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Enemies Of The Tenno: Corpus Submission Winner And Interview

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Congratulations Volkovyi.

 

Honestly the heavy metal shields on the moa look a bit out of place as opposed to heavy energy based ones (serving the same porpose) the corpus would use rather than slabs of metal.  Though I have faith in the art team to make the final model fitting to corpus and lookibng great in the process, even if they decide to deviate from the Moa proxy to some other proxy more fitting for the heavier unit concept.

 

I do find it interesting that a lot of comments refer to it being very 'metal gear' as unfitting, given DE have themselves have mentioned metal gear as one of the inspirational games for Warframe's style.

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Volkovyi

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Perhaps if I might make a friendly reminder to the purpose behind the Riot Moa, as many users seem upset about it's shields.

The Riot Moa's purpose is simply to physically hold back and contain Tenno, to keep them from infiltrating further into their ships then necessary. You can not pass through slabs of metal, but you can pass through laser shields. You can pass through Frost's snow globe,  you can pass through Volt's shield, you can pass through Ice Eximus that also have a snow globe. Those shields, and any electric shields, only protect the user from bullets and projectiles.

 

The Riot Moa's shield does not protect it as much from projectiles, as it does make it just a wall. If it deployed electric shields its purpose would be defeated.

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I for one, am looking forward to this concept the most out of all of them. I think the purpose is unique and the weaponry is starting from a well-balanced perspective, with it having to sacrifice mobility for greater firepower.

 

As far as the aesthetic, I agree with some of the posters that it misses the mark slightly as far as "fitting in" with the Corpus. It might have benefited from some sleeker angles and more curved, organic armor. However the flip side of that is that this unit will be very, very easy to spot, even in heated battles. Which is a good thing. I'd also argue that since it's supposed to "become a wall," it does actually fit the aesthetic of the Corpus quite well- the aesthetic of their ships. Give it a light blue tint and you're set.

 

I do have a question for the artist, though. You said,

 

The Riot Moa's shield does not protect it as much from projectiles, as it does make it just a wall. If it deployed electric shields its purpose would be defeated.

 

So do you envision the Riot Moa not actually gaining much of a defensive advantage when it's bunkered down? It looks to me like an enemy that Tenno would have to flank in order to actually do much damage.

 

Anyway, I love this design and I can't wait to fight it. Great work, Volkovyi.

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Personally, I still feel as though the Riot Moa's design is TOO mech and not enough Corpus. It lacks the kind of rounded, kinda organic feel the rest of the Corpus proxies have. I also feel that the use of actual metal shields feels highly un-Corpus, whereas thicker impenetrable energy shields held out in front (lorewise: a massive, localized upgrade on the Jackal's shields, or a further development of original Hyena's Volt-based electric shield) would be more fitting than giant slabs of metal - they feel too Grineer to me.

 

Also a touch upset that it was just another Moa design that was victorious when there were a good number of new Proxy designs up for vote. The Moa's should not be the go-to design for the Corpus, merely ONE of a multitude of designs; also, I feel that the "it bunkers down to hold the Tenno back" idea contradicts with the Moa design, as it is (based on what we've see from them) build around mobility and speed, not heavy defense. Should have gone with a different animal idea for it, imo.

 

To be fair the Corpus Aircraft are mostly flying metal boxes (or "METAL BAWKSES!" as a Chaos Lord might say) and their architecture favors blockly rooms so I will say there is a precedent for blockiness in their designs. Also the idea of plating being used instead of shielding makes sense when they're intended to act as solid walls for intruders to crash upon. That being said however I did actually vote for more of the new proxy types (I really liked the concept of the Corpus Hive), and I think this concept could have easily been done as a new proxy type (maybe something tortoise like) rather than just another MOA.

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Volkovyi

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I for one, am looking forward to this concept the most out of all of them. I think the purpose is unique and the weaponry is starting from a well-balanced perspective, with it having to sacrifice mobility for greater firepower.

 

As far as the aesthetic, I agree with some of the posters that it misses the mark slightly as far as "fitting in" with the Corpus. It might have benefited from some sleeker angles and more curved, organic armor. However the flip side of that is that this unit will be very, very easy to spot, even in heated battles. Which is a good thing. I'd also argue that since it's supposed to "become a wall," it does actually fit the aesthetic of the Corpus quite well- the aesthetic of their ships. Give it a light blue tint and you're set.

 

I do have a question for the artist, though. You said,

 

 

 

 

So do you envision the Riot Moa not actually gaining much of a defensive advantage when it's bunkered down? It looks to me like an enemy that Tenno would have to flank in order to actually do much damage.

 

Anyway, I love this design and I can't wait to fight it. Great work, Volkovyi.

 

I am glad to hear a comment on the more positive and logical side of artistic discussion.

In answer to your question what I said prior, the Moa does gain defensive advantage while bunkered but that is not its main purpose. I wanted to only point out the reasoning behind its metal shields and not electric shields.

 

A sleek or curvy armored Moa would negate its purpose as a defensive unit aesthetically speaking, it is more of an exploration within Corpus aesthetic to make it more rigid.

 

Thank you for your commentary.

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Should have called it "Tortoise" do to the themes of animal names for corpus techs.

 

"Moa" Is already a kind of animal. It is extinct now but it was still an animal. It would be ridiculous to call the creation a 'Tortoise Moa.'

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"Moa" Is already a kind of animal. It is extinct now but it was still an animal. It would be ridiculous to call the creation a 'Tortoise Moa.'

I was thinking of "Tortoise" as an individual name instead of bonded to "MOA". So this way the naming would include different types of this enemy such as "Shock-wave Tortoise" or "Giga-Tortoise"

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Vaguely reminds me of those specialised soldiers some ant species have whose job is basically to block up a compromised passage with their flat armoured head...

 

What now with big gun on top, because Designed By People For People. :P

 

 

I'll give you that Corpus warbots tend to feature rather more curved plating, but it's not like engineers might not stray from that trend especially if the specifics of the internals and/or the armour setup called for it.

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I like it. I like the thought of mixing it up. It's not really a miniboss, but it kinda is because it takes different damage to kill more efficiently than the rest of the faction. But, I think it should still have energy shields for all the non-plated areas, maybe just less shields than the average unit. You could convince yourself it makes sense as they have more metal to cover with energy, less room for a battery (although future batteries should be very space-efficient), they thought the platting was good enough and took up enough production cost as it was, ect.

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I like it. I like the thought of mixing it up. It's not really a miniboss, but it kinda is because it takes different damage to kill more efficiently than the rest of the faction. But, I think it should still have energy shields for all the non-plated areas, maybe just less shields than the average unit. You could convince yourself it makes sense as they have more metal to cover with energy, less room for a battery (although future batteries should be very space-efficient), they thought the platting was good enough and took up enough production cost as it was, ect.

You are not the only one who deems it have energy shields than physical plating. While that detail might be more corpus like, it defeats the sole purpose of this unit.

I built the idea of the Riot Moa to physically hold back the Tenno, to create a physical blockade, to prevent advancement. However energy shields, like Volt's Shield for example, enemies and Tenno can pass through it. As you can see its counter efficient for this design. I have a feeling most other users are not reading the behavior or description of the Moa, and misunderstand its a boss unit.

 

Thank you for your comments nonetheless~

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