OniDax Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Sorry, kaboomonme, I disagree with you slightly. Yes, the Corpus should rely on proxies, but when they've got a boss named Sergeant Nef Anyo, I don't think your argument holds up. Anyo isn't a SGT over a bunch of proxies. And when we've got the same Corpus model with different colors and a bunch of essentially reskinned MOAs and Ospreys, yes, I also want some different models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)PillarOfWar Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 The helmets popping off all the time is a little old. But not the biggest worry in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) Very interesting discussion! I'd like to add that corpus are known to use cybernetics and augmentation. Crewmen should take cover yes, but yhr military cyborgs would not be pushovers with proper armor and implants. More robot types are needed yes, but mostly strategy and ai that really set them apart. Also, my take on the Corpus is a trinity. Trade : for profit! Research and development: for progress! Clergy: For Truth! Goal of the Corpus is to find the secrets of the Orokin. They are searching for something with religious zeal. I believe the Trade side is what we see now. They need the other two to complete the picture. Workers, builders, scholars. Edited May 28, 2014 by arch111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Very interesting discussion! I'd like to add that corpus are known to use cybernetics and augmentation. Crewmen should take cover yes, but yhr military cyborgs would not be pushovers with proper armor and implants. More robot types are needed yes, but mostly strategy and ai that really set them apart. Also, my take on the Corpus is a trinity. Trade : for profit! Research and development: for progress! Clergy: For enlightenment! Goal of the Corpus is to find the secrets of the Orokin. They are searching for something with religious zeal. I believe the Trade side is what we see now. They need the other two to complete the picture. Workers, builders, scholars. I think it would be better if we can actually see either the process of indoctrination or indoctrinators, not the clergies. Place it on Neptune and make the place start to feel actually like a Corpus home-world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Actually to me Void Research and Indoctrination are all done by the Clergy. They are very religious in speech and names therefor it makes perfect sense that the Priests, Inquisitors, Templars or what ever you call them, are active and high ranking Corpus units. But sure, we need to visit the Temples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartumterek Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Corpus are civilians... look at their names, they got what, like 2 mobs that even sound soldier like? You got dudes in labcoats and pencil holders with clipboards versus... mutated space ninjas. The only thing they got that's any good is their tech, aka Moas and ospreys. They are not an ingrained warrior culture like the grineer. Is it any surprise their regular mobs are crap? They need to focus on robots of death, because their flesh is weaksauce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow-Blades Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 I honestly never liked the helmet on the crewmen and aesthetically its the only gripe I have for warframe (except for infested diversity). If they could make it slightly less boxy while preserving its iconic look I would be more than satisfied! Also maybe adding a more specialized soldier/security team Corpus, like what AntoineFlemming submitted for the contest earlier. : And of course, more crazy proxies! That looks a heck of a lot like Booben with a box helmet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akuarius Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) CORPUS' VOICES ARE JUST HORRIBLEEEEEEEEEEEE. Edited May 28, 2014 by Akuarius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Actually to me Void Research and Indoctrination are all done by the Clergy. Indoctrination, yes. But leave the Void Research to the actual Scientists (Because to me, clergies and technology = disaster). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGear Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 The rather deplorable Alad V and Zanuka duo is actually the perfect example of how the Corpus should fight in my opinion: the human operator/owner stays back to support the proxy, while the latter does all the actual killing. I agree with the sentiments on this thread that Crewmen should not be the main fighting force that we see for the Corpus. They should be present yes, but they should not be the bulk of what you face in battle, instead seeing more MOAs and other proxies facing Tenno. I'm also of the opinion that Crewmen really should be poorly armed: Prod Crewmen are actually a good example of such, being armed only at the bare minimum for personal security or other tasks (like killing Phorid). The basic Crewman should be armed only with Spectras or such, which are supposed to be tools in lore, and therefore more likely to be in the hands of said Crewmen when the fighting breaks out. Of course, having all Proxies all the time is going to make for boring gameplay, hence there should still be at least human enemies that are well equipped with actual combat weaponry and armor. These should look different from Crewmen though, and should at least look like actual soldiers being sent out into battle, instead of being boxhead astronauts with guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 That looks a heck of a lot like Booben with a box helmet That's the point. Corpus produce their own Booben essentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Hooligonzo Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) There are two things I don't like about the Corpus: 1) The Darkevil Deathevil Alien Darklord Growl voices they have now. 2) Lack of troop visual variety. They need some more helmet shapes, maybe stuff attached to the helmet, obvious tool belts and stuff, and more uniforms. There are currently way too many palette-swap uniforms, and they all wear the same uniforms for every area they occupy. Outside of that, some non-Moa line ground robots would be nice. And some Moa units that, like, combine? Like one interlocks with the other and then it has arms and guns and a different movement set? That'd be neat. Edited May 28, 2014 by (PS4)Hooligantuan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlander Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 I dunno...I've always liked the corpus more than the grineer. I think the corpus represent a more accurate depiction of what warfare would look like thousands of years in the future, while the grineer are an oddly backward race, using weapons that, for the most part, are vastly inferior to the corpus' arsenal. (Though quite on par with what we humans have now, irl.) Plus, the corpus tend to be easier at low levels, but at the high levels...they're much tougher than the grineer. Ever run into a wall of lvl 50 corpus techs? Takes em about 3 seconds to down even a rhino. Pew pew pew FTW. The corpus appearance is also good the way it is, because, remember, the corpus are merchants. Greedy merchants. They are not a hyper-militarized race bent on world domination. That role is already taken. To make the corpus more like soldiers would essentially turn them into grineer, minus the rotting flesh. The only problem the corpus truly have is that they only have 2 types of robots. I mean, the corpus probably have their robots feed them, bathe them, and tuck them in at night, so only ever seeing 2 types of robots is strange. The corpus just need more of what makes them...corpus-ey. Not less! More! MORE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSpax Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) The Corpus need more female representation, there can't be only men. Grineer have females too! *cough* Equilibrium A men is nothing without an even better woman behind. Corpus need their vox back for their tilesets, it sounded sweet "Lockdown authorized" Why had it to be gone, if they are capable of speaking fluent english??? Edited May 29, 2014 by Sypheal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 The Corpus need more female representation, there can't be only men. Grineer have females too! *cough* Equilibrium A men is nothing without an even better woman behind. Corpus need their vox back for their tilesets, it sounded sweet "Lockdown authorized" Why had it to be gone, if they are capable of speaking fluent english??? Feminism 101, people. How about we not make sexist comments from either point of view, okay? Anyway, DE should just change some of the existing Corpus units to female. Maybe the Detron crewman and the flux rifle one as well. Maybe the Wardens too as well as some of the Eximus ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSpax Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) Some men weren't famous without their woman telling them to never give up. Pretty normal to me. :D Anyway, DE should just change some of the existing Corpus units to female. Maybe the Detron crewman and the flux rifle one as well. Maybe the Wardens too as well as some of the Eximus ones. Nah a new one :3 Edited May 29, 2014 by Sypheal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaboomonme Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Feminism 101, people. How about we not make sexist comments from either point of view, okay? Anyway, DE should just change some of the existing Corpus units to female. Maybe the Detron crewman and the flux rifle one as well. Maybe the Wardens too as well as some of the Eximus ones. I don't know though. Personally I feel having the Corpus portrayed as a "male superiority" race might be interesting and add flavor to them, though that part is largely unexplained by DE so far. The Grineer are ruled by what we assume to be two Queens, showing the authority of females within their society. I think having the Corpus being portrayed differently would be interesting. Like their birthrates being tampered with to produce only males, or they only create male clones due to them viewing females as being inferior etc. No offense to any actual females that may be reading this, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Some men weren't famous without their woman telling them to never give up. Pretty normal to me. :D Nah a new one :3 Some. And, just like some women, some men didn't need anyone to tell them to "never give up" because there are people, men and women, who are ambitious. If people have a problem saying "A woman is nothing without an even stronger man behind her" then they should also have a problem saying "A man is nothing without an even stronger woman behind him". Sexist comments cut both ways. And yes, they are equally offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Some. And, just like some women, some men didn't need anyone to tell them to "never give up" because there are people, men and women, who are ambitious. If people have a problem saying "A woman is nothing without an even stronger man behind her" then they should also have a problem saying "A man is nothing without an even stronger woman behind him". Sexist comments cut both ways. And yes, they are equally offensive. Thing is that women bring different view on some issues and can be of help. So it is not far fetched to say that successful men have women behind them. If nothing, different ideas and views can help you achieve great things. But some people ( man or woman, doesnt matter ) can achieve same things without any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Thing is that women bring different view on some issues and can be of help. So it is not far fetched to say that successful men have women behind them. If nothing, different ideas and views can help you achieve great things. But some people ( man or woman, doesnt matter ) can achieve same things without any help. Successful people are behind other successful people. The "far-fetched" statement is simply a generalization that isn't always true. And that statement is a poor reason for the Corpus having females. It is hallmark of feminism, and it is just as sexist and wrong as saying that men are always better/stronger/smarter than women. If the forum finds issue every time some "bigot" trashes homosexuals or makes misogynist statements then the forum should find issue every time someone trashes religious individuals or makes misandrist statements as well. Again, the statement is offensive because it generalizes men, and that same reaction can be expected if someone made a similar generalization of women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Successful people are behind other successful people. The "far-fetched" statement is simply a generalization that isn't always true. And that statement is a poor reason for the Corpus having females. It is hallmark of feminism, and it is just as sexist and wrong as saying that men are always better/stronger/smarter than women. If the forum finds issue every time some "bigot" trashes homosexuals or makes misogynist statements then the forum should find issue every time someone trashes religious individuals or makes misandrist statements as well. Again, the statement is offensive because it generalizes men, and that same reaction can be expected if someone made a similar generalization of women. There is a thin line between being sexist and not being one. It is all in the point of view, some people will see sexism in everything while other will laugh it off. It is not sexist to say that men need women, and vice versa. NEED can be quite powerful word, and people might think about that word in a good or a bad way. Again, depends on point of view. If you look at NEED as mutual helping, understanding and compassion, it is not sexist in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ionus Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) Needs more John Prodman. Edited May 29, 2014 by Ionus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somedude1000 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Hue, hence crewman, and not soldier :3 Most of the crewmen are just there to oversee equipment i suppose, and in this case, they are moa / drones etc, so i dotn think crewmen were meant lorewise to be combatants Godspeed :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Hue, hence crewman, and not soldier :3 Most of the crewmen are just there to oversee equipment i suppose, and in this case, they are moa / drones etc, so i dotn think crewmen were meant lorewise to be combatants Godspeed :D But one of those Crewmen is named Sergeant Nef Anyo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tengu-musume Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Anyo should be the only one wearing the box helmet imo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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