to use since every missed shot means a huge amount of damage gone, plus the TTK isn't efficient since a ton of thrash mobs don't require 5 digit damage to put down. And that is what the Latron Prime delivers in spades. At lower levels, 1 bullet from the Soma is enough to one shot most trash. Bows have the luxury of only needing three Forma to reach their max potential. Though that is likely subject to personal preference, because adding a third 11 point element mod requires 4 Forma iirc. That, and bows fall into the "overkill at low levels" category with the Latron Prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnimaruX Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Do you guys realize what it takes for the soma to be good, for one it needs to be potatoed, second a few forma, and third you will need certain mods that of course need to be maxed like serration which maxing is oh god painful. All the weapon you people complain about being OP need a lot of work(and money) put into them t make them that powerful in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syle Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 some was never bad IT WAS THE SOUND!! the horror of listening to this gun over and over and over it sounds like a fricking ww1 weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FierceRadiance Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Don't nerf the Soma ~ give us high-Mastery user levels where a death-hose like Soma is really needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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