Tatsukko Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 I Have been using frost lately and I have noticed he has been nerfd so bad (have not used him in a long time). I dont mind the snow globe not being immortal BUT his armor rating is so low that even with steel fiber its still not strong enough for high level defense. I think (personally) he should be given a armor buff maybe 250armor its not to high not to low but just enough for him to be a viable frame for high levels. I loved avalanche not for its damage but stopping enemies in a tight situation but its nearly useless unless your vsing corpus, I mean if rhino and other frames can do similar why cant frost he freezes stuff. Please do not take any of this out of context I just want a frost that I can go to and use in high levels. Thanks for reading tell me what you think in the comment below :)
Quasar-Sandwich Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 (edited) Just because you can't solo him on every single mission type or that he doesn't have a game breaking op fourth power doesn't mean he needs a buff. He may be specialized to a single game type, but what he's good at, he's really good at. Edit: also just because his armor is kinda low, even though its one of the highest in warframe, what does it matter? At one point armor becomes pointless to even have. when your fighting level 40+ enemies, you die the instant your shield is gone, whether or not your armor is in the 2 figures or the 4 figures. Edited May 12, 2014 by Quasar-Sandwich
killacam8806 Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Yeah Frost and (some of the older frames) needs some love but since the vast majority dont think so he will continue to be in the limbo he is in :/
Ionus Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 250 armor is the highest base armor in the game. Know who has it? Valkyr. She has the highest armor rating in the game because she's a health tank. She NEEDS that insane armor in order to not just fall over dead. Putting that on Frost would be ridiculous.
Tatsukko Posted May 12, 2014 Author Posted May 12, 2014 Just because you can't solo him on every single mission type or that he doesn't have a game breaking op fourth power doesn't mean he needs a buff. He may be specialized to a single game type, but what he's good at, he's really good at. Hes not good at anything at this time....
Tatsukko Posted May 12, 2014 Author Posted May 12, 2014 250 armor is the highest base armor in the game. Know who has it? Valkyr. She has the highest armor rating in the game because she's a health tank. She NEEDS that insane armor in order to not just fall over dead. Putting that on Frost would be ridiculous. valkyr has 600.....
PsychedelicSnake Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Hes not good at anything at this time.... Wat.
Ionus Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 valkyr has 600..... Did they change that? I remember her having 250 base...
Tatsukko Posted May 12, 2014 Author Posted May 12, 2014 Wat. I have been running defense for 2days and now hes not that good
PsychedelicSnake Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 I have been running defense for 2days and now hes not that good So you meant "not as good as he can be" instead of "not good at anything". He's good at things, but he can be better.
IIBladeII Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 My Frost needs no buff and I don't die. If I could get past the strict natt and stop all the crash's I would be king!
Tatsukko Posted May 12, 2014 Author Posted May 12, 2014 So you meant "not as good as he can be" instead of "not good at anything". He's good at things, but he can be better. If you count slowing things down a little bit then maybe
Iraetus Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Just because you can't solo him on every single mission type or that he doesn't have a game breaking op fourth power doesn't mean he needs a buff. He may be specialized to a single game type, but what he's good at, he's really good at. Edit: also just because his armor is kinda low, even though its one of the highest in warframe, what does it matter? At one point armor becomes pointless to even have. when your fighting level 40+ enemies, you die the instant your shield is gone, whether or not your armor is in the 2 figures or the 4 figures. Eh, I don't think you get the point of most Frost users. His element is ice. What do ice users do? Thats right... Freeze and slow. We don't want another nuke 4. We want something that slows or freezes enemy down. We don't care about its damage buff. We want the slow CC back. Even Rhino does a better job. Even Hydroid makes a better job.
PsychedelicSnake Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Eh, I don't think you get the point of most Frost users. His element is ice. What do ice users do? Thats right... Freeze and slow. We don't want another nuke 4. We want something that slows or freezes enemy down. We don't care about its damage buff. We want the slow CC back. Even Rhino does a better job. Even Hydroid makes a better job. I remember that accidental bug where Frost's Avalanche stopped enemies for a good 3-5 seconds before taking damage. I miss that.
residente Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 His skills are pretty boring, but I don't think he needs a buff. Maybe some skill rework... but not gonna happen.
PsychedelicSnake Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 His skills are pretty boring, but I don't think he needs a buff. Maybe some skill rework... but not gonna happen. I'd appreciate if his 1st ability had at least a small AOE at the point of impact.
Arxiun Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Funny, how even though he doesn't need a nerf because of how "good" he is at defense, that people do a lot better with booben and Nova, and that some actually close lobbies for defense when they see a frost (personal experience) With no moevment abilities, low sprint, a super nerfed kit that lost its secondary abilities for paltry damage, he needs a bit of love. Nerfhammer hit him to hard, and if he isn't getting buffed, then others need a good whacking too. He wasn't OP before the nerf, he isn't now, and he is considered useless due to this. I love him, from his looks to his kit, but god he needs a buff.
egregiousRac Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 (edited) I remember that accidental bug where Frost's Avalanche stopped enemies for a good 3-5 seconds before taking damage. I miss that. The sad part is that, even with that bug, Avalanche was worse than Stomp in every way. The only thing it had over Stomp was looking AWESOME. Edited May 12, 2014 by egregiousRac
PsychedelicSnake Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 The sad part is that, even with that, Avalanche is worse than Stomp in every way. That's alright. It served a different purpose when that bug was in effect anyway.
egregiousRac Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 That's alright. It served a different purpose when that bug was in effect anyway. How did it serve a different purpose? Stomp is better CC in a way larger area. Stomp is huge and lasts for a very long time (8 seconds). Even with the bug Avalanche only lasted 5 seconds and has 60% of the range. I loved the bug, but I was shocked when it was fixed because even with it Avalanche was worse in every way.
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