Why Is Nova So Sacred?

[SanityRobot]

So many nerfs to other overpowered frames, but Nova remains untouched.

[EVAtemplar117]

she's being looked at

[Brynslustafir]

All hail the neon death god.

[immolator1001]

DE is looking at nova.

If you mean why does the community hold it as so sacred, it's because it was designed by the community.

[Shinobi-kun]

People argue about balance, nerf to all Tenno and buffs to the Grineer Empire. Still wants Nova. 

[Synville]

she's being looked at

Mhhhhhhhhm. By millions. Daily. ó-ó

Anyways, why again with the asks for nerfs? Can't you have the same fun? Are you sour because your Trinity just got slightly nerfed? 

Or are you just oh so jealous because you don't have one?

Please for the love of god. Stop this stupid madness.

[SanityRobot]

Mhhhhhhhhm. By millions. Daily. ó-ó

Anyways, why again with the asks for nerfs? Can't you have the same fun? Are you sour because your Trinity just got slightly nerfed? 

Or are you just oh so jealous because you don't have one?

Please for the love of god. Stop this stupid madness.

 

Defensive much?

 

I haven't played for months. It's pointless when 95% of the content is rendered moot by a single frame, and the remaining 5% has it's difficult quartered.

 

And the nerfs are needed because the content in the game is ridiculously easy. It's more time efficient to make an ability to slightly less damage than it is to entirely rework the entire game to achieve the same effect.

 

Plus they already tried the "reworking the entire game" route, and it failed. Time to just boil it down to what's been broken all along.

Edited May 16, 2014 by SanityRobot

[AuroraSonicBoom]

You think that's bad? They even buffed Rhino's most imbalanced stat in his Prime version.

 

As for why? Because of the same reason any MMO dev have biases towards certain classes over others: Because the devs in charge of balance main an OP class or the class is so popular that the devs would rather deal with the complaints about not nerfing it than the complaints of them doing it.

[Leorion]

Mhhhhhhhhm. By millions. Daily. ó-ó

Anyways, why again with the asks for nerfs? Can't you have the same fun? Are you sour because your Trinity just got slightly nerfed? 

Or are you just oh so jealous because you don't have one?

Please for the love of god. Stop this stupid madness.

 

That should have applied to even Trinity. I hate nerfs, period. The only reason there is no balance is because we had some great frames and then we have absolutely useless frames. If those useless frames were buffed, people would opt for them. Even though Trinity was super powerful, the way to get her to that kind of power required SO MUCH EFFORT. Millions of credits into upgrading mods, tens upon tens of hours grinding for the mods, real money / plat to get them!

 

Effort was required to make her the strength that she was, that's why it wasn't over-used, yet here she is, nerfed. Because dying constantly in stupidly hard missions is FUN! 

[SanityRobot]

You think that's bad? They even buffed Rhino's most imbalanced stat in his Prime version.

 

As for why?

 

The why is because DE lacks integrity.

 

It's easier to just keep adding more and more overpowered stuff to make people happy. No negative feelings happy happy joy joy.

 

Except power creep becomes incredibly boring without content that scales exponentially with it.

[Leorion]

Defensive much?

 

I haven't played for months. It's pointless when 95% of the content is rendered moot by a single frame, and the remaining 5% has it's difficult quartered.

 

And the nerfs are needed because the content in the game is ridiculously easy. It's more time efficient to make an ability to slightly less damage than it is to entirely rework the entire game to achieve the same effect.

 

Plus they already tried the "reworking the entire game" route, and it failed. Time to just boil it down to what's been broken all along.

 

ENTIRE Game is too easy? Excuse me? Have you ever actually stayed past minute 20 or wave 20?! Have you ever done a T3 defence?! 

[SanityRobot]

ENTIRE Game is too easy? Excuse me? Have you ever actually stayed past minute 20 or wave 20?! Have you ever done a T3 defence?! 

 

Infinitely scaling content doesn't count as content.

 

I could say that Nova is underpowered and should do 1000 times more damage because after 5 days of survival stuff is tough to kill.

 

And then it's still too weak because after a month long survival, it's still really hard to kill stuff.

Edited May 16, 2014 by SanityRobot

[5tarlight]

Everyone needs to just chill and stop arguing over balance.

DE will keep balancing stuff do it doesn't matter.

~As for Nova, they could be reworking something.

They'll get her.

Soon I'd like to think.

[Synville]

Defensive much?

 

I haven't played for months. It's pointless when 95% of the content is rendered moot by a single frame, and the remaining 5% has it's difficult quartered.

 

And the nerfs are needed because the content in the game is ridiculously easy. It's more time efficient to make an ability to slightly less damage than it is to entirely rework the entire game to achieve the same effect.

 

Plus they already tried the "reworking the entire game" route, and it failed. Time to just boil it down to what's been broken all along.

EDIT: Deleted because this is %"$%ing tragic.

 

I quit.

Edited May 16, 2014 by Synville

[Tali]

I want mp to die~

[Leorion]

Infinitely scaling content doesn't count as content.

 

I could say that Nova is underpowered and should do 1000 times more damage because after 5 days of survival stuff is tough to kill.

 

And then it's still too weak because after a month long survival, it's still really hard to kill stuff.

 

Well, it does for DE. That's actually all there is to Warframe content. A Nova is pretty much useless after the 30 mark in T2+ and because of her weak armor and shield, she goes down INSTANTLY. Alone, you can't do anything with her.

[immolator1001]

That should have applied to even Trinity. I hate nerfs, period. The only reason there is no balance is because we had some great frames and then we have absolutely useless frames. If those useless frames were buffed, people would opt for them. Even though Trinity was super powerful, the way to get her to that kind of power required SO MUCH EFFORT. Millions of credits into upgrading mods, tens upon tens of hours grinding for the mods, real money / plat to get them!

 

Effort was required to make her the strength that she was, that's why it wasn't over-used, yet here she is, nerfed. Because dying constantly in stupidly hard missions is FUN!

Do you know how long it took me to get the stuff for trinity? Half an hour for the parts. Everything else are common mods most people have and the fact that you could 100% of the time have an infinite blessing trinity is survival means it was over used.

And it's not like buffing enemies would help, she was invincible, you can't buff enough to fight that.

Even now you can build so that only .24% of damage gets through so it would need a bullet doing 400+ damage to even hurt you.

Don't complain now that trinity takes some modicum of skill to be invincible.

[SanityRobot]

Well, it does for DE. That's actually all there is to Warframe content. A Nova is pretty much useless after the 30 mark in T2+ and because of her weak armor and shield, she goes down INSTANTLY. Alone, you can't do anything with her.

 

After any mark, Nova still effectively doubles the damage of the entire team, as well was the intangible benefit of the slow.

[Leorion]

Do you know how long it took me to get the stuff for trinity? Half an hour for the parts. Everything else are common mods most people have and the fact that you could 100% of the time have an infinite blessing trinity is survival means it was over used.

And it's not like buffing enemies would help, she was invincible, you can't buff enough to fight that.

Even now you can build so that only .24% of damage gets through so it would need a bullet doing 400+ damage to even hurt you.

Don't complain now that trinity takes some modicum of skill to be invincible.

 

The fact that you see the rare mods used to extend the life of Blessing as "common mods" is enough for me to dismiss your argument. 

[SanityRobot]

Since this is quickly turning into a Trinity whine thread...she was way overpowered. A different kind of overpowered, sure, but way overpowered. The nerf went too far outside of gimmicky setups. Reactionary healing has no place in Warframe.

 

Now, can we get back to the topic?

[immolator1001]

The fact that you see the rare mods used to extend the life of Blessing as "common mods" is enough for me to dismiss your argument.

HHHHHHAAAAHAHAAAHAAA

Go look at trading, all you needed were narrow minded and fleeting expertise. You could get those for 20 plat.

Not to mention you could just run some OD vaults, since you are guaranteed a corrupted mod.

It's not like they are going for 100 plat, they are common and by the time people have weapons to deal with T3 survival they will have those mods or the ability to obtain them with a couple trades.

Actually try to beat my argument instead of saying "nope gunna ignore it."

[Daturawar]

Nova is not sacred, but she's famous. Another thread for cry on her <3

[Anatolius]

Probably sacred because mp of how it works

It can kill things that are unmarked

It slows them down

It debuffing them

It chains

It has a lot of effects in one bundle. It makes harder fight possible if you had a Trinity. .. back when thst was a thing.

Because endless defense is end game to some people. Simply knowing you can go hours is an accomplishment to others.

She is easy to level makes your op weapon even stronger and.

She is a cutie lolita don't you wanna hug her?

So it's been on the fence for a while because the community is split between people who feel she is op and people who feel she is perfect and that more frames should be brought up to her status

This is all my opinion

[PsychedelicSnake]

The more sacred it is, the more fun it is to defile.

 

-evil grin-

[SanityRobot]

So it's been on the fence for a while because the community is split between people who feel she is op and people who feel she is perfect and that more frames should be brought up to her status

 

These achieve the same exact effect.

 

The only thing that changes, is the relative difficulty of the content. Making all frames as strong as the strongest one makes all of the content that much easier. The content is already way too easy.

 

Changing all of the frames instead of one is also considerably more work.

Edited May 16, 2014 by SanityRobot