Yaerion Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) I had this idea yesterday: An option -disabled by default- which, when activated from the starchart, would make the player vulnerable to friendly fire (only weapons, not the powers) in mission. This hardcore gameplay option could not be disabled while in a match. And it would be offset by a significant increase of the affinity progression in a mission. A penalty would be applied to other players who shoot at a vulnerable player. What do you think? Will this benefit to Warframe? What could be the affinity modifier? The penalty? Edited May 13, 2014 by Yaer
Vargras Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 An option -disabled by default- which, when activated from the starchart, would make the player vulnerable to friendly fire in mission. A penalty would be applied to other players who shoot at a vulnerable player. Cue trolling.
Somedude1000 Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 Ooh this would be so lolzy :3 Make sure you dont play with PUGs tho sometimes people may accidentally shoot ya without knowing it was dem who did da shootin :3 Godspeed :D
BoredWraith Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) Friendly fire in a game where u cant see s... because of effects all over the screen and tons of spells and guns with splashdamage... äh no thanks. Make the game challenging and fun again? Just dont use damage mods, no damage on senti, focus on melee and blocking > fun restored to some degree. (and dont use nova!!!) I wish DE would focus balance more on the spells and their utility and maybe add some cooldown to ultis or make ults cost more mana to force players to work together and finally have a real coop experience (i can dream right?) Edited May 13, 2014 by eGoxxl
Mastikator2 Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 Would make ults useless. "Rhino Stomp ops allies died". The whole game design is predicated on the lack of friendly fire.
Vasylene Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 Friendly fire would open huge can of worms when vast majority of abilities are AoE, never mind using cell mates as aiming point for Penta. How about Hardcore mode as in Diablo and some other games? As you build your frame you could set is as Hardcore. You die wearing Hardcore frame; the frame you were using is done, build new one and try not to die again. Should get some sort of bonus to rewards the additional risk but could be fun too... Something to use all those extra frame bits instead of selling them off. -Val
Yaerion Posted May 13, 2014 Author Posted May 13, 2014 -sip- vulnerable to friendly fire (only weapons, not the powers) -sip-
neKroMancer Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 Then it's no longer PvE hadrcore mode, but a way to troll others with PvPish gameplay. I expect hardcore mode for PvE to be something else, no thanks.
Mastikator2 Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 There's already a hardcore mode, it's called "No Shields, No Energy Nightmare" and it's hated and feared by advanced and newbs alike.
Wolfstorm18 Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) Just add more nodes, this is very simple. More nodes on Earth and Jupiter, with high level missions, like already happens in Phobos. Edited May 13, 2014 by Wolfstorm18
Gelkor Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 There's already a hardcore mode, it's called "No Shields, No Energy Nightmare" and it's hated and feared by advanced and newbs alike. I seem to recall No Shields Vampire being the worst, or did they change that to not happen in conjunction anymore?
fatpig84 Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 There's already a hardcore mode, it's called "No Shields, No Energy Nightmare" and it's hated and feared by advanced and newbs alike. You can ,no longer get no shields and no energy together.
Gelkor Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 You can ,no longer get no shields and no energy together. Ah, I see, I've still had a bunch no shields + energy drain recently, however, but that's not as bad as long as you get good energy pickups and/or use a team energy restore in a pinch.
Xzorn Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 Friendly Fire is for competitive shooters, this is a farming shooter. It just wouldn't work. There's a ton of situations working against the idea, Trolls, Melee, Frame Abilities, etc. Not to mention Affinity? They'd have to offer some seriously better rewards than meaningless exp. As is I find it annoying enough that idiots can body block my fire. Without some type of actual reward it's no better than D3 Hardcore, omg you die once and it's over; so everyone runs Terminus forever. I think they intended for nightmare missions to be more "Advanced" but it turned into spam running capture missions. I think they will revamp this myself. Possibly adding those event mods everyone overpays for. Time will tell though.
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