Time Wasted. Lets Change Polarities Without Forma

[(PSN)Keiji_Haku]

Soo new nova nerf? Its cool, pretty awesome new mechanic and explosions are nicer now, however 2 screw ups plus getting it right 3 times. Yeah thats the forma i put into my nova, after the last forma i was glad to be done because you know i have so much other crap to forma and so many primaries i havent even touched yet.... nope now i gotta forma her twice because her build is obsolete with this change. I would have been fine with one but twice? holy crap this is ridiculous. I know nova levels fast but i don't have all the time in the world to be constantly leveling her up, and seriously i wanted to be done with her anyways but nooooo. DE you don't need to give me my forma back but how about you let us change up the polarities of an already formad slot. something like this

 

I forma a slot with a V polarity, i go to unranked, once i level back up im free to change it one more time (the same slot) without going to unranked after that i can no longer change it and i need another a forma to do anything. This fits nicely with your constant changing of warframes

[-FrostByte-]

times change young tenno

 

the game is still in beta

 

go do some research as to what beta is

Edited June 11, 2014 by n0lyfe

[(PSN)Keiji_Haku]

times change young tenno

 

the game is still in beta

 

go do some research as to what beta is

That means nothing, seriously dont give me that beta crap. i know they change stuff constantly but some of us don't have the time to deal with the changes ie nova now needs more forma

[se05239]

"Beta" is not a valid excuse anymore. Warframe is a full fledged game.

[Grimfrost]

Still.. it is a beta

Its only your "unfair-tears" flooding. Get a grip

[dragonboss]

times change young tenno

 

the game is still in beta

 

go do some research as to what beta is

Please stop waving the BETA banner.

 

"Beta" is not a valid excuse anymore. Warframe is a full fledged game.

Basically this.

 

DE tends to go the following route with content: new tiles, cosmetics, cosmetics, cosmetics, new warframe and tile, repeat. With the warframes, it's like they dont test whether something is OP or not before they release it, then they wait so long to adjust it, some players think it is how it should be, then when it is changed, people complain because they forma'd to specialise in the direction of whatever is OP.

 

Which brings me to the fact that the mod system is very flawed. With a lot of things that should just be default, or something that upgrades with your level all being mods.

 

We need the tree system back or a hybrid tree/mod system. Look at borderlands upgrade system for inspiration of you have to, 'cause imho, they did it well.

[Kutsuu]

Although it sounds annoying when you have say used like 3-5 Formas on a Warframe or Weapon then a patch changes it and now you need to Forma and relevel it again but thats just how the game works and Formas are easy enough to get and its free to play so you got all time in the world so I don't see the problem.

 

*Waves the Beta Banner*

Edited June 11, 2014 by Kutsuu

[(PSN)Keiji_Haku]

Still.. it is a beta

Its only your "unfair-tears" flooding. Get a grip

Oh just shut up already. If youre not gonna bring anythng constructive get out. I offered a viable solution and you cry beta. Get off your high horse

[(PSN)Keiji_Haku]

Although it sounds annoying when you have say used like 3-5 Formas on a Warframe or Weapon then a patch changes it and now you need to Forma and relevel it again but thats just how the game works and Formas are easy enough to get and its free to play so you got all time in the world so I don't see the problem.

 

*Waves the Beta Banner*

Yeah thats why i have 4 bps left. 20 void missions over 30 odds in the last month. 1 bp.

[(PSN)Keiji_Haku]

Oh check this and leave feed back

https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/239917-new-frame-brought-from-another/#entry2781810

lol yea, after seeing aklato prime on the rhino in that xbox trailer, today is going to be an interesting day *gets popcorn*

ever wonder why this thread hasnt been locked yet?, i sure do

Please stop waving the BETA banner. Basically this. DE tends to go the following route with content: new tiles, cosmetics, cosmetics, cosmetics, new warframe and tile, repeat. With the warframes, it's like they dont test whether something is OP or not before they release it, then they wait so long to adjust it, some players think it is how it should be, then when it is changed, people complain because they forma'd to specialise in the direction of whatever is OP. Which brings me to the fact that the mod system is very flawed. With a lot of things that should just be default, or something that upgrades with your level all being mods. We need the tree system back or a hybrid tree/mod system. Look at borderlands upgrade system for inspiration of you have to, 'cause imho, they did it well.

You guys had a tree once?

Not sure how some of those quotez got in but on my phone. Kinda hard to remove them

Edited June 11, 2014 by (PS4)Keiji_Haku

[Kutsuu]

Yeah thats why i have 4 bps left. 20 void missions over 30 odds in the last month. 1 bp.

 

Sometimes luck just isn't with you, I'v had 0 Formas and BPs before for afew weeks yet my friend kept getting more then soon after I got 1 then another and another and now I got lots and don't know what to do with them all.

[HoakinBlackforge]

Nova was OP. Deal with it.

[Grimfrost]

You guys had a tree once?

Not sure how some of those quotez got in but on my phone. Kinda hard to remove them

Mabey your phone is beta? ;)

[elijahpw]

"Beta" doesn't mean beta these day for a lot games (Wtf is "technical alpha" for HotS). Its bs term right now.

 

I consider Warframe "beta" a full fledged release for the most part due to real money store attached.

 

However, the term "beta" here is a warning sign that anything can change. Its a risk investment in time (or/and money). This stuff effect us all, if it make you feel better.

[(PSN)Keiji_Haku]

Sometimes luck just isn't with you, I'v had 0 Formas and BPs before for afew weeks yet my friend kept getting more then soon after I got 1 then another and another and now I got lots and don't know what to do with them all.

Ill say this once players fuel changes not de. Viable options here people.

[dragonboss]

You guys had a tree once?

Not sure how some of those quotez got in but on my phone. Kinda hard to remove them

Back in the pre-U7 days when all warframes were the gods of men sent to slaughter the sheep, yes. The Tree was unbalanced and we were way too OP most of the time, but they should have not just scrapped it. It could have been improved upon instead of being replaced with another system that is flawed, despite the longer period taken to expose the said flaws.

[(PSN)OneShotWook]

I enjoy forma and releveling and lets face it Nova is the easiest of the bunch to level up.If you want forma goto t2 survival and if you've not got one after 5 minutes then restart,if you do get one after 5 minutes then you'll probably have another at 30 or 35.

[Ribboz]

https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/233102-interchangeable-polarities

 

I still feel that this would help a lot of us.

[(PSN)KinslayersDawn]

Ill say this once players fuel changes not de. Viable options here people.

Okay, here is the thing: it isn't your game. It isn't my game. It is DE's game. The developer is going to make the game they mean to make. I think we are all a little spoiled by all the feedback DE listens to. As long as they keep their word on what they are going to do (which I have comments concerning that elsewhere), we have to realize we are playing an unfinished game, and things are going to change.

[VentiGlondi]

When forma was introduced, I was surprised that changing polarities resets the item's rank.

 

When adding a polarity, it makes sense. I use forma, I sacrifice time, I get a new polarity in my weapon.

But when I'm changing polarity, not only am I using forma and time - the thing also needs to have a polarity to begin with.

 

Basically I'm using forma, I'm trading a polarity for another polarity and I still have to use my time to level the item back to 30. Why?

[Ribboz]

When forma was introduced, I was surprised that changing polarities resets the item's rank.

 

When adding a polarity, it makes sense. I use forma, I sacrifice time, I get a new polarity in my weapon.

But when I'm changing polarity, not only am I using forma and time - the thing also needs to have a polarity to begin with.

 

Basically I'm using forma, I'm trading a polarity for another polarity and I still have to use my time to level the item back to 30. Why?

This is a good point. Would be nice if you didn't have to relevel when repolarizing a polarity.

[Phatose]

I'm not really sure I see an issue here.

 

Either your intention is to use a frame or weapon, or it's not.  If you're not intending to actually use it, then you really have no reason to Forma anyway.  If you do...then the punishment of having to use it doesn't really seem like a big deal. 

[Hexagoros]

times change young tenno

 

the game is still in beta

 

go do some research as to what beta is

 

Beta my forma'd Attica.

 

This game is over a year old, with a veteran player base, fleshed out cash shop, and is one of the top played games around..  This 'beta' is a game.  Just because its receiving new content on a regular basis -- like any MMO -- does not make it a beta.

[blackstraykitten]

i do believe there should be compensation upon changes
everyone calls this a "nerf"
knowing its a nerf/balance/not-a-buff it should go with compensation like how they did with the Steel Charge
this should also apply with trinity  but not ash(inb4 "ash was changed too")

[MeduSalem]

It's true... Beta is an obsolete excuse as of today because if the "Open Beta" continues at this pace the game will never leave the Beta. They should have already left the Beta with introduction of Damage 2.0 or Melee 2.0, or on the one-year-celebration of Open Beta.

 

Just call it a rolling-release with constant improvement of existing content as well as addition in functionality. The steady release cycle is much in favor of this. Many Linux distributions work the same way, as well as other Software.

 

 

 

As far as the damn Forma go OP is at least somewhat right. I stopped forma'ing because I see nothing but timesink and cashgrab behind this system. With every major update or event DE releases some changes or new mods which pretty much make existing builds obsolete. Thereby rendering your forma'd gear in a bad state so you have to do it all over again and waste more time and resources to keep your favorite items/warframes up-to-date. I don't want to say DE is doing it on purpose because there's no evidence, but sometimes it sure feels like it.

 

In my opinion NO weapons should require more than 8 forma's to unlock every slot with a polarity. (9 for Melee, 11 for Warframes). After you've polarized the slots you should not only be able to swap places but also the polarities itself without the need of any further forma. And they should have done that already when they introduced polarity swapping, not doing that was a mistake by DE in my eyes.

 

It's timesink. There's no valid argument as to why we have to forma a weapon more than there are slots. It doesn't add any fun to the game rather than frustration and waste of time.

Edited June 11, 2014 by MeduSalem