Sybaris Needs A Reload Speed Buff

[Wolfstorm18]

I have now four polarities in the Sybaris, and tried some different builds. Tried with Heavy Caliber on rank 2 and 6, both sucked. Tried maxed Metal Auger, and it got addictive, especially in some defense maps. Then tried maxed Critical Delay, and the weapon looked more solid. One thing that I discovered with the Sybaris, is that you can kill two targets not lined, just sliding the aim to any direction while the burst is shot. The two-shot burst allows for it, and a decreased rate of fire seems to made the burst slower, giving you a bit more time to slide the aim. This is something that Speed Trigger also did with the Burston, although in that case it made the burst quicker, giving less recoil. In the case of Critical Delay, you will not feel too much recoil, because its only two shots, and the Sybaris is pretty much more stable than the Burston. The sliding shot dont requires punch-through, but with it I was able to kill 6 targets with one single click in a T2 defense. So, a critical build, with punch through, is the way to go on this weapon, but then, if you use both Critical Delay and Hammershot, you will not have a proper slot for an elemental damage mod, because theres a issue with the Sybaris, an issue which is a design flaw. Is its reload time. The reload time takes forever, for its only five shots. Although this is not as game-breaking as the reload of the Vulkar is, it still made the Sybaris not so much Tenno-like as it should be, since Tenno values action and speed. With a maxed Fast Hands this can be fixed, giving it a reload time of 1.5 second, which made much more sense for this weapon, but by then you lose one slot. 

 

So the Sybaris needs a reload speed buff, from 2 second to 1.5 second reload time. This should the normal on it, and Fast Hands optional in case someone need a build which is the exactly opposite of what I described above, that is, a build focused on speed instead of criticals. A reload speed buff would allow for more flow in the use of the Sybaris. 

Edited June 9, 2014 by Wolfstorm18

[NearlyDedicated]

tl;dr pl0x. Honestly there are a lot of mods for it, it's not practical. 

[notionphil]

I have now four polarities in the Sybaris, and tried some different builds. Tried with Heavy Caliber on rank 2 and 6, both sucked. Tried maxed Metal Auger, and it got addictive, especially in some defense maps. Then tried maxed Critical Delay, and the weapon looked more solid. One thing that I discovered with the Sybaris, is that you can kill two targets not lined, just sliding the aim to any direction while the burst is shot. The two-shot burst allows for it, and a decreased rate of fire seems to made the burst slower, giving you a bit more time to slide the aim. This is something that Speed Trigger also did with the Burston, although in that case it made the burst quicker, giving less recoil. In the case of Critical Delay, you will not feel too much recoil, because its only two shots, and the Sybaris is pretty much more stable than the Burston. The sliding shot dont requires punch-through, but with it I was able to kill 6 targets with one single click in a T2 defense. So, a critical build, with punch through, is the way to go on this weapon, but then, if you use both Critical Delay and Hammershot, you will not have a proper slot for an elemental damage mod, because theres a issue with the Sybaris, an issue which is a design flaw. Is its reload time. The reload time takes forever, for its only five shots. Although this is not as game-breaking as the reload of the Vulkar is, it still made the Sybaris not so much Tenno-like as it should be, since Tenno values action and speed. With a maxed Fast Hands this can be fixed, giving it a reload time of 1.5 second, which made much more sense for this weapon, but by then you lose one slot. 

 

So the Sybaris needs a reload speed buff, from 2 second to 1.5 second reload time. This should the normal on it, and Fast Hands optional in case someone need a build which is the exactly opposite of what I described above, that is, a build focused on speed instead of criticals. A reload speed buff would allow for more flow in the use of the Sybaris. 

 

I agree with you on something. First time for everything :)

 

Sybaris is a deep and rewarding weapon. I love it's complexity but do think the reload is ever so slightly too punitive.

[-FrostByte-]

get reload mods?

[Casardis]

tl;dr pl0x. Honestly there are a lot of mods for it, it's not practical. 

 

When someone tries to be thorough with their suggestions, it would be appreciated from the community to at least give a few minutes to read what their point is, if it interested them to begin with. Unless the suggestion can really be digested into a TL;DR, I don't think it's too fair for the TC.

 

@TC: Breaking up your arguments/suggestions would help in terms of reading though. If you could that, I'd really appreciate it. Most of your first paragraph only tries to say that the Sybaris is a solid weapon. If you could at least separate that paragraph from the part where you mention its weakpoint (reload speed), it may be better to get directly into your suggestion.

 

I do think a slight reload time buff won't hurt it though. Not sure about the numbers you requested yet since I don't have the mind to think too much right now. But if such a buff happens, I will request a massive reload time buff for Tigris  >:(

Edited June 9, 2014 by Casardis

[Paradoxbomb]

Remember when people were complaining about how the Tigris and Vulkar needed a better reload speed? And how DE completely disregarded that feedback and just buffed it's damage?

 

Exactly.

 

You have my support, although small changes like these that could greatly improve weapon performance seem to elude the Devs (just adding more damage doesn't solve everything guys).

[notionphil]

 

I do think a slight reload time buff won't hurt it though. Not sure about the numbers you requested yet since I don't have the mind to think too much right now. But if such a buff happens, I will request a massive reload time buff for Tigris  >:(

 

Tigris needs a MASSIVE reload time buff. What happened there lol?

[Casardis]

Tigris needs a MASSIVE reload time buff. What happened there lol?

 

It's been put into the shelves because probably most of DE don't like the weapon in the first place. /half-joke.

 

It had so much potential, but instead it tried to achieve what other shotguns did already, but worse.

Edited June 9, 2014 by Casardis

[Blast_Hardcheese]

Fix the reload times in the older weapons that need it first. I'm looking at you, Vulkar.

[sedy25]

I have now four polarities in the Sybaris, and tried some different builds. Tried with Heavy Caliber on rank 2 and 6, both sucked. Tried maxed Metal Auger, and it got addictive, especially in some defense maps. Then tried maxed Critical Delay, and the weapon looked more solid. One thing that I discovered with the Sybaris, is that you can kill two targets not lined, just sliding the aim to any direction while the burst is shot. The two-shot burst allows for it, and a decreased rate of fire seems to made the burst slower, giving you a bit more time to slide the aim. This is something that Speed Trigger also did with the Burston, although in that case it made the burst quicker, giving less recoil. In the case of Critical Delay, you will not feel too much recoil, because its only two shots, and the Sybaris is pretty much more stable than the Burston. The sliding shot dont requires punch-through, but with it I was able to kill 6 targets with one single click in a T2 defense. So, a critical build, with punch through, is the way to go on this weapon, but then, if you use both Critical Delay and Hammershot, you will not have a proper slot for an elemental damage mod, because theres a issue with the Sybaris, an issue which is a design flaw. Is its reload time. The reload time takes forever, for its only five shots. Although this is not as game-breaking as the reload of the Vulkar is, it still made the Sybaris not so much Tenno-like as it should be, since Tenno values action and speed. With a maxed Fast Hands this can be fixed, giving it a reload time of 1.5 second, which made much more sense for this weapon, but by then you lose one slot. 

 

So the Sybaris needs a reload speed buff, from 2 second to 1.5 second reload time. This should the normal on it, and Fast Hands optional in case someone need a build which is the exactly opposite of what I described above, that is, a build focused on speed instead of criticals. A reload speed buff would allow for more flow in the use of the Sybaris. 

Ermm... I can't even read this, hurting my eyes just looking at it.

[Eidolon_Slayer]

It's not fast enough even with reload mods. Maybe buff the reload speed, or add new reload mods.

[Vaskadar]

It's not fast enough even with reload mods. Maybe buff the reload speed, or add new reload mods.

 

Or instead of diluting the drop pool by adding moar mods, why not just buff the reload mods that we have already?

[Eidolon_Slayer]

Or instead of diluting the drop pool by adding moar mods, why not just buff the reload mods that we have already?

I'd like to use the mod on other weapons, like the snipetron.

[Vaskadar]

I'd like to use the mod on other weapons, like the snipetron.

 

You can use that same reload mods on the snipetron.

[Eidolon_Slayer]

You can use that same reload mods on the snipetron.

I meant, they release a new mod, so every other weapon can benefit from the reload speed. Stacking with the current reload mod.

[Vaskadar]

I meant, they release a new mod, so every other weapon can benefit from the reload speed. Stacking with the current reload mod.

 

They really shouldn't. There are enough mods as is, in the drop pool, and it still doesn't address the fact that +30% reload speed is still anemic in the grand scheme of things.

[Eidolon_Slayer]

They really shouldn't. There are enough mods as is, in the drop pool, and it still doesn't address the fact that +30% reload speed is still anemic in the grand scheme of things.

There's never enough mods. We have the basic, and some advanced ones. 

[Vargras]

I'm more interested in why you're even using Critical Delay or Metal Auger on the Sybaris? Critical Delay isn't that great of a mod on it, and Shred would be better than Metal Auger.