Dear (D.e) - Frustrating Issue - In Regard To Loki - Drones And Melee 2.0

[(PSN)RED_KNUCKLEHEAD]

I Love Melee 2.0 i think its Fantastic to run around With Just a Melee weapon and a passive sentinel and stealth attack enemies its very satisfying with pretty much all warframes Minus one in a Very specific Circumstance, Extermination, Playing As Loki Solo In T3 Extermination, Melee only with passive Carrier so Sweeper Blasts dont give away my Location I Learned That You Cannot Kill Drones therefore cannot complete the mission i spent fifteen minutes swinging my dragon nikana at the swarm of annoying drones which had surrounded me trying to swat them To no Avail. Loki Has fantastic Deception and defense abilities and would not want them changed for all the tea in China, However i feel perhaps a little tweaking in The Drones Ai would be more then satisfactory. if corpus support drones where buzzing around my head IRL and i had a katana i know for sure i could decimate Them, So why Not Loki The King of Katanas ?

 

Everything else in Game is Sweet, Keep up the Good Work Dev Team

 

Peace

 

 

Red_Knucklehead ps4 

[Not_Oliver]

ARGHHHHHHH MY BRAIN 

[Towermice]

Solution: Gun

[(PSN)jenax002]

Lesson learned - Equip atleast a primary/secondary when doing such missions so that you can still have fun with your melee and use the gun when required.

 

 

Edit: - i understand people wanting to go melee only but this might not be feasible for all cases. For example in today's devstream the vay hek's issue was brought up. people want to kill vay hek using melee only which looking at current state is not possible or extremely difficult. Just because someone doesn't want to bring a gun to the fight doesn't mean that the devs have to fix the game to meet his/her playstyle.

Edited June 6, 2014 by (PS4)jenax002

[(PSN)RED_KNUCKLEHEAD]

Was that all one sentence? By the way, no need to capitalize almost every word.

I am extremely sorry, i presumed this was a community forum for Warframe, not written english. go forgive me. lol

[(PSN)ElZilcho]

Solution: Gun

 

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[(PSN)RED_KNUCKLEHEAD]

Lesson learned - Equip atleast a primary/secondary when doing such missions so that you can still have fun with your melee and use the gun when required.

 

 

Edit: - i understand people wanting to go melee only but this might not be feasible for all cases. For example in today's devstream the vay hek's issue was brought up. people want to kill vay hek using melee only which looking at current state is not possible or extremely difficult. Just because someone doesn't want to bring a gun to the fight doesn't mean that the devs have to fix the game to meet his/her playstyle.

Well, i don't understand why they would implement the ability to unequip guns and tackle missions melee only if there is no way to complete the mission with a melee based warframe such as Loki. However i do understand that if you unequip 2 of your weapons and complete a mission all xp is rewarded to that specific weapon instead of being distributed between the three, so, my point, what if you want to fast level a unranked weapon melee weapon in a tower exterminate ?  you will wanna use loki obviously because his invisibility grants massive melee damage bonus that without would not be able to kill a void enemy, The answer to this is simply, Bring guns ? what and take so much longer to level it, because of one insignificant enemy type or make it so if you got good timing the enemy will be within melee range ? fyi stealth is a lot of players Play type. I am an endgame player with around 900 hours game time. I found it refreshing to be able to run melee only, so sue me ?  

[(PSN)ElZilcho]

Well, i don't understand why they would implement the ability to unequip guns and tackle missions melee only if there is no way to complete the mission with a melee based warframe such as Loki.

 

You can also crouch on top of your own penta grenade and instantly fail the mission. You wouldn't do that because you know it's a bad idea and will cost you a revive. You can bring radiation damage to fight the infested. You wouldn't do that either, because you know it's a bad idea because most infested have a big resistance to radiation.

 

As an "endgame player with 900 hours of game time", you should also know that a mission where you are all but sure to encounter small, flying, difficult to hit enemies is not one to go into without a ranged ability, even if you only use it on them. It's common sense.

 

The solution can be described two ways:

1) Bring guns.

2) Play smart.

 

Both of those ways are describing the same thing.

[(PSN)RED_KNUCKLEHEAD]

You can also crouch on top of your own penta grenade and instantly fail the mission. You wouldn't do that because you know it's a bad idea and will cost you a revive. You can bring radiation damage to fight the infested. You wouldn't do that either, because you know it's a bad idea because most infested have a big resistance to radiation.

 

As an "endgame player with 900 hours of game time", you should also know that a mission where you are all but sure to encounter small, flying, difficult to hit enemies is not one to go into without a ranged ability, even if you only use it on them. It's common sense.

 

The solution can be described two ways:

1) Bring guns.

2) Play smart.

 

Both of those ways are describing the same thing.

As a end game player with 900 hours invested my response to you gooe sir is, guns = Boring, been there done that bought the platinum, what about melee 2.0 new and exciting, oh wait it isn't feasible under certain circumstances, im not saying I want to kill raptor or vay hek with melee weapons, just silly little corpus healer drones with no offensive capabilities

[(PSN)RED_KNUCKLEHEAD]

Lol gooe sir, that e was brought to you by Auto correct, I mean't good btw

[(PSN)ElZilcho]

Use your head and play smart.

 

no

 

Well, I tried. I'll never understand why people refuse to use the tools they're given and then complain about things not working.

[(PSN)RED_KNUCKLEHEAD]

Lol why you faking my response to your Pryor post stating I should play smart, I never wrote no in response, I always play smart. Your childish as hell

[Shadow-Blades]

Solution: Use Ash, the actual 'King of Katanas'

 

You can use melee only and still kill drones with Shuriken or Bladestorm

Edited June 6, 2014 by Shadow-Blades

[(PSN)ElZilcho]

Lol why you faking my response to your Pryor post stating I should play smart, I never wrote no in response, I always play smart. Your childish as hell

 

It's not faking, it's summarizing. Playing smart means bringing guns to use on the enemies you can't defeat with melee attacks. You refused. I summarized it as "no" because the excuses you had for not putting on a pistol you might not even use weren't very good.

 

And I guess I always play smarter, because I'm succeeding easily where you are failing and complaining about it.

[notionphil]

Well, i don't understand why they would implement the ability to unequip guns and tackle missions melee only if there is no way to complete the mission with a melee based warframe such as Loki. However i do understand that if you unequip 2 of your weapons and complete a mission all xp is rewarded to that specific weapon instead of being distributed between the three, so, my point, what if you want to fast level a unranked weapon melee weapon in a tower exterminate ?  you will wanna use loki obviously because his invisibility grants massive melee damage bonus that without would not be able to kill a void enemy, The answer to this is simply, Bring guns ? what and take so much longer to level it, because of one insignificant enemy type or make it so if you got good timing the enemy will be within melee range ? fyi stealth is a lot of players Play type. I am an endgame player with around 900 hours game time. I found it refreshing to be able to run melee only, so sue me ?  

 

OP, DE specifically said you should be able to run entire missions melee-only. Your feedback is valid and your opinion shared by many.

 

Haters gon' hate.

[(PSN)RED_KNUCKLEHEAD]

Solution: Use Ash, the actual 'King of Katanas'

 

You can use melee only and still kill drones with Shuriken or Bladestorm

Your right, ash is viable, and I use him sometimes, however my preference is Loki, and using ash instead of Loki isn't really a solution to fix Loki's little problem. But Either way, thanks for not being condescending and giving a viable stealth suggestion. I mearly felt if the devs mearly gave loki's radial disarm ability the chance to stop those corpus support drones from flight so you can melee slam them it would be perfect, and balanced. I mean flight is they're only weapon after all so why cant he disarm them

[(PSN)RED_KNUCKLEHEAD]

^_^

Edited June 6, 2014 by (PS4)RED_KNUCKLEHEAD

[(PSN)RED_KNUCKLEHEAD]

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Edited June 6, 2014 by (PS4)RED_KNUCKLEHEAD

[(PSN)RED_KNUCKLEHEAD]

OP, DE specifically said you should be able to run entire missions melee-only. Your feedback is valid and your opinion shared by many.

 

Haters gon' hate.

Thank you, you're Right, appreciate the support, have a good weekend =)

[skinotik]

Come on ... just bring a dam sidearm !  I personnaly don't care about melee-only run.  I don't want DE to gimp the game to cater to a small group of ppl that don't want to play the game the way it was design.

[(PSN)RED_KNUCKLEHEAD]

Come on ... just bring a dam sidearm !  I personnaly don't care about melee-only run.  I don't want DE to gimp the game to cater to a small group of ppl that don't want to play the game the way it was design.

How is enabling Loki's radial disarm ability to temporarily ground support drones Gimping the game ?

[DuWryght]

Idk what people are talking about. Sword alone is super easy.

 

[(PSN)RED_KNUCKLEHEAD]

Idk what people are talking about. Sword alone is super easy.

 

Um, thats not a sword, that's a kestrel, essentially a boomerang.

[CY13ERPUNK]

+9999 OP

 

DE releases "THE SWORD ALONE" touts all-melee action and viability of doing missions with only melee

 

OP tries to do melee-only mission, realizes that current ingame melee is horribly inadequate to the task

 

OP brings up valid ingame issues regarding melee's complete lack of ability to aim up or down

 

thread lambasts OP and says "dur you should have brought a gun silly"

 

/sigh

 

srsly

 

GIVE US AIM-ABLE UP/DOWN MELEE 

 

AND MID-AIR MELEE ATTACKS (change the ground slam to HOLD melee input)

[arisaka]

I agree. Melee should be able to hit flying units if they're HOVERING IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE. Or even worse, when I play Loki and Radial Disarm Corpus drones, they fly literally in front of me at KNEE LEVEL. Seriously? I don't need a gun to hit something that's brushing against my face or my leg.